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Autunite/meta-autunite/autunite group?

Posted by Michael Otto  
Autunite/meta-autunite/autunite group?
May 22, 2012 10:36PM
The Autunite is on a large Smoky Quartz crystal collected in Litchfield county,Ct. I have others from the same pocket that fluoresce bright green at the contact points but Autunite cannot be seen without SW. With this particular crystal it is possible to see the Autunite with the naked eye. Should they be labeled the same or one meta and the other Autunite or all just plain Autunite group?
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Re: Autunite/meta-autunite/autunite group?
May 23, 2012 12:42AM
ca    
May just be uranyl ions in calcite or opal, green fluorescence does not necessarily mean it is autunite.
Re: Autunite/meta-autunite/autunite group?
May 23, 2012 07:03AM
Reiner Mielke Wrote:
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> May just be uranyl ions in calcite or opal, green
> fluorescence does not necessarily mean it is
> autunite.

I should have mentioned Autunite is listed for this locality, Calcite and Opal are not. I should have it's radioactivity checked.
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May 23, 2012 06:10PM
ca    
Michael, you say, " but Autunite cannot be seen without SW." In that case you see Uranyl ions as Reiner says and not necessarily autunite.
Re: Autunite/meta-autunite/autunite group?
May 23, 2012 06:13PM
us    
Also, both calcite & opal, being nearly ubiquitous, are not often mentioned in a species list unless they are significant.

Don
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May 24, 2012 10:59AM
us    
If you can only see it fluoresce in SW, then it's not autunite. Autunite will fluoresce brightly in LW, and even brighter in SW.
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May 24, 2012 02:36PM
us    
Hi Michael,

This is almost certainly Opal-AN, as Reiner and Don suggested.

Ron



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2012 04:07PM by Ronald John Gyllenhammer.
Re: Autunite/meta-autunite/autunite group?
May 28, 2012 11:36AM
Thanks for the help w/ID. The photo of the same view of the point of the crystal without SW light shows the white material, which fluoresces bright green, and is clearly seen with naked eye. Some of the contact points with other crystals fluoresce brightly, but material cannot be seen without SW.
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May 28, 2012 02:56PM
Hi Michael,
Is your quartz crystal from the East Morris Dam quarry pit? A number of large smokey quartz crystals have come from there and there significant uranium minerals in that area. Most of it is carnotite, but I see no reason that others that fluoresce would not be there also.
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June 12, 2012 12:06PM
us    
Definitely opal-AN, which is basically everywhere in Conn. if you look enough with a UV lamp.
Little or nothing has been written about this quarry other than a few lists in guidebooks or club bulletins without supporting data. Even the bedrock quadrangle map done by Gates in 1951 does not show the Nonewaug (aka Woodbury) Granite extending into the hill where the quarry is (which is shown by the topo lines) even though it clearly does (he shows it nearby though). The accompanying text gives only a general description of the petrology and mineralogy of this formation, with no mention of uranium minerals. As far as I know, carnotite in Connecticut is restricted to the sandstones of the Hartford basin, well documented at the Old Newgate Mine in East Granby.
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