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Blue rhodochrosite?

Posted by Adam Kelly  
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October 24, 2010 09:30PM
    
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October 25, 2010 12:54AM
Just because I see an elephant and call it a MacroMouse(tm) for marketing purposes does not make it a mouse. The seller in question clearly either (1) has no idea what rhodochrosite is, (2) has dyed the rhodochrosite, or (3) does know what rhodochrosite is but hopes to make a quick buck off someone who doesn't know what rhodochrosite is.
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October 25, 2010 04:48AM
Looks like dyed blue agate to me.

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Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
October 28, 2010 12:21AM
Hi all;

Looks like dyed cave onyx, to me. Did anyone notice that sales of this items can be to anywhere but China & Italy? Could it be that the sales laws are MUCH tougher, in those countries, which is why they can't sell this to them? I vote that they are deliberately scamming; no "accidental mis-ID" for these folks.
Your friend, Steve
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October 28, 2010 12:51AM
    
Steve - could you expand on the topic of the sales laws in China and Italy, please? What are the regulations and how are they enforced?

thanks from a naive listener
Maggie
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October 28, 2010 02:13AM
    
Remember, were not the eBay police here!
Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
October 28, 2010 04:01AM
Note that the second item's location is given as "N.T, United States" (New Tork? North Takota?), but "It will be shipped from Hong Kong by standard air mail."
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October 28, 2010 11:43AM
Hi

Ignore it and maybe it will go away

Cheers
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October 28, 2010 01:08PM
next thing you know, they'll be selling "piratized gold"(sic) maybe from Somalia ...;)

auplater



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2010 01:29PM by John Lichtenberger.
Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
October 28, 2010 02:55PM
Steven and Maggie, no no, we also welcome the scams to us here in Italy ... Seriously, there are no laws so hard to prohibit to buy one thing rather than another. Perhaps I think the distrust of this dealer one in our postal service, due to previous bad experiences (probably lost in shipping goods to China and Italy). Sure, it has not the right idea of what is a rodochrosite!!! It looks to me more like a banded blue (cuprian) aragonite, from China or Africa. Regards.
Simone Citon



Simone Citon
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October 28, 2010 03:11PM
    
Simone,

could it be that the design, beauteous as it might be, was ripped off some Italian company, and they simply do not want to risk repercussions?
China is funny, because they are in China, Hong Kong being part of it last time I checked! :)

Branko

P.S.: I have not had any problems with Italian postal services in 20 years of trading specimens with Italian collectors.
Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
October 28, 2010 04:19PM
Mmmh, the design is not so exclusive...To me is a "postal" question, perhaps about the customs rules. No problem within the Europe, yes, but from USA can be problematic. An american dealer, or from other countries in the world, can see return back a package sent via insured mail, if not declarated and described as required by the italian customs. However, I am also an ebayer, I'm going to send these questions:
Interesting article, but Rhodochrosite should not be pink or red? Why is it blue? You can send in Italy?
What do you think Branko?
Simone

Simone Citon
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October 28, 2010 04:25PM
In China, they seem to have a habit of shooting people in the more egregious cases. If they got the wrong person ticked off at them....
Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
October 28, 2010 06:22PM
This the response from sunsun138:

"Thank for asking the question. Yes, I feel very suprise to know that have a blue colour from my supplier. I bought this special gemstone pendant immediate and want to share with my buyer. Of course, I am willing to send it to Italy. ** Enjoy shopping."

the seller seems in good faith, but I do not have the courage to respond by saying that the terms of manganese do not give blue colours...

Simone

Simone Citon
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October 28, 2010 08:49PM
The second one definitely looks like blue lace agate from Africa. The first might be but is hard to tell, maybe dyed something.
Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
October 29, 2010 08:14AM
"Man-made" is for the oval or the material? Yes, looks like coloured Chalcedony. The name Blue Rhodochrosite is perhaps only for the analogy with the banded Rhodo from Argentina. Simone

Simone Citon
Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
February 19, 2012 07:46AM
    
Amazing, blue coloured rhodos found in Nesquen/Argentinia. The mineralogy is full of astonishments.

Uwe Ludwig
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February 19, 2012 08:16AM
OK, sorry, but I'm confused -- the linked article says, "Interestingly enough, there is another argentinian locality in the Nesquen province, where large blue celestite stalagtites are found, which closely resemble the Capillitas rhodochrosite stalagtites, but are of fine blue colour !"

Was the point that there's a potential for confusion?

D.
Re: Blue rhodochrosite?
February 19, 2012 11:06AM
    
Thanks Don, now it is clear and my understandment for the mineralogy is on the right way again. In German we have another word for celestine which of course is often light blue.
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