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lapidary noob- removing saw oil?
Posted by Greg Capatch
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lapidary noob- removing saw oil? April 13, 2011 02:08PM |
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Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 60 |
Hi all.
Just acquired some minerals that are already slabbed- and want to know the best process for removing saw oil from specimens that have had a covering on them for years (no joke- years). Have some small pieces of really high end sugilite that I want to salvage if at all possible. Have them soaking in Dawn dishwashing liquid atm- but it is barely making a dent- this stuff is thick and gooey. Any help on what I can use without ruining the specimens is appreciated.
Just acquired some minerals that are already slabbed- and want to know the best process for removing saw oil from specimens that have had a covering on them for years (no joke- years). Have some small pieces of really high end sugilite that I want to salvage if at all possible. Have them soaking in Dawn dishwashing liquid atm- but it is barely making a dent- this stuff is thick and gooey. Any help on what I can use without ruining the specimens is appreciated.
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? April 13, 2011 03:56PM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 46 |
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? April 13, 2011 04:28PM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 118 |
Three steps for removing saw oil from stones:
1) Wash thoroughly with Dawn dish soap (You've done that)
2) Place your pieces in kitty litter and cover - leave for 2 or 3 days)
3) "Bake" the pieces in an oven set at 250 degrees F for 4 hours (the temp can be increased with the time decreased, however, this increase in temp may places your stones in danger of fracturing (or exploding) . The oven will have to be placed outside, or in a well ventilated area as this step produces much smoke and fumes from the oil burning off.
I work in a commercial lapidary shop finishing fossil wood specimens and this is the process that we use.
Hope that this helps,
Jake
All knowledge is vain, except where there be work
All work is empty except where there be love
1) Wash thoroughly with Dawn dish soap (You've done that)
2) Place your pieces in kitty litter and cover - leave for 2 or 3 days)
3) "Bake" the pieces in an oven set at 250 degrees F for 4 hours (the temp can be increased with the time decreased, however, this increase in temp may places your stones in danger of fracturing (or exploding) . The oven will have to be placed outside, or in a well ventilated area as this step produces much smoke and fumes from the oil burning off.
I work in a commercial lapidary shop finishing fossil wood specimens and this is the process that we use.
Hope that this helps,
Jake
All knowledge is vain, except where there be work
All work is empty except where there be love
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? April 14, 2011 02:10AM |
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Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 60 |
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? April 14, 2011 04:09AM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 707 |
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? April 14, 2011 04:13AM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 118 |
Yes, the cat litter is highly absorbent as well as is dry sweep, sand and many other products. As for baking, the sun can be a useful tool in removing oil from specimens when left exposed to it for an extended period. Also, small toaster ovens have been used with success as well -- anything to get that 250F.
Jake
All knowledge is vain, except where there be work
All work is empty except where there be love
Jake
All knowledge is vain, except where there be work
All work is empty except where there be love
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? April 14, 2011 12:10PM |
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Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 60 |
Jake, I thought about a toaster oven- but the process would take forever. I have hundreds of slabs here that need to be cleaned up. Just want to get most of it off so that when I start the finishing process I don't goo up my equipment. Jim, I use palmolive on my dishes- but also being a competitive cyclist for many years- and having to clean chains and cogs and road grime on a regular basis- it is pretty much a universal opinion in the cycling community that Dawn cuts oil better than any other dish detergent. Might want to give it a try and see what you think.
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Don Hixson
Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? May 01, 2011 06:25PM |
Hi Greg
This Idea might not help with your heavy oil problem but here is what I do. I go to the dollar store and get a bottle of dish soap any color will do. Some smell better than others. Put a gallon of water in a bucket and the bottle of soap. I drop my slabs from the saw into the bucket and let them soak or until when I drop a slab in and the soap will no longer cover them. Rinse with water and the oil is gone. One bottle of soap will clean about fifty slabs from my 14 inch saw.
Don
This Idea might not help with your heavy oil problem but here is what I do. I go to the dollar store and get a bottle of dish soap any color will do. Some smell better than others. Put a gallon of water in a bucket and the bottle of soap. I drop my slabs from the saw into the bucket and let them soak or until when I drop a slab in and the soap will no longer cover them. Rinse with water and the oil is gone. One bottle of soap will clean about fifty slabs from my 14 inch saw.
Don
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? May 01, 2011 11:05PM |
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Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 320 |
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? May 02, 2011 12:58AM |
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Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 118 |
Absolutely, Dennis.
Heat (in my opinion) is the most effective, foolproof tool of all for completely removing saw oil. A porous specimen, or specimen with fine fractures will still hold oils after any amount of soaking and scrubbing. If you are polishing slabs, or face-cut specimens such as agate nodules, any residual oil left behind in those fractures could likely drag across the face of the piece without end -- and at the same time contaminate the pad, lap or wheel you are using.
Jake
All knowledge is vain, except where there be work
All work is empty except where there be love
Heat (in my opinion) is the most effective, foolproof tool of all for completely removing saw oil. A porous specimen, or specimen with fine fractures will still hold oils after any amount of soaking and scrubbing. If you are polishing slabs, or face-cut specimens such as agate nodules, any residual oil left behind in those fractures could likely drag across the face of the piece without end -- and at the same time contaminate the pad, lap or wheel you are using.
Jake
All knowledge is vain, except where there be work
All work is empty except where there be love
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Re: lapidary noob- removing saw oil? May 02, 2011 06:13PM |
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Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 60 |
All of the specimens are as clean as I can get them using detergent and scrubbing. I live in the desert, and the sun is intense here, even at this time of year. Tomorrow it starts to warm up again and will be close to 80 degrees. The 10 day forecast is for warm temperatures (80 degrees plus or minus) and no rain. How long would you guys recommend leaving them out in the sun? Would placing them on cookie sheets speed the process? My lap stations will all be up and running by the end of the week, and I want to start 'playing' :) I have some rough here that is free of oil, and can start with that- but really would like to polish some of these high end slabs in the near future. Any further advice is appreciated.
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