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cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?

Posted by Frédéric Hède  
cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 09:00AM
Hello !

All is in the title :). Thanks





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2012 09:10AM by Frédéric Hède.
avatar Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 01:50PM
    
Hi Frédéric,

Possibly Cobaltkoritnigite? Compare here: [www.mindat.org]

Ron
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 02:52PM
Yes it's exactly that !

But on other post someone siad to me than it's probably erythrite.... Please help me for this identification :).
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 02:58PM
    
Frederic,

I noticed this thread after I started a different topic concerning your photographs! See [www.mindat.org]

To me, this is certainly NOT Cobaltlotharmeyerite, and most probably Erythrite. It could also be some other white arsenate such as Picropharmacolite, tinged pink by Co impurity.

I also strongly doubt that it can be Cobaltkoritnigite. Also these two photos [www.mindat.org] and [www.mindat.org] are most probably Erythrites and not Cobaltkoritnigite. True Cobaltkoritnigite shows a different distinct purple-red colour and also different crystal shape, such as in these photos (all from Bou Azzer distr.): [www.mindat.org] [www.mindat.org] [www.mindat.org] [www.mindat.org]

On the other hand, the tiny indistinct reddish-brown micro-xls scattered on Quartz and the grey sulfide, that are visible in several of your photos (most clearly here [www.mindat.org] ), are much more likely to be Cobaltlotharmeyerite.

Lefteris.
avatar Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 03:34PM
Can I also add this is a very good example of why it is a bad idea to add text data, such as mineral names, to your photograph images.

When corrected, these images can not be displayed in the main database.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 03:41PM
Text is not a problem for me.. Problem is base where my photo are fixed. On all other website i can change with an external link :). Text modification are easy with photoshop an less with jpeg photo.... I don't work with jpeg or png. In fact some other problem exist too with low quality of photo on mindat. Format is not my format and compression is often bad.

Ok for erythrite but change on your base error too :)

Thanks Lefteris :)


I make modification in next hours.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2012 03:53PM by Frédéric Hède.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 03:47PM
Picropharmacolite here

I prefer this solution because color are not ever the same pink not ?

and here the same problem : (i take erythrite like this photo....)

same problem



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2012 03:51PM by Frédéric Hède.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 04:05PM
    
[www.mindat.org]
Concerning this photo, the Sainfeldite ID is probably correct for the central violet-coloured crystals (I don't think it's Cobaltkoritnigite).

Concerning the pink balls, they could be either Erythrite, or Co-bearing Picropharmacolite. I really can't tell here. Association with Sainfeldite implies Picropharmacolite, but of course could also be consistent with Erythrite.

Lefteris.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 04:41PM
All modification have been done :). For me, it's important to learn. Thanks for all.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 06:06PM
    
I agree with Lefteris. Will sent messages concerning the two mentioned photos.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 06:21PM
hello,

i have written to Ivan (who has sent this specimen to me)

His response : I open personately the geode, extracting 46 samples. I let 2 of them analyze and they both gave a high Mg enought to cosider them wendwilsonite.

=> Mg is enough to spell them wendwilsonite....

I correct now definitively... ;)

Fred



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2012 07:11PM by Frédéric Hède.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 07:01PM
    
Excellent, this info is precious to add in the photo captions.

By the way, Frederic, these are beautiful photos!!

Lefteris.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 08, 2012 07:15PM
Thanks Lefteris ;). And i hope to continue longtimes, it's a great hobby for my old days....
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 10, 2012 06:13PM
    
"I let 2 of them analyze and they both gave a high Mg enought to cosider them wendwilsonite."

If the analyses were done by SEM-EDS you have to watch out - Mg and As peaks show a very strong overlap!
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 13, 2012 10:11PM
    
I asked about this a long time ago but got no response so I will ask it again. I have a specimen with this [www.mindat.org] directly on top of this [www.mindat.org] Is it common to find two different forms of Erythrite together like this or are the balls something else?
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 14, 2012 05:48PM
    
It's not common, but I have seen such two generations of erythrite.
Re: cobalt - lotharmeyerite or koritnigite ?
May 15, 2012 06:51PM
    
I also have one such piece. I have always assumed that both are Erythrite - just of two different generations.
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