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            <title>Re: Eruption in Iceland???</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,15,161751,161895#msg-161895</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Keep us updated, then! :) May be I should order a flex ticket for Iceland, reay to use whenever an eruption takes place. Or hope Vulcanus keeps calm until our annual Iceland trip next summer (third in a row).]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Karsten Eig</dc:creator>
            <category>Rockhounds</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Your Favourite Field Collected Minerals</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,160281,161894#msg-161894</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Sigurd Stordal Wrote:<br />
-------------------------------------------------------<br />
&gt; Karsten Eig Wrote:<br />
&gt; --------------------------------------------------<br />
&gt; -----<br />
&gt; &gt; Sigurd Stordal Wrote:<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
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&gt; <br />
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&gt; &gt; <br />
&gt; &gt; &gt; rare: group of stetindite-Y xls.<br />
&gt; &gt; What about that chemchuznikovite(?) you found<br />
&gt; at<br />
&gt; &gt; the roadwork at Konnerud? <br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Zussmanite, and yes it has to be up there on the<br />
&gt; top, the first to my knowledge find of zussmanite<br />
&gt; in a hydrothermal setting.<br />
<br />
Hm - how did I mix up the mineral names? Perhaps just the scientist's love for long mineral names? And I'm not even a systematics colllector!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Karsten Eig</dc:creator>
            <category>Scrapbook</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: IMA 2008-047 = nyholmite</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,14,160851,161893#msg-161893</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Kevin,<br />
any idea when the Archives will be back up?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jim Ferraiolo</dc:creator>
            <category>IMA Status</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Paleo Databases?</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,161860,161892#msg-161892</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ For purly taxonomic information i use the paleobiology database.  not complete, but getting more so every day.  Maintained and updated by paleontologists worldwide.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Karl Volkman</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,66,137366,161891#msg-161891</guid>
            <title>Re: Albite</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,66,137366,161891#msg-161891</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ 1) In this part of the text &quot;All of the specimens pictured here were labeled albite, but I doubt if they had all been tested for potassium as the dominant metallic atom in their structure and if you want to point out to me in a condescending manner that one of them is really oligoclase I will grill you about how you know for sure and, if you have a good reason, I will make the correction.&quot; I suppose POTASSIUM is to be replaced by SODIUM?<br />
<br />
2) I'll try to write some additions for the article. Albite is not my primary intrest, but I have a (rather complete) &quot;subcollection&quot; of feldspars.<br />
<br />
3) And talking of albite and oligoclase, is this entry about albite sensu stricto (Na between 100 and 90%) or about albite sensu largo (the half of the plagioclase series between 100 and 50% Na)? May be, there can come an entry about the plagioclases in general, where the occasional good finds of lesser known plagioclases are treated, like peristerite or the gemmy bytownite from Mexico? And beside that, this entry about albite ss and one about the other famous plagioclase labradorite?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Erik Vercammen</dc:creator>
            <category>Best Minerals A</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Collecting LA</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,5,161875,161890#msg-161890</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ There are several active collecting clubs and groups. Try joining the Yahoo group called LA-Rocks. Also check the web sites of the many Los Angeles area clubs.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Steve Hardinger</dc:creator>
            <category>Collecting</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Your Favourite Field Collected Minerals</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,160281,161888#msg-161888</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Second after the Habach Emeralds comes the find of a pocket full of nice Fluorite specimens in Wellin, Belgium, in 2006.<br />
About twenty good specimens came out :-)<br />
<br />
<center class="bbcode"><table border ><tr><td colspan=2><a href="photo-83603.html" target="_blank"><img src="/photos/0862603001254071720.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" width="600" /></a></td></tr><tr><td align="left"><a href="photo-83603.html" target="_blank">Fluorite on Calcite, Wellin, Belgium</a></td><td align="right">&copy; Harjo</td></tr></table></center><br />
<br />
<br />
<center class="bbcode"><table border ><tr><td colspan=2><a href="photo-148032.html" target="_blank"><img src="/photos/0286720001254071656.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" width="600" /></a></td></tr><tr><td align="left"><a href="photo-148032.html" target="_blank">Fluorite on Calcite, 6cm wide, Wellin, Belgium</a></td><td align="right">&copy; Harjo</td></tr></table></center>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Harjo Neutkens</dc:creator>
            <category>Scrapbook</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Cornwall trip results</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161887#msg-161887</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hello,<br />
<br />
The still unidentified one is arsenopyrite (or löllingite, which cannot be distinguished from arsenopyrite from a photo), I know arsenopyrite from the tin mines of Saxony very well. Looks exactly the same. <br />
<br />
Regards,<br />
Sebastian Möller]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sebastian Möller</dc:creator>
            <category>Scrapbook</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Adamite and X from ?</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,161671,161886#msg-161886</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Ron,<br />
<br />
Yes - I was starting to think ilmenite ... Does it occur in this type of matrix?<br />
<br />
Here is another photo. I may have gone too far in trying to capture the metallic luster (some highlights are blown) but maybe it makes the point. The &quot;in person&quot; luster actually has a bit more of a bluesh tinge - maybe my color balance isn't set quite right. I added a teeny bit of blue using Photoshop but I didn't want to go overboard.<br />
<br />
Anyway - I'm happy that this isn't proving totally obvious. Makes me feel less of a dunce!<br />
<br />
Modris]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Modris Baum</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,102,147458,161883#msg-161883</guid>
            <title>Re: Launching very soon!</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,102,147458,161883#msg-161883</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Any news with auction project?<br />
<br />
Tom]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tomasz Praszkier</dc:creator>
            <category>Mindat Auctions</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Collecting LA</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,5,161875,161882#msg-161882</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Los Angeles California]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Cameron Schiffer</dc:creator>
            <category>Collecting</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Fake (irradiated) dark fluorites from &quot;Bikov, Siberia&quot;</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,55,161514,161881#msg-161881</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Attached is a photo of a fluorite from the &quot;Bikow Mine, Siberia.&quot; The largest crystal is 2.5 cm on edge, and the matrix appears to be largely fine grained fluorite of an earlier generation. I acquired the specimen from an American dealer at Munich in 2002. He had purchased it from a dealer from Budapest at the same show. Afterward, I made inquiries with several Russian collectors and mineralogists that I know and no one had ever heard of this locality, thus I concluded that it was likely irradiated Chinese material. It is attractive, however.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jesse Fisher</dc:creator>
            <category>Fakes, Frauds and Marketing Ploys</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Collecting LA</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,5,161875,161880#msg-161880</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ LA = Los Angeles of Louisiana or Lost Anonymous or what?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Steve Hardinger</dc:creator>
            <category>Collecting</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Adamite and X from ?</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,161671,161879#msg-161879</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Modris,<br />
<br />
Maybe Knut will see the thread, I'm sure he knows the location well.<br />
<br />
Also, another possiblity might be Ilmenite?<br />
<br />
Ron]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Ronald John Gyllenhammer</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Autunite</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,60,161863,161878#msg-161878</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Autunite's a pain because it's so flaky - little bits fall off really easily.  If you want to be extra careful about powder/flakes, put the specimen in a cabinet or plastic box (protects the specimen from dust too, so probably a good idea anyways).  Since autunite's fluorescent, a UV lamp might help with the cleanup of little flakes.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>NH</dc:creator>
            <category>Micromounting</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Adamite and X from ?</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,161671,161877#msg-161877</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi All,<br />
<br />
Thanks for the additional suggestions. <br />
<br />
I think the luster on my photo is misleading. It is actually &quot;metallic&quot; - much like some galena (but NOT silver bright). So I don't think it's almandine. And the stuff is really, really dark gray/black where broken. I know melanite can be really dark as well but it just doesn't look like a garnet to me. And supposedly almandine streak is white ...<br />
<br />
The euxenite-(Y) is an intriguing possibility. I've always been attracted to unusual minerals. But you'd think I would remember something like that. Plus, judging by the photos on Mindat, this would be quite a specimen for that mineral.<br />
<br />
I don't have much experience with rutile (other than micros) so I can't tell if the &quot;in person&quot; appearance is reasonable.  Maybe I'll try another photo to see if I can get the luster to be more realistic. <br />
<br />
Right now I'm still leaning towards hematite (despite the hardness test failure). A couple of Mindat photos from Dypingdal, Norway show a matrix (hydrotalcite, lizardite) which looks similar (but I don't think I have lizardite).<br />
<br />
Thanks to all - at least I have some leads to follow up on.<br />
<br />
Modris]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Modris Baum</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Alluvial Topaz valuation help please.</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,59,161393,161876#msg-161876</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I tend to think that pieces like this will go more so to the metaphysical crowd.<br />
<br />
They tend to care less about where something is from, or whether it is a bit cloudy.<br />
<br />
It seems like a rather large chunk (I wish I could have seen the whole crystal before it went down the river) and nice clarity (Not for faceted gems though.)<br />
<br />
I would think at the least about 40 GBP to about 70 GBP.<br />
<br />
Greetings.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Bri Dragonne</dc:creator>
            <category>Money Grubbers</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,5,161875,161875#msg-161875</guid>
            <title>Collecting LA</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,5,161875,161875#msg-161875</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Are there any mineral and gem collecting place near LA or in LA?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Cameron Schiffer</dc:creator>
            <category>Collecting</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,55,161514,161874#msg-161874</guid>
            <title>Re: Fake (irradiated) dark fluorites from &quot;Bikov, Siberia&quot;</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,55,161514,161874#msg-161874</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks Peter, great info.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Adam Kelly</dc:creator>
            <category>Fakes, Frauds and Marketing Ploys</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,161790,161873#msg-161873</guid>
            <title>Re: Geiger Counter vs. Geiger Counter</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,161790,161873#msg-161873</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Any instrument of this nature should be calibrated against a set of known standards for the area the sample is from. Factory calibrations are only a rough guide.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Alex Homenuke</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,59,161393,161872#msg-161872</guid>
            <title>Re: Alluvial Topaz valuation help please.</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,59,161393,161872#msg-161872</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ It is most likely from Brazil]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Peter Lyckberg</dc:creator>
            <category>Money Grubbers</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,161672,161871#msg-161871</guid>
            <title>Re: I Can't figure out what these crystals are HELP!</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,161672,161871#msg-161871</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thank you I had a lot of trouble finding out what that was and what I thought it was seemed to be wrong.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Cameron Schiffer</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161870#msg-161870</guid>
            <title>Re: Cornwall trip results</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161870#msg-161870</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Peter thank you for the id on Hematite, here are some more pics of the still un-identified mineral, the silvery coloured bits are freshly broken and have a dark grey streak. I hope these other pics help, pic 2 also shows Chalcopyrite.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Timothy Jackson</dc:creator>
            <category>Scrapbook</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,60,161863,161868#msg-161868</guid>
            <title>Re: Autunite</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,60,161863,161868#msg-161868</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Bob....just don't eat or breath powder from your radioactives and you'll be fine.....mount it, wash your hands and admire it!!<br />
<br />
Don S.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Don Saathoff</dc:creator>
            <category>Micromounting</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,161697,161867#msg-161867</guid>
            <title>Re: Unknown Minerals from Sterling Hill</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,161697,161867#msg-161867</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ A good cheap possibility, indeed! But I live in Germany and the import may be difficult (I had some troubel with a few minerals and an objective for photography I bought in the USA). Customs clearance is sometimes very complicated.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Marko Burkhardt</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161866#msg-161866</guid>
            <title>Re: Cornwall trip results</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161866#msg-161866</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ These next few pics were taken between the arsenic calciners and the cliff. The first pic is of an unfortunate looking sign warning of subsidence could not be more true, the ground was very loose and there had been a few little slips here and there needless to say I did not stay there for long as the next time you stop falling was at the bottom of the cliff, but I saw a few artifacts lying amongst a pile of slag so I decided to (quickly) take some pics, anyone guess what they are?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Timothy Jackson</dc:creator>
            <category>Scrapbook</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161865#msg-161865</guid>
            <title>Re: Cornwall trip results</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161865#msg-161865</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I dont have any pics of Cligga or Wheal Cock, too busy finding things but I have some pics of Levant which is in a stones throw of Geevor tin mine I did not find much here at all apart from loads of slag and copper stained rock. In the first pic note the large ammount of copper staining on the cliffs below the mine. The second pic shows part of the arsenic calciners and the third shows one of the capped shafts.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Timothy Jackson</dc:creator>
            <category>Scrapbook</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161864#msg-161864</guid>
            <title>Re: Cornwall trip results</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,17,161817,161864#msg-161864</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Not all Americans use buckets. I have an old and probably too large backpack which I use. I say too large as it will allow me to load more than I should carry. But I would rather have 70 lbs of rocks on my back than in a bucket.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jim Hall</dc:creator>
            <category>Scrapbook</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,60,161863,161863#msg-161863</guid>
            <title>Autunite</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,60,161863,161863#msg-161863</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi everybody i need some help here  i was breaking small pieces of autunite into micros i did not no that they are radoactive what should i do in this case ?Should i dispose of them i never had radoactive minerals befor please help bob.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>ROBERT A SANTEE</dc:creator>
            <category>Micromounting</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,15,161751,161861#msg-161861</guid>
            <title>Re: Eruption in Iceland???</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,15,161751,161861#msg-161861</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Rock, I only know the basics about the geothermal wells they have up here. I think it took seven years to build the big one up north. It was slowed down due to the eruption of Krafla over a number of years. The newest one, the one that caused the geothermal changes at the fumaroles, was built in under two years. I think. Then we have the main power and water source for this part of Iceland which happens to be at &quot;The Blue Lagoon&quot;. And this thing was built right across the street from the last fissure to erupt on this side of the country. Whitch erupted around 1226. <br />
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I know they drill straight down, around 1700m for the good steam. Then in the same hole they pull up cold water at a shallower level. The steam moves straight to the turbines. The cold water is filtered and then split in two streams, on stream moves right out as your cold water, the other is heated from the steam that passed through the turbines. Its to my knowledge that in some case they push the water back into the ground, but at the new plant they let it flow out to sea. Unfortunatly, for those tree huggers, that killed a large area of shore line, with water almost at boiling.<br />
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The steam is rather clean, to my knowledge. It is full of silicates, you can see this coating alot of old steam pipes. And in the capital of Reykjavik their water has a strong sulphur smell.  In 1977 Iceland was the first country to successfuly create a volcanic eruption, when while drilling, they hit a magma pocket, and a few thousand pounds was released. They have better bits today. <br />
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            <dc:creator>Jamison K Turnbull</dc:creator>
            <category>Rockhounds</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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