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Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia".
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Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia". June 30, 2012 06:39PM |
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Re: Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia". June 30, 2012 08:17PM |
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Paolo,
Can you explain to me what is elestial quartz? I believe the name "elestial" is a new age/metaphysical name and though we have bought and sold tons of quartz crystals, not a few of them that have been called elestial by our customers, I have never been able to understand to my satisfaction just exactly the meaning of the word.
Our search engine here on mindat is pretty good, but it could be better. When images are up loaded the uploader can classify their images with a limited number of tags like the name of the species, locality etc, but the choices are quite limited, though in the future we hope to make them more extensive. Since this site leans more toward the scientific rather than the metaphysical it is unlikely any of the images of quartz were described as elestial even in their captions. You might try searching the captions for the word of elestial, but you may get few or no hits.
Can any one tell us the origin of the work elestial? or who coined this word? It is in common enough use that we should probably try and put it in our glossary.
Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2012 08:19PM by Rock Currier.
Can you explain to me what is elestial quartz? I believe the name "elestial" is a new age/metaphysical name and though we have bought and sold tons of quartz crystals, not a few of them that have been called elestial by our customers, I have never been able to understand to my satisfaction just exactly the meaning of the word.
Our search engine here on mindat is pretty good, but it could be better. When images are up loaded the uploader can classify their images with a limited number of tags like the name of the species, locality etc, but the choices are quite limited, though in the future we hope to make them more extensive. Since this site leans more toward the scientific rather than the metaphysical it is unlikely any of the images of quartz were described as elestial even in their captions. You might try searching the captions for the word of elestial, but you may get few or no hits.
Can any one tell us the origin of the work elestial? or who coined this word? It is in common enough use that we should probably try and put it in our glossary.
Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2012 08:19PM by Rock Currier.
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Re: Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia". June 30, 2012 10:51PM |
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Re: Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia". June 30, 2012 11:41PM |
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"Elestial" quartz are smoky quartz crystals with fluid inclusions; the metaphysical people believe that it combines 4 elements: the stone (represented by the quartz itself), the fire (represented by the smoky color), the water and the air (that are present in the biphasic liquid-gas inclusions), and this combination of the 4 elements transmit to the quartz special properties that I don't know exactly what they are; even if the biphasic inclusions cannot be seen by naked eye, but only under a loupe or a microscope, the piece is an elestial; so all "alligator quartz" from Brazil, all smoky/amethyst quartz from Brandberg, are elestials.
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Re: Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia". June 30, 2012 11:48PM |
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Luiz stated:
"this combination of the 4 elements transmit to the quartz special properties that I don't know exactly what they are."
It's really simple. This unique combination of physical states and characteristics imparts all the powers of the 3 realms of Albarzar, namely, it acts as a very powerful laxative at the least.
"this combination of the 4 elements transmit to the quartz special properties that I don't know exactly what they are."
It's really simple. This unique combination of physical states and characteristics imparts all the powers of the 3 realms of Albarzar, namely, it acts as a very powerful laxative at the least.
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Re: Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia". July 01, 2012 10:33AM |
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Re: Quartz elestial, "a tramoggia". July 01, 2012 01:21PM |
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Luiz Alberto Dias Menezes, Fo. Wrote:
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> the fire (represented by the smoky color)
Interesting interpretation of radiation damage.
Learning something new every day.
But the connection to the Four Elements (Earth, Wind, Fire, Water) seems to be a bit streched to me.
I mean, there are much better examples of things that represent the 4 Elements, no need to get a crystal for that.
Like, if I had a lot of hot Mexican food, is the energetic combination of earth, wind, fire and water that desperately wants to get out "elestial"? And after I'm done (all out), do I have to turn around and kneel before it or something?
I doubt it.
I couldn't even sell the stuff, biphasic or not.
So there must be more to the term, I am sure we haven't got to its essence yet.
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> the fire (represented by the smoky color)
Interesting interpretation of radiation damage.
Learning something new every day.
But the connection to the Four Elements (Earth, Wind, Fire, Water) seems to be a bit streched to me.
I mean, there are much better examples of things that represent the 4 Elements, no need to get a crystal for that.
Like, if I had a lot of hot Mexican food, is the energetic combination of earth, wind, fire and water that desperately wants to get out "elestial"? And after I'm done (all out), do I have to turn around and kneel before it or something?
I doubt it.
I couldn't even sell the stuff, biphasic or not.
So there must be more to the term, I am sure we haven't got to its essence yet.
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