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Trying to figure out if I have a fake

Posted by Kali Blaze  
avatar Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 18, 2012 04:16PM
I know Tim personally and that is just his sense of humour, which by the way I find very funny!
Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 18, 2012 07:37PM
I don't know Tim personally but very much enjoy the sense of humor exhibited in his posts....

Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 19, 2012 02:51PM
I don't find mocking (public or private) of other people to be funny... no matter where it happens or by whom.


Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 19, 2012 03:34PM
Jim, where were you when I needed you, when I said dowsing appears to work for some people, that a small rock pick is a handy tool, and several other times when I've been mocked? I know Jolyon removes posts that go over the top, but it does take a bit of a thick skin to post here sometimes. I'll be looking for backup next time I get all mystical.
Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 19, 2012 04:10PM
Jim Houran,

I don't find attempts to stifle the free speech rights of other people to be appropriate... no matter where it happens or by whom.

Regardless, it's not up to you or I to determine what is and what isn't appropriate speech here in the forums - that's the job of the Mindat Administrators.

So how about we let the Admins do the policing and instead the rest of us focus on more mineral-related topics. smiling smiley

Kelly Nash,

If you're going to "get all mystical" in a forum whose focus is hard science, then you should probably expect the skeptics here to be particularly incredulous. winking smiley
Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 19, 2012 06:11PM

Sorry I didn't see your posts or the negativity that followed. Had I seen anyone ridicule you, I would've spoken up as well!


You don't seem to understand that Mindat doesn't have "anything goes free speech rights"...

You also seem to miss my point... people can hold personal opinions, but that doesn't give them to "right" to ridicule and mock on Mindat. I'm all for focusing on mineral-related topics, which is why I confronted this unacceptable behavior on a website that is supposed to stand for education, not personal ridicule directed at people asking legitimate questions.

When I see mocking behavior not being confronted by Mindat admin, then it should be the "job" of its membership to police bad behavior that reflects poorly on the culture of the site. Mindat is a community. And mocking others is not a discussion of "hard science, so when it happens you should probably expect the skeptics here to be particularly incredulous :)


Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 19, 2012 08:04PM
Jim Houran wrote, "Having personal opinions is fine, but expressing them in a manner that disrespects others should be immediately confronted here." and "I confronted this unacceptable behavior".

Jolyon, creator of Mindat wrote:
"We have a few basic rules about the use of this site that I need to make clear again here:2. No offensive, abusive, rude or overly-confrontational behaviour."

Enough said.
Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 22, 2012 05:27AM
Well, if it's any comfort, I didn't take offense at the comments. Roll my eyes? Yes. But then, it sounds like several people did that when I asked what I asked.

Look, guys, this sort of thing isn't my taste either. I prefer a good piece of lapis or malachite, and I've got a particular soft spot for pale blue sapphires, and lately I've been doing a lot of low-end labradorite. I want a good finish on my stones, but I don't like dyed stones. I bought it to make a piece from because right now, this stuff sells. I suppose it doesn't bother me as much as the dyed stones because with these, there is no attempt to pass them as anything but altered stones. As an artist with a very limited budget, I often can't afford the stones I'd like to work with, and I need to make a return on what I make - better yet, generate some attention towards my work. If that means I have to use what is 'in', so be it. The buyer wants what the buyer wants, and my tastes being different from theirs won't change that.

I just wanted to be accurate about what I was using. People are going to expect better longevity out of a titanium-coated piece than a painted piece.

As things stand, because of the blank back and my nerves about whether this is titanium-coated or painted, I may just make it into a pendant to be a gift for my sister. She'd like this sort of thing. (In all seriousness, when buying gifts for her, I often look at things and go 'What here is the farthest from my tastes?')

avatar Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 22, 2012 10:27AM
Thanks Kali,

I'm glad my comments were not taken the wrong way.

I don't think that it's possible it could have been painted with anything to create the effect you see, but one possibility is that it has been coated in the normal way as aqua-aura quartz is, and then protected with a layer of lacquer or similar.
avatar Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 22, 2012 10:35AM

1. If you are interested in the rules of behaviour on, please remember that we request contributors do not use pseudonyms and use full, real names on the site. This rule is not enforced for those who make infrequent contributions on the board, or those who have just come to ask a simple question. But for those who are regular contributors or who want to get involved in serious debates about how the community behaves, it's essential.

If you make comments, you should stand behind them. Anonymous comments on the internet lead inevitably lead to bad behaviour.

2. You are confronting the comments made by Jim Houran. Your point is therefore invalid. Whether you think the comments made previously were disrespectul or not, Jim has every right to make the comments he did because he wants our community to be a more friendly and harmonious place.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/22/2012 01:32PM by Jolyon Ralph.
avatar Re: Trying to figure out if I have a fake
August 22, 2012 12:24PM
What's pretty is in the eye of the beholder. After all, faceted diamonds have been modifed by humans. Why aren't we satisfied with natural diamonds? There are well-faceted diamonds and poorly-facted diamonds. So, do we have well-done "fakes" and poorly-done "fakes"? The argument is the same.
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