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        <description> I uploaded a photo that was approved (thank you admins)

Tanzanite&amp;copy; 


This image has a bunch of child photos of minerals you can only see close up. For example, one is fluorite
Fluorite on tanzanite&amp;copy; 



and
Fluorite on stilbite&amp;copy; 


But when I go to the Merelani page and look at fluorite or stilbite, it shows no pictures. Yet when I look through the tanzanite photos I find the piece shown above. Also, when I flip through the tanzanite photos, I do see the latter 2 photos above. Is there some rule about uploading child photos and how one can navigate to them that I was not aware of?

Thanks for any help you can provide
Bob</description>
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            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259215#msg-259215</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the explanations and sorry it took so long for me to understand. I appreciate your patience.<br />
<br />
Bob]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jessica and Robert  Simonoff</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259214#msg-259214</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259214#msg-259214</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Bob, I think those that have had complaints on them where exact duplicates of a specimen photo in the same gallery by the same uploader, I presume duplicate uploads at different dates. What you are doing is placing 2 other minerals into there respective galleries that might not get noticed just as child photo's so by adding them making them parent photo's will help in educating &amp; cross referencing the database. <br />
<br />
I believe this is the exception ;-)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Debbie Woolf</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259204#msg-259204</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259204#msg-259204</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ If you followed Debbie's suggestion &quot;You could cross-ref the photo's in the description, linking them.&quot; and had different minerals listed first, it would be apparent what you were trying to do.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>David Von Bargen</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259200#msg-259200</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259200#msg-259200</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Right Paul, that was my understanding as well, though David's response puzzled me (how would all the admins know who is thinking if the situation is exceptional or not). So Paul, you would NOT recommend uploading separately the same image as a child of the first AND as a parent (2 identical photos just different positions in the tree), right? In otherwords:<br />
<br />
The following structure does NOT yield a photo for fluorite and a separate photo for stilbite on the locality page, it only yields a tanzanite photo<br />
   Photo 1- Tanzanite<br />
      +--- Photo 2- Fluorite<br />
      +--- Photo 3- Stilbite<br />
      +--- Photo 4 - Chabazite<br />
<br />
<br />
The following might (will?) be flagged as duplicate photos and depending on the admin may or may not get fixed:<br />
   Photo 1 - Tanzanite<br />
      +--- Photo 2 - Fluorite<br />
      +--- Photo 3 - Stilbite<br />
      +--- Photo 4 - Chabazite<br />
   Photo 2 (dup) - Fluorite<br />
   Photo 3 (dup) - Stilbite<br />
<br />
<br />
The following would accomplish the goal of being able to see that there is a fluorite and stilbite photo available from Merelani and would avoid complications of duplicate photo flagging, but would lose the connection that these are all the same piece:<br />
<br />
   Photo 1 - Tanzanite<br />
   Photo 2 - Fluorite<br />
   Photo 3 - Stilbite<br />
   Photo 4 - Chabazite<br />
<br />
Do I have it right now?<br />
<br />
Bob]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jessica and Robert  Simonoff</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259197#msg-259197</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259197#msg-259197</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Bob and all,<br />
<br />
The duplicate photo's are these where the picture of the specimen is the same or nearly the same. It makes no sense to show 2 or 3 times the same specimen in the same position. <br />
If you have a specimen with 5 different minerals on it, and you photograph each mineral separately, it can be uploaded as parent photo's, like Debbie said. Nobody will fall over that, because the minerals are NOT the same in each picture.<br />
<br />
I hope this helps.<br />
<br />
Take care and best regards.<br />
<br />
Paul.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Paul De Bondt</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259194#msg-259194</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259194#msg-259194</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ There are exceptions to every rule.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>David Von Bargen</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259192#msg-259192</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259192#msg-259192</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ This is the thread I am referring to (and there are a number of other similar threads) where duplicate photos are reported as issues and fixed.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,7,231209,258148#msg-258148" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >Duplicate Photo Complaints</a><br />
<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
Bob]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jessica and Robert  Simonoff</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259190#msg-259190</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259190#msg-259190</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I am not aware that there is a problem with duplicate photo's, I have seen the same specimen photo's from different members in the galleries, when this was mentioned before (some years ago) Jolyon said it was not a problem.  <br />
<br />
As I see it the fluorite &amp; stilbite photo's can be re-uploaded as individual parents. You could cross-ref the photo's in the description, linking them.<br />
<br />
I hope that answers 1&amp;2 as for 3 I don't see the problem ?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Debbie Woolf</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259186#msg-259186</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259186#msg-259186</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Debbie, I am not following, if I do that then someone will point out that I have duplicate photos. I fixed the child photos to have the mineral of interest be the first one for the photo, but fluorite is still not showing a photo for Merelani. I guess it is working off the parent photo's ordering? I really am not sure what I should be doing. There are multiplle minerals of interest here I think. <br />
<br />
How can I <br />
1) have fluorite AND stilbite show up with pictures on the locality page<br />
2) keep a record that all these photos come from the same piece<br />
3) not have duplicate photos in mindat which will be flagged in separate discussions<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
Bob]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jessica and Robert  Simonoff</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259181#msg-259181</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259181#msg-259181</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ The main photo is called the 'parent' any additional photo's are called the 'child'. <br />
<br />
Bob, I think you can split them up if you want to make a different mineral a parent just need to uploaded it again under the new mineral name.<br />
<br />
Debbie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Debbie Woolf</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259178#msg-259178</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259178#msg-259178</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ OOOhhh! Thanks<br />
<br />
Ray thanks.  The child photo refers to the mindat term wherein you have a photo and then other views of the same piece.  I believe the intent is that if you have one piece with multiple minerals you want to photograph individually, you are supposed to have them all under 1 main photo.  Right???<br />
<br />
Bob]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jessica and Robert  Simonoff</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259176#msg-259176</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259176#msg-259176</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ On a locality page, the photos are categorized by the first mineral on the parent photo.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>David Von Bargen</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259159#msg-259159</guid>
            <title>Re: Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259159#msg-259159</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ a new terminology for me...Child photos...not blowups or magnified view of...but child...I will remember that one..<br />
<br />
also a nice little plug<br />
for Jessica's co-authoured  article with Mike...nice to know and nice to see.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Ray Hill</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259121#msg-259121</guid>
            <title>Photos with child photos</title>
            <link>http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,6,259121,259121#msg-259121</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I uploaded a photo that was approved (thank you admins)<br />
<br />
<div  style="float: left;"><table border ><tr><td colspan=2><a href="photo-461466.html" target="_blank"><img src="../arphotos/400-0105346001335235058.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td align="left"><a href="photo-461466.html" target="_blank">Tanzanite</a></td><td align="right">&copy; </td></tr></table></div>
<br />
<br />
This image has a bunch of child photos of minerals you can only see close up. For example, one is fluorite<br />
<div  style="float: left;"><table border ><tr><td colspan=2><a href="photo-461467.html" target="_blank"><img src="../arphotos/400-0331890001335235329.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td align="left"><a href="photo-461467.html" target="_blank">Fluorite on tanzanite</a></td><td align="right">&copy; </td></tr></table></div>
<br />
<br />
<br />
and<br />
<div  style="float: left;"><table border ><tr><td colspan=2><a href="photo-461471.html" target="_blank"><img src="../arphotos/400-0343243001335235870.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td align="left"><a href="photo-461471.html" target="_blank">Fluorite on stilbite</a></td><td align="right">&copy; </td></tr></table></div>
<br />
<br />
But when I go to the Merelani page and look at fluorite or stilbite, it shows no pictures. Yet when I look through the tanzanite photos I find the piece shown above. Also, when I flip through the tanzanite photos, I do see the latter 2 photos above. Is there some rule about uploading child photos and how one can navigate to them that I was not aware of?<br />
<br />
Thanks for any help you can provide<br />
Bob]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jessica and Robert  Simonoff</dc:creator>
            <category>General</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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