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Catskill Collecting

Posted by Jeremy Zolan  
Greg Black
Re: Catskill Collecting
January 24, 2010 05:42AM
Hello again,
I have not been on this site for many years so I am sorry for not responding to all your interest. I will not be going back out hunting for anything till spring time but this is a good time to get to know some of you if you are still interested. This is a passion of mine and I have met some really nice people who have given me clues to help me find some interesting caves. I have been in many caves from Kingston to Wortsboro. I own the hang gliding school in Ellenville,called Mountain Wings Inc and my land starts at the base of the mountain and goes up past rt52 so I get to explore the side of the mountain as well as the river beds which always seem to surprise me with some great finds. This mountain if covered in crystals. Lets get together by e-mail , or visit my web site at: .Greg
Re: Catskill Collecting
January 24, 2010 02:20PM
Hi Grege great to hear from you that would be great if we could great together you and my friend to do some collecting with you. I am from New Jersey the town is Bloomingdale NJ that is northern New Jersey its about 20 minutes from Franklin NJ. And my friend is from NY up around Terry town i believe, we try to go on some mineral collecting trips all around when the weather is good,so if you would like to get together and do some collecting in the spring that would be great if you like you can give me your phone number and i will give you mine so i can call you or you can call me in the spring when we could do some collecting..I also collect micros and thumbnails i been collecting for awhile now so it sounds like a great place to go thanks for getting back to me so let me no Grege thanks again Bob.PS Grege send me that info on a private message.
Jamin Neet
Re: Catskill Collecting
January 25, 2010 05:05AM
Heya! I live in Poughkeepsie now, and I'm definitely interested in hitting the area over there. I've gone over to CT (about 40 minutes from here) to a real nice garnet mine, and last spring went up north to pull some Herkimer diamonds. I didn't realize there were good finds so close to home, I really want to head over there this spring sometime. I'd be more than happy to help you move that rock out of the way!
Phil NP
Re: Catskill Collecting
March 08, 2010 01:16AM
Hi Everyone,

I live in New Paltz and I did a little bit of mineral collecting last year in the Ellenville/Wurtsboro area.
In the quarry behind Berme Road Park I found some pea-sized pyrite crystals after cracking open a few rocks.
There were also some smaller quartz crystals covering the edges of some of the rocks I found on the ground.
At the upper and lower Wurtsboro mines I unearthed some interesting galena and chalcopyrite specimens from the tailing piles.

Hopefully, once the snow melts, I plan to go back again for some more collecting.

Does anyone know of some additional locations that are accessible and worth checking out?


Phil NP
Re: Catskill Collecting
March 10, 2010 03:18AM
Here are a few more pictures of galena and, I think, chalcopyrite from the upper and lower Wurtsboro (Mamakating) mine.


James Smith
Re: Catskill Collecting
October 27, 2010 03:45PM
Hi Greg,
I am allways looking for mines and caves to explore and don't mind doing a little digging. If you want to organize a group to get into a mine or cave I am game.
Re: Sun Ray Tunnel/Mine
April 10, 2011 10:40PM
Hey Dan, I have been on your sites about the old mines and found them very interesting. I am part of Orange County Mineral Society and we enjoy going to place like these. We have been to Ellenville, Upper/Lower Wurtsboro, and the Washington Mine. I also found a spot further down the Shawangunk ridge. I was hoping you mite be able to give directions to a couple of the other mines on your page or even guide us. My email is
avatar Re: Sun Ray Tunnel/Mine
April 10, 2011 11:48PM

I am part of Dan's group. You'll have better luck contacting him through ABM if you have not already done so.
Re: Catskill Collecting
April 23, 2012 07:58PM
Dan... I work full time as a Emergency Services dispatcher for Ulster County.... and I do photography on the side. Any chance you can email me with the names and location of the mines that you have located in Ulster County so that we can enter them in to our system at work. Prefer to have each name or aka along with best access points for each and also the actual coordinates for each location if you have it. If anyone were to call up 911 and say someone needed help at any of these locations... we would have no records showing that any of these locations exist as of now. Pretty scary fact that it would delay any emergency response to this locations. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to email me at
Mad Zach
April 23, 2012 09:47PM
These photos were taken with a Celestron digital microscope of some quartz formations I dug up from the lead mines near Wurtzboro Airport. Amoung the clear quartz, and the lemon-yellow and orange-brown citrines, there are occaissional red crystals such as in these photos. Is it correct to say these are "red quartz" crystals?
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miner dan
Re: Catskill Collecting
April 23, 2012 10:00PM
Hey guys, From the getgo we only shared locations with folks on our team. David Bernstein is a member and knows all these places. Only a few handful of people know. Its kinda like our intellectual property we worked hard to find them, hiked allot, spent allot. Plus there is liability in sharing the locals. If someone were missing in a mining area calll NJ search and rescue. My partner Bob Mykytka from the ramapo division is a lieutenant, he would know where to look in the area and is trained in technical mine rescue.

Re: Catskill Collecting
April 23, 2012 11:40PM
MAD ZACH I don't profess to know a lot about your quartz, but I am a purist. Here in Indiana our quartz geodes are often discolored on the crystal surfaces by iron/rust staining. All shades of yellow thru orange to reddish and rusty reddish surface stained colors can be found. I don't consider this "citrine" or "red quartz" at all as the stain can easily be removed or at least lightened up with household iron out rust remover. The quartz crystals themselves are probably not colored. You might call your quartz "citrine colored" or "red colored" but that's just what I feel; maybe someone else feels differently.
Re: Catskill Collecting
July 15, 2012 10:40PM
Zach it looks like you found some of the Metacinnabar (mercury ore) handsomly deposited and quite probable given the Wurtsboro locale frequency of this remarkable occurance!! As far as Citrine on the ridge, yes Iron/Hematite attributes for staining that is nicely removable. As far as Exceptions to this rule... I hope the floater from my AU naturale Mountain brewed rootbeer floater pocket settles that debate;)
Re: Catskill Collecting
July 20, 2012 12:03PM
Citrine Quartz from Ellenville
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Re: Catskill Collecting
July 20, 2012 04:14PM

Not citrine, just quartz with FeOx staining along grain boundaries. Sorry. They are pretty little gems though!

Re: Catskill Collecting
July 21, 2012 12:11PM
Stone, is that from the Berne Road Park quarry, or from someplace else in the area? I was very briefly in the quarry a few months ago. I managed to find some small quartz crystals and pieces of pyrite without much labor, but didn't really have time to poke around. I'll probably be heading back there in a few days, as luck would have it, and I'd love to know if there are other nice places nearby.
hal schupak
Re: Catskill Collecting
June 24, 2014 09:55PM
Hi all. I spent many summers. In. Ellenville and high view. In the 60s. I'd love to explore them with someone from the trip state area. I am in the the NYC area. And an avid. Mineral. Collector.
Re: Catskill Collecting
June 24, 2014 11:39PM
The New York State Museum in Albany has many specimens from Ellenville, some on display, which have the especially the large chalcopyrite crystals on quartz that occurred in the mine. It's a classic locality for the chalco xls, and the rarely found brookite crystals. My husband and i just happened to stop to stay over in Ellenville on the way home when the huge quartz pockets were uncovered by construction. He sat inside one of them and collected many crystals.
The garnets from the Barton mine are huge, but very fractured, and most cut gems from there are very dark, and show very little bright red color. Years ago, areas that were partially taken over with wild plants in the pit had lots of sundew plants on the ground, which I found equally as interesting as the garnets.
HV Underground
Re: Catskill Collecting
November 25, 2014 02:42AM
Greg, I see this was posted a while ago, did you ever get inside the cave? I'm actually a caver and in a group of people that find and dig open new caves in the northeast called the rockeaters. I would love to get in contact with you and check it out. If there's cave there we can find it. You can get ahold of me on Facebook at hvunderground845
Catskills collecting
Re: Catskill Collecting
May 12, 2015 11:40PM
Could you please help me find good collecting locations in and around ellenville. I have been to the upper wurtsboro mine. And would love to come back and visit in a week or two. Please help:)


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