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How to clean native silver?
Posted by Federico Perola
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How to clean native silver? January 19, 2006 10:25AM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? January 26, 2006 02:02AM |
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Try putting about 1/2 cup of baking soda into 2 cups of water. Next, cover the bottom of a pot with aluminum foil. add water and boil. Next, add the silver and several (at least 5) small 1-inch diameter balls of aluminum foil. Keep silver in boiling water for 10-15 minutes... Always works great for me!
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Re: How to clean native silver? January 26, 2006 07:13AM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? January 27, 2006 12:20AM |
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I find that distilled water works best. I HIGHLY RECCOMEND USING THIS TECHNIQUE ON A SMALL SACRAFICIAL PIECE OF THE SPECIMEN AT HAND. Although this method always works for me, It may not work to your satisfaction. If the sacraficial piece is not what you want it to be like, I'll try to think of another way.
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Re: How to clean native silver? January 27, 2006 04:55AM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 522 |
Hello,
I assume that you mean removing the tarnish, instead of simply cleaning soil from the specimen. The method I will outline is similar to that of David above; like his, it works electrolytically. You can use it to remove a good percentage of the tarnish on silver specimens and I don't think it will harm calcite. Best results are obtained by observing the specimen during treatment and pulling it out when enough tarnish has been removed to improve the appearence. Some tarnish can be quite aesthetic. You should also carefully consider whether the tarnish is actually unsightly before you risk a specimen. Try the treatment for a minute or two and then repeat until you are satisfied. It is best to err on the side of conservatism, rather than ruin a piece.
Here is the method: Place a flat piece of aluminum at the bottom of a sauce pan. A nice short length of aluminum flat bar is best, but any solid flat piece of aluminum will work. Fill the pan part way with enough distilled water to cover the specimen when it is resting on the aluminum. Create a saturated solution by heating up the water until it is warm to hot (not boiling) and adding baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and table salt (sodium chloride) in equal amounts until you can dissolve no more. A little excess undissolved salt or soda does not seem to harm anything. Place the silver specimen on the aluminum so that the silver metal makes electrical contact with the aluminum. Wait and watch, keeping the solution below boiling in temperature.
This method has worked for me.
Best Regards,
Bob
I assume that you mean removing the tarnish, instead of simply cleaning soil from the specimen. The method I will outline is similar to that of David above; like his, it works electrolytically. You can use it to remove a good percentage of the tarnish on silver specimens and I don't think it will harm calcite. Best results are obtained by observing the specimen during treatment and pulling it out when enough tarnish has been removed to improve the appearence. Some tarnish can be quite aesthetic. You should also carefully consider whether the tarnish is actually unsightly before you risk a specimen. Try the treatment for a minute or two and then repeat until you are satisfied. It is best to err on the side of conservatism, rather than ruin a piece.
Here is the method: Place a flat piece of aluminum at the bottom of a sauce pan. A nice short length of aluminum flat bar is best, but any solid flat piece of aluminum will work. Fill the pan part way with enough distilled water to cover the specimen when it is resting on the aluminum. Create a saturated solution by heating up the water until it is warm to hot (not boiling) and adding baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and table salt (sodium chloride) in equal amounts until you can dissolve no more. A little excess undissolved salt or soda does not seem to harm anything. Place the silver specimen on the aluminum so that the silver metal makes electrical contact with the aluminum. Wait and watch, keeping the solution below boiling in temperature.
This method has worked for me.
Best Regards,
Bob
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Re: How to clean native silver? January 30, 2006 07:09AM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? February 17, 2006 08:43PM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? February 19, 2006 07:34AM |
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You'd better watch out when using Tarn-X with calcite! The active ingredient in Tarn-X is acidified thiourea, a potent reducing agent. While thiourea is probably one of the best ways I know of to remove tarnish and corrosion from copper and silver, Tarn-X contains acids to lower the pH of the solution. These acids will rapidly attack carbonates such as calcite and malachite. I've used straight thiourea to clean copper and silver electronic parts with success. One of the more interesting cleaning methods I've tried involves placing the metal to be cleaned in a solution of thiourea and then adding an equal amount of 30% hydrogen peroxide. After a few seconds, the mixed solutions will react violently enough to spew boiling liquid out of the container. (This is best done outside, over a catch basin.) After the reaction quiets down, the metal will have acquired a mirror-like polish. This method is a variation of an old metal finisher's process known as bombing. The original process used sodium or potassium cyanide instead of the much safer thiourea. Definitely not recommended, even if you could get the cyanide. 30% hydrogen peroxide can be gotten at any Home Depot store, if you know what to look for. This stuff is extremely nasty and will leave painful bleached spots on any exposed skin it happens to contact.
Franklin Roberts
Austin, Texas
Franklin Roberts
Austin, Texas
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Re: How to clean native silver? February 20, 2006 02:35PM |
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Mel Judy
Re: How to clean native silver? February 21, 2006 08:17PM |
Would either the electrolytic method involving the silver-aluminum cell or the use of "TarnX" be usable on a matrix specimen of native silver dendrites on native arsenic? The use of aluminum wads circulatinjg by boiling water might allow the former to work here.I would appreciate coments from users of both methods.
Thanks and Best Regards,
Mel Judy
Thanks and Best Regards,
Mel Judy
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Doug Mcdow
Re: How to clean native silver? November 05, 2006 05:36PM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? May 04, 2007 06:24PM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? May 05, 2007 11:24AM |
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Randy
Re: How to clean native silver? September 16, 2007 01:53AM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? September 16, 2007 04:20AM |
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Ronald L. Blattman
Re: How to clean native silver? November 14, 2007 12:55AM |
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Hunter
Re: How to clean native silver? April 28, 2012 05:03AM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? April 28, 2012 09:21PM |
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Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 81 |
One consideration for the method of cleaning silver, it that the electrolytic aluminum technique reduces the tarnish depositing the silver back on the specimen. Other methods of tarnish removal actually removes the tarnish (silver sulfide) taking the combined silver with it . This means that repeated cleanings with non-electrolytic methods will gradually reduce the weight of silver in the specimen over time.
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Re: How to clean native silver? May 26, 2012 04:29AM |
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Re: How to clean native silver? September 21, 2012 07:13PM |
Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 51 |
Have another question for this thread. Ran into some nice micro silver crystals in the Keweenaw of Michigan. Some are very sharp and lustrous in prehnite vugs but others were at or near the surface of the rock and look dull (tarnished?). Would appreciate recommendations on cleaning these crystals. Preserving calcite is not an issue (in fact I'm acid etching calcite off some of the trimmed rock fragments in attempt to discover more crystals, some of the vugs and fissues are calcite filled). However, a few silver cystals are associated with copper wires. Another potential problem in cleaning these specimens is loss of the crystals, some are loosely attached in the vugs. In fact one silver crystal disappeared during handling of the material (disappointing as that one had an associated tangle of copper wires!).
Thanks,
George
Thanks,
George
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