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massive crystals found in warwick new york

Posted by Glenn Rhein  
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November 19, 2010 06:18AM
us    
Scapolite is tetragonal. The crystals in the photographs appear to be monoclinic, and are very likely to be orthoclase. Scapolite will decompose in hydrochloric acid, while orthoclase will not. Also, scapolite fusibilty is 3, while orthoclase is 5. If these tests were to be tried, it would help to confirm the mineral's identity.
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November 19, 2010 05:33PM
Hi Mickey,
Scapolite is well-known from the area. These crystals that Glenn found are definitely Scapolite. There is some orthoclase feldspar as well in the area, but the orthoclase from Amity is easily identifiable with its etches and slight sheen. In fact, they sometimes go together - I personally have found crystals of Scapolite associated together with Orthoclase from Amity and they are quite a bit different.
Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 22, 2010 12:47AM
The first octohedrons we have found so far, they are very small only about 1/8 of an inch.
They are on a large mass of phlogopite.
Thanks again everyone for all your imput.



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November 22, 2010 03:49AM
Hey Glenn,
Looks you finally found the elusive Spinel that Amity is famous for! Hopefully you'll start finding them nice and big!
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November 22, 2010 04:56AM
pe    
I dont know the area that well but is it possible for them to be zircons? I'm sure in the hand it would be easier to know.

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November 22, 2010 12:25PM
Herschel is correct. Spinel. I'm certain that the giant spinels are lurking somewhere, Glenn. Just a matter of time before you find them.
Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 23, 2010 12:31AM
All of the specimens that you left for me turned out to be uvite tourmaline, the one we suspected might be vesuvianite was also tourmaline. The pinkish specimen that everyone was calling yttrocerite at your house was pink microcline feldspar. The blue-white fluorescent material that appears white is diopside. The scapolite is calcium dominant and is called meionite. The bright green amphibole that fluoresces yellow in the white marble that you gave to Marian is fluor-edenite. The micaceous material is phlogopite mica with chlorite. I think this was the mica they were trying to tell you was clintonite. The next time I see you I can go over the specimens and tell you which is which in case you are confused.

Just recieved this from the NYS museum. A big thanks to everyone at the museum.
A must visit to all the rock hounds



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Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 24, 2010 11:53PM
Three nice Titanites, about 1 1/4 inches each. My next cleaning project.
Happy Thanksgiving



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November 25, 2010 08:06AM
pe    
Glenn Rhein Wrote:
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> Three nice Titanites, about 1 1/4 inches each. My
> next cleaning project.
> Happy Thanksgiving

these should turn out nice after cleaning :) continually looking forward to your finds

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Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 25, 2010 10:43AM
fr    
My oh my, this is absolutely amazing, flabbergastering, stupefying !

You sure must have a great time digging up all these beauties, so many species ! It's been said before, but you are indeed very lucky to own such a piece of land Glenn.

Thanks a lot for sharing your find with us and, of course, keep digging !

Cheers,

Aymeric
Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 25, 2010 05:35PM
A three foot by two foot spray of tremolite on top of a boulder, really nice light blue fluorescence



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Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 27, 2010 03:11PM
The best fluorapatite we have found yet, just about 4 inches long on some really well formed crystals.



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Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 27, 2010 06:20PM
at    
If I follow this thread a while longer, I think I am going to burst ;)

This find does not cease to amaze me.

Cheers

Harry
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November 27, 2010 09:02PM
Just goes to show that even when you believe you know everything there is to know about an area, something amazing like this pops up....

Keep up the good work, Glenn!! smileys with beer
Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 29, 2010 01:11AM
Found this today with Andy Givens, I think its Clintonite and or biotite. Its very different then the other micas, its much harder and more brittle. cool stuff
Thanks for coming by Andy.



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Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 29, 2010 10:00PM
Some weird yard rocks, first one is marble and weathered crystals ? The other is marble and I think Quartz



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Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
November 29, 2010 11:12PM
that last one is a real wierd one glenn!
Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
December 01, 2010 08:11PM
This one weighs over forty pounds and is bigger than a basketball, Its just a mass of straw like crystals. Its dirty but has slight light blue fluorescence.
Tremolite ? In the lawn garden or back on the rock wall ?



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Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
December 01, 2010 09:59PM
This is certainly the thread of the year here in my opinion. Captivating and astonishing and cool that its in NY where I am. But, now that Glenn has found all this and mineral specimens are making it to museums and such there certainly needs to be a name associated with this occurance...what neat name have you decided upon for this occurance? Glenn's back yard just doesn't seem to cut it. And maybe Ive missed it, but whats the occurance name ?
Re: massive crystals found in warwick new york
December 02, 2010 02:06AM
They look like tremolites, yes, and the color of fluorescence fits. Probably a bluish gray to grayish blue, right? Look for cleavage parallel to the length of the crystals -- if you see two sets of cleavage surfaces at angles of about 120 and 60 degrees it's an amphibole, and probably tremolite. Also look at daylight color on a fresh surface. Tremolite from the Franklin Marble is normally pale to medium gray.
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