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Identity Helpspadigam

25th Mar 2004 08:33 UTCPhil Alderslade

Hi,


In southern India recently I saw beads and rough material that the locals refer to as spadigam. The stuff was colourless, transparent, lightweigt, and somewhat waxy looking. There is little on the internet about this name. I suspect it may in fact be spodumene, and perhaps spadigam is the local mispronunciation of this name (of the other way round??). Can anybody shed some light on this?


Many thanks,

Phil.

26th Mar 2004 08:09 UTCGreatZen

According to the internet recources Spadigam forms hexagonal crystals like quartz. The name spadigam exists only within indian sites and I think probably means some modification of quartz.

Here is the ad from indian site:




PENCIL CRYSTALS:


pyramids made from Spadigam crystals do many wonderful things. Pencil crystal have six sides on its body and six triangles at the tip. Below it has flat surface. By keeping this in our hand good and geniune demands are fulfilled. We can keep it in our pocket. The vibrations emitted from this gives power to the magnetic coming from our body. Our mind vibrations vibration get strengthend. We can to all our delayed work, and stoped works all our delayed work,and stoped works freely and vicoriously.We can avoid accidents by using it.Price Rs.30.


This ad along with a drawing of this "pencil" crystal is found at http://www.indiamedicalinfo.com/mc/709.htm


This "magical" use of the crystal resembles using of smoky quartz crystals.

25th Nov 2008 20:48 UTCbiju narayanan

Recently I'd been to Rishikesh and i'd purchased this spadigam mala from a govt. authorised shop.According to that shopkeeper spadigam is nothing but ice that has been transformed to stone after many years without any sunlight.Due tothis it is very cold when touched.

26th Nov 2008 06:40 UTCMatt Neuzil Expert

lol, probably just quartz

26th Nov 2008 08:53 UTCEmanuele Rambaudi

Funny... The misconception of quartz conceived as ice turned to stone also existed in popular culture throughout the Alps since the Middle Ages, as far as I know. :)

26th Nov 2008 10:38 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


@ Emanuele Rambaudi: This misconception can be found back to the ancient greek culture. "Krys" or "Kryos" in ancient greek means ice. Therefore, the clear quartz crystals, called rock crystal today, where considered as deep frozen ice. The word crystal was formed in ancient greece from "krys", but the word was used only for rock crystal. Other kinds of minerals were referred to as lithos (rock or stone).


Regards,


Sebastian Möller

26th Nov 2008 11:25 UTCEmanuele Rambaudi

My! ::o Sebastian, you're perfectly right, I'm blushing.. Quite forgot such a simple explanation based on etymology...

And, it seems this conception may even be older than greek culture, since linguists identified an indoeuropean root "kreus-" with the meaning more or less of "ice, crust".


As for the main topic, I found this interesting explanation: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/tamil_to_english/other/331117-spadigam.html

So it seems "spadigam" is just the tamil word "padigam", which translates as "crystal" in english.

26th Nov 2008 17:02 UTCMatt Neuzil Expert

thanks for the insight! i now know the origin for cryogenics... :D

26th Nov 2008 18:33 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

There's a story that Aristotle observed the six sides of a snow flake and concluded that rock crystal from the snowy alps was merely water that had frozen so hard it would never melt. Imagine Aristotle confusing trigonal and hexagonal crystal systems!!!

20th Jan 2009 07:07 UTCSenthil Ganesh

This precious stone, having inherent divine power, is a natural six flat faced long stick like glassy growth, varying from 1 inch to 10 feet height. These are stony growths inside the earth in Himalaya mountains, Vindhya mountains and Sangagiri.


The vibration of Spadigam is more than that 32768 times per second. These vibrations are useful to ward off the ill effects of navagrahas and they do good to the wearer.


Puranas describe the Spadigam being a divine stone represent the three forms of goddess sakthi, Lord siva, Lord Vishnu and Lord Brahma.


In yajur vedha ‘Rudram’ Lord siva is described as ‘Jyothir Spadigamani Linga’. That is Lord Siva manisfests in Jyothi form, Linga form and Spadiga form.


Lord Siva’s divinity is pervading in every atom, neutron and electron of this spadigam. It is good to wear this spadigam beads round the neck for self purification of the soul, the mind and the body.

20th Jan 2009 12:31 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Thank you Senthil for this very complete explanation.


But can you explain why it vibes 32768 times a second or how it does it ? How can it be measured ? There must be a very sophisticated and accurate tool to measure the exact 32768 vibes.I presume it is not possible with a simple chronometer.


What would happen if the spadigam vibes only 32765 or as fast as 32812 times ?


As a bachelor in biochemistry, mineral collector, fossil hunter, interested in the birds and the bees, the flowers and the trees and astronomy, I am open to ALL science, I hope to learn from this thread.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

20th Jan 2009 12:50 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

32768 is of course 2 to the power of 15. it's also one more than the maximum value that can be stored in a signed double-byte (or word, or short word depending on how you call it) value in computing (range is -32768 to 32767)


So, presumably he has a Spadigam vibration counter that is designed/programmed with only a two-byte vibration value store, and once it reaches 32767 per second cannot store any more, and flashes up an error saying it's more than 32768 (technically it'd be 32768 or more, but I'll let him off this once).


Now, of course, this could be rectified quite easily if he had a vibration counter that used a long word (or four byte) index value, which of course can store values between −2147483648 to +2147483647 and would therefore be able to far more accurately count the number of Spadigam vibrations. This of course would probably require new hardware.


But even that may not be necessary, this could be fixed with a software upgrade. There is no logical reason why a SIGNED value needs to be stored (a negative number of vibrations makes no sense), so switching the value to an UNSIGNED word would allow storage of values between 0 and 65535, giving, perhaps, a greater chance of recording a more accurate number of vibrations per second.


Just let this be a warning to you to check the range parameters of any vibration monitors you are interested in before you buy.


Jolyon

20th Jan 2009 13:01 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

Hey, everyone knows that quartz vibrates at 32768 hertz. You can see it on the many sites that sell quartz watches.

20th Jan 2009 13:05 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi Jolyon,


That is science !


I am reaching enlighthening, concerning 2 to the power of 15, of course.


Is it that God who lives in the centre of the earth who is pushing these Spadigams to the surface ?


Paul.

20th Jan 2009 15:07 UTCPeter Haas

Why does "Spadigam" remind me of "Spam" ... ?

20th Jan 2009 15:12 UTCAnonymous User

Hmmmm !! not sure Peter. I think you had better change your avatar. ;)


Craig.

20th Jan 2009 21:16 UTCAmir C. Akhavan Expert

I don't want to spoil anybodies fun, but just in case other people read this:

You can make a crystal of quartz or any piezoelectric material oscillate at a wide range of frequencies by modifying the plate's size, shape and angle in which they were cut from the crystal and/or by changing the electric circuits that drive them (they don't vibrate at 32KHz by themselves - proof: cats and dogs don't care for rock crystals).

1 Hertz will be difficult for a quartz crystal, but 500 Hz works just as well as frequencies much higher than 32KHz. Thin quartz membranes are used in ultrasonic loudspeakers that cover a wide frequency range from 100Hz to about 100000Hz.


Yes, I'm boring. ;)

Amir

24th Feb 2010 09:30 UTCArun

ok then...how to identify a real spadigam? has it got any medical significance for one who wears it?

24th Feb 2010 11:11 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

There's no such thing as a "real spadigam", it's just a marketing name. It has no medical significance for the wearer.

24th Feb 2010 14:10 UTCBob Kukiel

This is a scam, right? Or a silly joke.


There is no such things as "spadigam." I know because no one is selling them on ebay. I just checked.

23rd Jun 2010 15:06 UTCArchana

There is such a thing called 'spadigam' b'cause I own one, my mom does and so does my sister. It's kinda common amongst the hindu community. =)

23rd Jun 2010 17:41 UTCJohn Lichtenberger

It must be true, because, as of this thread, now it's on the internet... ;)

http://boingboing.net/images/2086934736_94e0720871.jpg


auplater

6th Jul 2011 17:02 UTCK.Velayuhham

Hello Arun,



1, The mental pressure reduce when we wear it.

2, The body heat makes stress and the stress reduce when we wear it.

3, I had high Blood pressure ,then i plan to wear spadigam and now the blood pressure is normal.

4, I prefer to say one thing natural products are good when we use it in good ways , So to all i want to say is "EVERY ACTION HAS AN

OPPOSITE REACTION"

6th Jul 2011 18:32 UTCEvan Johnson

In such case I would strongly suggest a double-blinded, placebo-controlled study to confirm the above effects (nonexistence of 'mental pressure' notwithstanding). Such an item would be tremendously profitable and of untold benefit to the medical community. Something with so many positive effect and no side effects would be remarkable. Remember, as it is said, the plural of anecdotes is not data. I would humbly suggest that tremendous difficulty would be encountered in finding funding and interest for and in such endeavors.

EMJ

6th Jul 2011 19:23 UTCPaul Siegel 🌟

John,


Your diagram is great. If I give you credit, may I have permission to print it out and post it on the door to my office.


Paul
 
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