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Posted by Rolf Brandt  
photo of the day
December 06, 2011 07:21PM
    
Maybe it has been posted before, but I would like to know with what camera/objective the "photo of the day" pictures were taken. It would also be informative if focus-stacking was used. The pictures are always quite good and one can learn from that. Regards Rolf
avatar Re: photo of the day
December 06, 2011 09:19PM
    
Rolf, for some of the photos you can see what gear they used here: [www.mindat.org]
If you want to know what a photographer used for a specific photo you can send him a PM.

Cheers,

Harjo
Re: photo of the day
December 06, 2011 09:56PM
    
Hallo Harjo, bedankt. most are stacked. i thought i can't make proper photo's anymore. rolf
avatar Re: photo of the day
December 06, 2011 11:16PM
Hello Rolf,

I have recenty invested some time and investigated and compared aperture closure against stacking at maximumn resolution of the lens. The result is quite clear: Below the 10 cm field of view range in digital photography stacking outperforms always single shot with smaller aperture. And as it can be automated I now do it regulary. So my phototype is now often full view with layer composition. My only used f-stop is 8. This gives (typical) the best resolution. The camera is not important as long it has the right firmware and software to communicate with software tools, it´s the lens, the light and the eye of a photographer patient enough to train for skills. To turn photography in good photography is not one big multiplier, many small increments make sucess.

Volker
Re: photo of the day
December 07, 2011 07:27PM
    
Thanks Volker, i must go into stacking. regards Rolf
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December 07, 2011 10:07PM
    
[www.hadleyweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk]
Freeware stacking software, works like a charm winking smiley

Cheers,

Harjo
avatar Re: photo of the day
December 12, 2011 09:06AM
    
Volker Betz

The camera is not important....

its important yes, take a crop on a photo take with a canon 1000D and a 5D mark II and look the difference, lens its the first on the importance, but if a good lens work on a not good camera, even useless take photos.

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Re: photo of the day
December 16, 2011 09:49PM
In fact, for me camera is not very important. Most of camera are enough to take good photo with my technic. I use a bridge and it's enough for me. In france, standard is reflex with luminar.... It's not the only possibility.... I try all kind of lens and in fact, expensive lens are not usefull...

Bridge or compact, close-up and microscopic objective are able to done the same result and maybe better when technic is good. Look my photo and others with reflex.... Do you see a difference ?

With 1000 euros you have all for take all photo... until 0.6 mm of FOV....

And POTD dont' mean quality.... Sorry but a lot of are not the best....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2011 09:51PM by Frédéric Hède.
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December 16, 2011 10:42PM
    
The difference I seen, I am professionist photographer and its years I work on photography. 1000 euro only? for all my set, lenses, camera etc.. I have pay over 15.000,00 euro. And difference its well visible from a normaly bridge to a full frame camera.

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avatar Re: photo of the day
December 16, 2011 11:08PM
A good photographer with a cheap camera will take better photos than a poor photographer with an expensive camera.

Volker is right, the camera is not the most important thing.

Of course, when you become good, you can spend more money to get a better camera and produce better results.

Jolyon
avatar Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 06:10AM
    
ok, you take a photo taken with a canon 20D and another taken with canon 5D mark II and look if you not seen the difference. Just only in the crop you seen the difference

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Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 08:29AM
Matteo,

i have offer a thing : Exchange some microminerals to take same photo of these. All reflex have refused this proposal....Afraid ?

The reason is simple, reflex is not important pour micromineral photo. The difference come with the quality of lenses....

If you want i can make photo of all specimen than you want to compare my system at 1000 euros (with camera) and your system. For this time money don't give avantage. Quality is done by photograph, eyes and intelligence....

Also, same methods give same results. Often, photo are too dark in mindat... Dark cover defaults but don't give good photo. For me minerals are living not dead. Colour, light is important. So Matteo for that you are in the best without problem for others we are not on the same wave lenght.

And today the POTD have been selected by friends for friends. Yes it's a good photo (for this time) but on an other forum, this photo has already been selected haha ! I can said when french photo is selected or not.... Do you want a list ?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/17/2011 09:04AM by Frédéric Hède.
avatar Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 10:00AM
    
Frédéric Hède Wrote:
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> Matteo,
>
> i have offer a thing : Exchange some microminerals
> to take same photo of these. All reflex have
> refused this proposal....Afraid ?

I not have problems, I have photographed minerals photographed from other photographers and you can see the difference. And just for say some of your photos are many out of focus or without contrast, others is ok, this is strange why or all photos come out of focus or all photos are right. I understand the out of focus on a crystal of under 1 mm, but not on area of 3-4 mm

>
> The reason is simple, reflex is not important pour
> micromineral photo. The difference come with the
> quality of lenses....
>

well, my all lenses its zeiss luminar, nikkor, photar-leitz the best in the market

> If you want i can make photo of all specimen than
> you want to compare my system at 1000 euros (with
> camera) and your system. For this time money don't
> give avantage. Quality is done by photograph, eyes
> and intelligence....

yes, otherwise I would not work for 5 magazines of mineralogy

>
> Also, same methods give same results. Often,
> photo are too dark in mindat... Dark cover
> defaults but don't give good photo. For me
> minerals are living not dead. Colour, light is
> important. So Matteo for that you are in the best
> without problem for others we are not on the same
> wave lenght.
>
> And today the POTD have been selected by friends
> for friends. Yes it's a good photo (for this time)
> but on an other forum, this photo has already been
> selected haha ! I can said when french photo is
> selected or not.... Do you want a list ?

yes is nice, but not many cured, its well visible have used a multifocus system

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Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 10:18AM
hi Matteo,

i don't work for magazine... They don't paid in France.... I prefer work for others people who want photo for book etc. And magazine are not quality enough for than i paid for that.

Sometimes i work fastly and it's not important to make the best photo.... An other problem on mindat is the resize. I work with a native size of 1150 pixel (for photo) and the compression give low result.... But i can increase the level sometimes too ! I don't optimise for mindat.

For seen the real photo it's possible to click on but not all times.

Ok matteo, for me magazine (i don't buy magazine....) are not important. If you want compare it's possible. You can send what you want just for seen the difference between a professionnal like you and an amator like me. I promise to do the best with than i can.

But when i see your photo on mindat, i can make photo at the same level (or better ? haha). I know that. But perhaps it's false, give me a lesson :). But friendly...

In fact this small world is full of sharks.... But for me don't recognise my work is a problem. In these case, i can increase quality... It's just for pleasure to compare with reflex. Because reflex are for professionnal (no ?) and others can't done so well. Matteo you speak like a professor and i 'm not a student. Just make photo with my small material (yes for 1000 euro you can take like me). Sometimes you said very interessant thing but please try to be friendly. We are not in the world of lux.

Camera = 300 euros
Micrometric system = 100 euros
Plate = 50 euros
Tube and ring = 100 euros
Close-up = 120 euros
two Objectives = 200 euros
Lens tube = 130 euros.

With this minial system fov is between infini and 0.6 mm for field of view.

Perhaps i can made an effort for mitutoyo .... I m' not sure than nikon is less good.

No money is not important....



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/17/2011 10:37AM by Frédéric Hède.
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December 17, 2011 10:37AM
    
Frédéric Hède Wrote:
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> hi Matteo,
>
>
> Sometimes i work fastly and it's not important to
> make the best photo.... An other problem on mindat
> is the resize. I work with a native size of 1150
> pixel (for photo) and the compression give low
> result.... But i can increase the level sometimes
> too ! I don't optimise for mindat.

calculate my photos on mindat its many resized, normaly on mindat I put photos 800x534 but now I have start to put photos of 1000x667 but normaly the photos for magazine, books etc.. go for 3543x2362 but I not put on mindat for copyright questions, but they not lost quality, is this the nice of the full frame, you cut but no lost, start to cut with a normaly reflex or crop, and you seen how many nice pixel squares you seen, for not speack of the grain in the photo. And I work with JPG, not RAW.

>
> For seen the real photo it's possible to click on
> but not all times.
>
> Ok matteo, for me magazine (i don't buy
> magazine....) are not important. If you want
> compare it's possible. You can send what you want
> just for seen the difference between a
> professionnal like you and an amator like me. I
> promise to do the best with than i can.
>
> But when i see your photo on mindat, i can make
> photo at the same level (or better ? haha). I know
> that. But perhpas it's false, give me a lesson :).

depend from how much you take photos, me its 20 years, and only from 4 years I take photo of minerals. I did a lot of bets on photo theme, with others who think that a simple compact work as a full frame, but they have always lost the bet.

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Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 10:46AM
Okay matteo no crop just resize and full size for seen. My photo on mindat have no crop. The size is 4000x3000 pixel. When i sell for A4 page (300 DPI, in tiff) , it's necessary. You can choose what you want with the size too. I can make between infini and 0.6 mm.

I wan't lose the bet against you, but for the moment.... I don't know.

I have not à lot of specimen exept anatase. But you are more rich than me.

Friendly

Fred



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/17/2011 10:48AM by Frédéric Hède.
Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 11:02AM
Yes bridge are not the best but to compare i must see the difference.

here a photo of 0.7 mm of field of with a crop of 1000 pixel (0.2 mm of FOV)






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/17/2011 11:13AM by Frédéric Hède.
avatar Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 12:20PM
    
my tests its here

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sorry its in italian but is possible translate with google.

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avatar Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 12:24PM
    
argh the test on pyroclore not open

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Re: photo of the day
December 17, 2011 12:28PM
Matteo image "not found" FOv is not indicate.

Good example for me if you want i can take this in photo :)
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