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Stannoan Grossular
Posted by Alfredo Petrov
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Stannoan Grossular July 05, 2012 11:50AM |
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Re: Stannoan Grossular July 05, 2012 12:46PM |
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Re: Stannoan Grossular July 05, 2012 12:50PM |
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Well, there is certainly andradite with structurally incorporated Sn; I don't know about grossular.
If it is indeed only present as inclusions, then it shouldn't be in the formula at all.
If the Sn is structural, then I guess garnets would compensate the charge as they do for Ti: It would be in the second formula position, replacing Al, not Ca, with charge compensated either by a divalent metal in the same position, or by trivalent Fe or Al replacing Si. But that's just my guess.
As we do not know, it would perhaps be best to just erase the formula entirely?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2012 12:55PM by Alfredo Petrov.
If it is indeed only present as inclusions, then it shouldn't be in the formula at all.
If the Sn is structural, then I guess garnets would compensate the charge as they do for Ti: It would be in the second formula position, replacing Al, not Ca, with charge compensated either by a divalent metal in the same position, or by trivalent Fe or Al replacing Si. But that's just my guess.
As we do not know, it would perhaps be best to just erase the formula entirely?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2012 12:55PM by Alfredo Petrov.
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Re: Stannoan Grossular July 05, 2012 02:56PM |
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If you look at the article by Alderton, D.H.M., and Jackson, N.J. (1978): Mineralogical Magazine 42, 427-434., the grossular contains a lot of Fe+3 and isn't particularly end member grossular. Also the max of SnO2 measured was 0.26%, much higher than normal, but really wouldn't ordinarily be designated as a variety.
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They didn't see any inclusions of cassiterite in their thin sections.
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They didn't see any inclusions of cassiterite in their thin sections.
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Re: Stannoan Grossular July 05, 2012 07:05PM |
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Tin bearing skarns are not uncommon.
There is one 20 miles East of Sun Valley, Idaho. I don't think tin was the target element of the prospect, but rather copper and silver.
I collected it many years ago, but could not determine the host for the tin, the reason I visited the property.
The source of the tin was NOT cassiterite.
Diopside was prominent. Would that be a better mineral to contaminate the structure with tin than grossular or andradite ?
If I recall correctly, beryllium was also a prominent trace element.
There is one 20 miles East of Sun Valley, Idaho. I don't think tin was the target element of the prospect, but rather copper and silver.
I collected it many years ago, but could not determine the host for the tin, the reason I visited the property.
The source of the tin was NOT cassiterite.
Diopside was prominent. Would that be a better mineral to contaminate the structure with tin than grossular or andradite ?
If I recall correctly, beryllium was also a prominent trace element.
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Re: Stannoan Grossular July 05, 2012 07:16PM |
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Re: Stannoan Grossular July 05, 2012 10:39PM |
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Hedenbergite formed in a slag contained up to 2.6% SnO2. Andradite was 26% for fast cooled crystals.
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Re: Stannoan Grossular July 06, 2012 02:41PM |
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Several garnet-group end-members with essential Sn have been approved recently ( [www.mindat.org] [www.mindat.org] [www.mindat.org]). Couldn't these provide clues for the incorporation of Sn in the Grossular structure, if it is indeed structural Sn?
Also, Sn-bearing Andradites are known from non-slag localities too. See [www.mindat.org] and [www.mindat.org]
Lefteris.
Also, Sn-bearing Andradites are known from non-slag localities too. See [www.mindat.org] and [www.mindat.org]
Lefteris.
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