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Another "just glass"
Posted by Mark Heintzelman
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Another "just glass" July 29, 2012 04:25AM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 472 |
Seems no way to keep these heally feelies from ripping folks off selling chunks of decorative aquarium glass. Here is yet another, supposedly "chlorite quartz" from of all places, western pennsylvania (yeah, right). Good to be generally suspicious of sellers like these. They simply haven't a clue what they are selling, or simply don't care.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2012 04:34AM by Mark Heintzelman.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2012 04:34AM by Mark Heintzelman.
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Re: Another "just glass" July 29, 2012 12:03PM |
Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 647 |
Item withdrawn from sale. Presumably you or some other good person pointed out the error to the seller. Poking about in the seller's record and other items, this one looks like a 'clueless' rather than a con artist. If one shops in a flea market then Caveat Emptor! At least e-Bay's buyer protection scheme would have covered any purchaser.
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Re: Another "just glass" July 29, 2012 07:15PM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 472 |
Agreed, more clueless than crook. Problem is this stuff shows up time and time again and it goes unaddressed as ebay has no vetting process whatsoever.
I've tried to address this kinda stuff to ebay many times, but still the only thing they ACTUALLY care about is if the vendor is selling banned or dangerous, counterfeit brand name goods or are drawing customers off their site to other vending sites. They may include an option for misrepresentation, but it is a false option as the third step to contact them MUST include one of the above complaints or you can't even contact them ??!!! ~sigh~
Still, it is pretty arrogant to find something, decide for yourself what it is and try to sell it as such.
Points for honesty, but the black marks for ignorance and arrogance stand.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2012 07:20PM by Mark Heintzelman.
I've tried to address this kinda stuff to ebay many times, but still the only thing they ACTUALLY care about is if the vendor is selling banned or dangerous, counterfeit brand name goods or are drawing customers off their site to other vending sites. They may include an option for misrepresentation, but it is a false option as the third step to contact them MUST include one of the above complaints or you can't even contact them ??!!! ~sigh~
Still, it is pretty arrogant to find something, decide for yourself what it is and try to sell it as such.
Points for honesty, but the black marks for ignorance and arrogance stand.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2012 07:20PM by Mark Heintzelman.
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Re: Another "just glass" July 29, 2012 09:24PM |
Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 647 |
Or did (s)he simply accept in good faith what she was told by some other person? It's clear that she's no mineral dealer nor pretends to be such. Yet the (wrong) description of 'Chlorite inclusion' says that *someone* knew some buzzwords. I'm charitable enough to think it was not her. People like flea markets, car boot sales etc. Sometime one can get very good value for money - and sometimes a disappointment. Most who trawl at these things do so for the fun and not for the seriousness of the buying. Never mind about e-Bay, you should have seen the amount of the 'tat' at SMAM!
12.99 for a chunk of glass implied to have an aura is hardly worse than a multi-million-pound advertising campaign for a beer 'that reaches the parts that other beers can't reach'.
A friend once told me that she could see my aura and it was orange. I keep asking people whether this is good or bad. None have yet stopped laughing for long enough to give me an opinion....
12.99 for a chunk of glass implied to have an aura is hardly worse than a multi-million-pound advertising campaign for a beer 'that reaches the parts that other beers can't reach'.
A friend once told me that she could see my aura and it was orange. I keep asking people whether this is good or bad. None have yet stopped laughing for long enough to give me an opinion....
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Re: Another "just glass" July 29, 2012 09:34PM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 5,814 |
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Re: Another "just glass" July 29, 2012 11:06PM |
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Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 761 |
Second one from same seller
Metallic NON-MAGNETIC Hard Mineral Rock Found in Pennsylvania
more ignorance of rocks on ebay
Accuracy in selling doesn't count as much as making a sale,,, sad.
Metallic NON-MAGNETIC Hard Mineral Rock Found in Pennsylvania
more ignorance of rocks on ebay
Accuracy in selling doesn't count as much as making a sale,,, sad.
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Re: Another "just glass" July 29, 2012 11:19PM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 5,814 |
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Re: Another "just glass" July 30, 2012 11:02PM |
Registered: 9 months ago Posts: 2 |
Wayne,
I saw that ebay post when I followed Mark's link on this thread. On this one the seller says "No Idea!!!!" He asks $5. Not so much for a cool rock. I have a bunch of utterly cool rocks I wouldn't sell for $100 but they have no mineral value.
1) Is there a difference to you that he admits he has no idea what it is? (Or is he DQ'd because he made an outrageous claim on his other post?)
2) What do you think the object is? pyrite coating? Lava extrusion? slag?
and 3) Can you see the Egyptian pharoah in the piece of glass?
It looks more like a gibbon to me.
I saw that ebay post when I followed Mark's link on this thread. On this one the seller says "No Idea!!!!" He asks $5. Not so much for a cool rock. I have a bunch of utterly cool rocks I wouldn't sell for $100 but they have no mineral value.
1) Is there a difference to you that he admits he has no idea what it is? (Or is he DQ'd because he made an outrageous claim on his other post?)
2) What do you think the object is? pyrite coating? Lava extrusion? slag?
and 3) Can you see the Egyptian pharoah in the piece of glass?
It looks more like a gibbon to me.
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Re: Another "just glass" July 31, 2012 02:18AM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 472 |
Mind if I chime in on that Heidi?
1). Nobel effort on the sellers part, but sadly they still get it wrong. It's not a mineral or a rock at all.
2). It's actually slag, the waist product of a furnace. The bubbles are a dead give away.
3). Not sure why they even mention that, does the sellers vivid imagination it make the item itself more interesting? I hope not but for some people. . . .
Maybe the spirit of some long dead pharoh of Egypt has been entombed in this "item", increasing it's channelling, spiritual, what have you, powers?
personally I think the only powers in evidence here is the power of suggestion.
1). Nobel effort on the sellers part, but sadly they still get it wrong. It's not a mineral or a rock at all.
2). It's actually slag, the waist product of a furnace. The bubbles are a dead give away.
3). Not sure why they even mention that, does the sellers vivid imagination it make the item itself more interesting? I hope not but for some people. . . .
Maybe the spirit of some long dead pharoh of Egypt has been entombed in this "item", increasing it's channelling, spiritual, what have you, powers?
personally I think the only powers in evidence here is the power of suggestion.
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Re: Another "just glass" July 31, 2012 10:40AM |
Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 647 |
Mark Heintzelman Wrote:
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>...... powers?
> personally I think the only powers in evidence
> here is the power of suggestion.
Quite right - but, for some, real none the less, so it seems.
Research into the placebo effect is still in its infancy, However, it's now generally accepted that many (but but no means all) are helped through the alleviation of symptoms by the administration of placebos. There is even some evidence that placebo effect even extends to placebo surgery (an incision is made, nothing else done and the incision sewn up again). How else can there be a mass market in quack treatments for uncomfortable conditions, such as arthritis, which are very common and for which there is no cure?
Belief systems of all sorts exert a pronounced effect in some but not in all. I place the healing and other powers of stones in this same category. Don't work for me but, hey, whatever floats your boat, man
Provided the boat does float - which, in my case, it never does 
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2012 04:43PM by Owen Lewis (2).
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>...... powers?
> personally I think the only powers in evidence
> here is the power of suggestion.
Quite right - but, for some, real none the less, so it seems.
Research into the placebo effect is still in its infancy, However, it's now generally accepted that many (but but no means all) are helped through the alleviation of symptoms by the administration of placebos. There is even some evidence that placebo effect even extends to placebo surgery (an incision is made, nothing else done and the incision sewn up again). How else can there be a mass market in quack treatments for uncomfortable conditions, such as arthritis, which are very common and for which there is no cure?
Belief systems of all sorts exert a pronounced effect in some but not in all. I place the healing and other powers of stones in this same category. Don't work for me but, hey, whatever floats your boat, man
Provided the boat does float - which, in my case, it never does 
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2012 04:43PM by Owen Lewis (2).
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Re: Another "just glass" July 31, 2012 02:45PM |
Registered: 9 months ago Posts: 2 |
I adore Pareidolia but I *see* it for what it is. Tell me to go find you a face in that pile of rocks, and I'll be back in 5 minutes with something amusing. People who are fooled by it are unaware how easy it can be to find facial triggers in our visual perceptions. They perceive a one-of-a-kind experience and then overlay that experience with a spiritual dimension seeing Jesus where we might see Yogi Bear. Myself, I am always irked by people who capitalize on that unfortunate impulse, but I suppose the person who spent $28000 on the magic cheese sandwich had nothing better to do with their money. It's hard to feel sorry for that level of stupid. If the messiah was to return, why oh why would he leave spiritual signs of himself in wonder bread and american processed cheese food?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2012 02:50PM by Heidi Good.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2012 02:50PM by Heidi Good.
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