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        <description> Hiya

Found this again in Oulujoki riverbed under the ice, was digging ice! Finland.  It absolutly stinks of Arsenic! The black stuff on top cannot be marked with a penknife only a pegmatite leaves a scratch and there is a streak of grey/black to it.  The rest of the rock leaves a streak of black also and is much softer - easy to scratch with penknife!  I have not as yet tried to hit it to see if garlic is realesed.  It is also heavy.  Some of the black stuff had different colours in it as well.  I left it in the sun to see if it would go sticky but it was rock solid as it were.

Any ideas???

Many thanks once again.

Claire</description>
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            <title>Re: Please ID - Havent the fainest idea! Am baffled!!!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hiya Heath<br />
<br />
Many thanks... when I first glanced at it, I thought similar but then a closer inspection showed the black stuff with almost irredence in it and the smell of arsenic was a wee bit overpowering! So that kinda put a halt on my sea theory.  I have since found out there is some sort of factory up river..... dont know if that has anything to do with it, but I have since also found other bits similar in the river bed as well...<br />
<br />
By the way, I went to the Geological museum to try and find out about your rocks... I spent most of the day there (easiily done - rocks :)  ) but could not really find anything that looked similar apart from mica and graphite!  I know of graphite mine in Derbyshire/Pennines..... but......????<br />
<br />
Will try again when I have time.... <br />
<br />
Claire]]></description>
            <dc:creator>claire Brimson</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 17:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Please ID - Havent the fainest idea! Am baffled!!!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Claire the first three pics seem to show what could be fossil sea life ie coral or crynoid stems?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Heath Barnes</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 21:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Please ID - Havent the fainest idea! Am baffled!!!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Very many thanks to you guys :-)<br />
<br />
I put it on the railroad here as it just stank and was unsafe in smell (arsenic), so now the railroad smells :-D<br />
<br />
Thank you very much for your help with this one and with all my queryries on rocks.  I learn from you all.<br />
<br />
Kiitos<br />
<br />
Claire]]></description>
            <dc:creator>claire Brimson</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ There is a lot of the same looking material in the Magdalena Mountains of central New Mexico USA from the weathering of iron sulphide rocks near the Graphic and Nitt mines; this material is gossan, just as I suspect yours is as well Claire. The arsenic/sulphide odour you describe is a common indicator of the breakdown of sulphide minerals. The Nitt mine I mentioned earlier has a very pronounced sulphur odour associated with it; you can &quot;smell&quot; the mine long before you see it through the forest.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Paul Brandes</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Please ID - Havent the fainest idea! Am baffled!!!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Looks like classic gossan material to me - formed after breakdown/leaching of primary sulphide minerals, so if there was any arsenides in that mix the arsenic smell is not surprising.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jolyon &amp; Katya Ralph</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Clair the last pic seems to show a tar like material? and in the second last can i see vecicals?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Heath Barnes</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Please ID - Havent the fainest idea! Am baffled!!!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hei Pekka<br />
<br />
No, it wasnt that, But.... I do have some of that as well! <br />
<br />
Very many thanks for turning up here - tis great to have Finnish guy on here as wel who is local l :-)<br />
<br />
Claire]]></description>
            <dc:creator>claire Brimson</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Please ID - Havent the fainest idea! Am baffled!!!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Claire,<br />
do you think it could be Arsenopyrite or Löllingite?<br />
try to clean the surface (brush or knife) somewhere. <br />
see this small piece of löllingite from kaatiala after som cleaning<br />
regards PekkaR]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pekka Ruoho</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Please ID - Havent the fainest idea! Am baffled!!!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Sam<br />
<br />
Many thanks also.  Which sort of tests should I try please?  <br />
<br />
Claire]]></description>
            <dc:creator>claire Brimson</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Looks like you have some greenish blue minerals.  Those could be the common malachite/chryscola combos.  The brown could just be sandstone, and the creamy colored mineral barite.  This specimen reminds me of material I found in an old barite locality.  Just a hunch.  You should perform some basic tests to narrow it down.  Good luck.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sam Cordero, Jr.</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks Jose, for your help.  I am as baffled as you probably are as well. <br />
<br />
Kiitos<br />
<br />
Claire]]></description>
            <dc:creator>claire Brimson</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Sorry Claire, I have not more ideas, to me, could be a silex nodule, do not looks as crystalized. Also could be something syntetic.<br />
Anyway, if it smells like arsenic, you must take care with it!<br />
Greetings.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jose Zendrera</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Jose - I have attached another photo - does this help?  Why does it smell Arsenicy?<br />
<br />
Many thanks<br />
<br />
Claire]]></description>
            <dc:creator>claire Brimson</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I can not see any crystalized form on the black / hard part but rounded shapes.<br />
Just a guess: Perhaps a silex nodule in calcareous rock?<br />
Greetings.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jose Zendrera</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hiya<br />
<br />
Found this again in Oulujoki riverbed under the ice, was digging ice! Finland.  It absolutly stinks of Arsenic! The black stuff on top cannot be marked with a penknife only a pegmatite leaves a scratch and there is a streak of grey/black to it.  The rest of the rock leaves a streak of black also and is much softer - easy to scratch with penknife!  I have not as yet tried to hit it to see if garlic is realesed.  It is also heavy.  Some of the black stuff had different colours in it as well.  I left it in the sun to see if it would go sticky but it was rock solid as it were.<br />
<br />
Any ideas???<br />
<br />
Many thanks once again.<br />
<br />
Claire]]></description>
            <dc:creator>claire Brimson</dc:creator>
            <category>Identity Help</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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