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EducationPegmatite classification?
12th Jan 2012 16:38 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
12th Jan 2012 17:26 UTCDon Saathoff Expert
Don
12th Jan 2012 18:37 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
Thank you for your reply. Certainly in the literature there does not seem to be any disagreement as to the coarse grained nature of a pegmatite, just the rest of it is not clear. My confusion comes from terminology commonly used to describe these things, some of which you have used here. For example the term " Pegmatitic intrusion" - does this mean that the term intrusion does not have to mean a magmatic intrusion? "Pegmatitic dykes" My understanding of what is a dyke is that it is a relatively thin steeply inclined magmatic intrusive, as such wouldn't "pegmatitic dyke" be an oxymoron? Or is there such a thing as a hydrothermal dyke?
12th Jan 2012 19:04 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager
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http://pegmatopia.ou.edu/
12th Jan 2012 20:22 UTCNate (Nate {Not Given})
12th Jan 2012 20:46 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert
On page 4 he discusses the original meaning, then gives a redefinition and explains why. His recommended "descriptive definition suitable for field identification" is:
"an essentially igneous rock, commonly of granitic composition, that is distinguished from other igneous rocks by its extremely coarse but variable grain size, or by an abundance of crystals with skeletal, graphic, or other strongly directional growth-habits. Pegmatites occur as sharply bounded homogenous to zoned bodies within igneous or metamorphic host-rocks."
He is purposefully ambiguous regarding "essentially" - leaving room for some hydrothermal effects, and "mostly of granitic composition", leaving room for non-granitic mineral assemblages (zones) within (such as lithium mineral assemblages) and rarer ultramafic, mafic, syenitic and carbonatitic (aka "calcite vein dike") igneous rock compositions. But not ambiguous about the textures and directional growth habit portions.
That's the short version, if you are seriously interested in pegmatites, you need the book.
12th Jan 2012 21:46 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
Hello Nate,
Have never heard the term pegmatic before, why not just say coarse grained and leave any possibility of confusion with a pegmatite out of it?
12th Jan 2012 21:49 UTCScott L. Ritchie Expert
There are lot's of different pegmatite bodies out there... some deposits or formations appear more like veins, lenses, pipes, dykes or pods. Some pegmatites are very complex, and contain zones of mineralization that range from greisen to migmatite and granite within the same body. Although pegmatites are usually found within the outer margins of intrusive type rock bodies, there is no conclusive evidence that points to the veins themselves having been intruded through faults or joints within the country rock. Structural control features within the host rock usually factor into the genesis of the typical formation, but most pegmatites appear to be the distinct product of metasomatism.
Scott
13th Jan 2012 01:45 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
13th Jan 2012 02:33 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert
I think Nate meant to say "pegmatitic" earlier, not "pegmatic".
Scott, after reading London (2008), I dont see how you can state that "most pegmatites appear to be the distinct product of metasomatism"; they are igneous melts. Pegmatites may be internally metasomatized by some of the last fluids to crystallize (forming pseudomorphs of some earlier crystals) and the pegmatite magma may metasomatize the host rock to some degree, but pegmatites don't originate from metasomatism.
13th Jan 2012 03:22 UTCJim Bean 🌟
13th Jan 2012 08:31 UTCScott L. Ritchie Expert
There are many hypothesis out there, and that's good.
Metasomatism is the chemical alteration of a rock by hydrothermal and other fluids. Metasomatism can occur via the action of hydrothermal fluids from an igneous or metamorphic source. Because metamorphism usually requires water in order to facilitate metamorphic reactions, metasomatism and metamorphism nearly always occur together.
Most modern geophysical studies in southern California have concluded that the age of the country rock and pegmatites are coveal. The textural and structural differences of the pegmatite and immediately surrounding country rock are most likely a result of complex metasomatism from subduction-fed magmatism. The process is thought to be caused by shallow intrusive injections of diabase or gabbro into highly water saturated felsic granites such as granodiorite in the upper continental crust, thereby metamorphosing and chemically altering the rock along proto-rift zones and ancient rift zone margins, resulting in the formation of concentric bands or long belts of xenolithic gabbro and simple aplitic to complex zoned pegmatic rocks.
Since the term 'dike' is an intrusion into an opening cross-cutting fissure, this would imply that it is always younger than the rocks that contain it - but since the pegmatites in our area are the same age as the rock, and they are often closely associated with stringers, stockworks and greisens, the use of the term vein to describe these features seems more accurate... at least most of the time. It's important to note, that many tourmaline-bearing hydrothermal quartz and gold veins are closely associated with tourmaline-bearing aplites and pegmatites.
Cheers,
Scott
13th Jan 2012 14:59 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
What prompted me to post this thread was that I was trying to come to a clear understanding of what is meant by the term "Pegmatite Dike" when used as a name for a rock. If one had in drill core a short (1-2m) coarse grained felsic igneous rock intersection with parallel contacts, within granodiorite, considering what as been said thus far, how would one determine whether it is a "pegmatite dike" as opposed to a xenolith ? Unless one could distinguish zoning parallel to the contacts there wouldn't be any way of knowing would there?
Assuming it were not a xenolith, I also have trouble with the use of the term dike as it would not be possible to rule out a sill based on only a single drillhole and no outcrop, so wouldn't the term "dike" be presumptuous? Secondly, it seems to me that the term pegmatite in itself is not a rock type but a textural/genetic term that requires an adjective such as Granite to be a proper rock type. What do you think?
Along this same line, how about a fine grained felsic igneous rock intersection rather than a coarse grained one, any way of knowing whether it was a dyke or xenolith?
13th Jan 2012 15:30 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert
All of the pegmatites I have experience with (New England, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia, Colorado, Canada) are clearly cross-cutting dikes from igneous intrusions. As a geologist, I find what you describe to be very interesting , but appears to be limited to your area and apparently does not fit London's definition of most pegmatites. London carefully included the section of his definition that says, "an abundance of crystals with skeletal, graphic, or other strongly directional growth-habits ." He says only igneous melts can produce this texture, not hydrothermal or metasomatic rocks. Anyway, you clearly know far more about the fascinating geology of southern California than I do, and London knows far more about pegmatites than I do. Take a look at the book, maybe he's missed something regarding the rocks you describe?
Thanks
Harold
13th Jan 2012 16:40 UTCKeith Wood
When I did my Masters thesis on pegmatites in 1996, the emerging science was swinging away from the idea of pegmatite-forming melts being water saturated. Lots of studies point in that direction now. Some of the best indicators are that when pegmatites intrude ultramafic rocks like dunite, most of the water in the melt gets taken up by the formation of hydrous minerals like biotite and amphiboles along the wallrock contact. But when the volumes are considered there is not enough water represented in those minerals for the melt to have been saturated with water. They are undersaturated at the time of emplacement. The mechanisms that lead to coarse crystallization have more to do with the temperatures of the melt and of the enclosing host rocks, and additionally the presence of incompatible elements like fluorine, boron, and phosphorus.
Pegmatites can reach water saturation late in their crystallization but they do not always do so. When it happens it can give rise to the pockets we love so much, but it is a late thing.
13th Jan 2012 18:03 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
"when pegmatites intrude ultramafic rocks like dunite, most of the water in the melt gets taken up by the formation of hydrous minerals like biotite and amphiboles along the wallrock contact." How would they know that? I imagine that this may be true in some cases, but I can't imagine that the water content of all melts would be the same. My impression so far is that there is a great deal of variation in how these can form, with no hard and fast rules.
14th Jan 2012 00:01 UTCDean Allum Expert
Here is another link to a popular pegmatologist page:
PIG
If your summers were not so busy, you could take a class in pegmatology:
http://homepage.mac.com/rasprague/PegShop/intro.html
And here is a paper from a leading pegmatologist about different classifications:
PEG Classifications
Although it is region specific, my favorite pegmatite document contains a lot of general information:
South Platte PEGs
The authors seem to use "pegmatite dike" to mean a small linear 'wannabe pegmatitic' region containing large quartz and feldspars crystals, but nothing else interesting.
I would also suggest that pegmatite occurrence is not due just to water, but any other chemical species such as fluorine or lithium which can lower the granitic melt's solidification temperature and allow larger crystals to grow.
Regards,
Dean Allum
14th Jan 2012 02:53 UTCKeith Wood
That's a really good question. They can know that because they can calculate the water content of the hydrous minerals and compare it to the other introduced constituents. It's called mass balancing and it is a common practice when melt-rock or rock-rock interactions take place. A dunite, for instance, would contain miniscule amounts of potassium and water, so after the pegmatite intrudes, the amount of potassium and water in the biotite can serve as a reference for how much potassium and water there was in the original melt. It involves some assumptions about volumes, but when balanced across numerous elements the conclusions can be pretty tight, to within a weight percent of the correct water content with a pretty small error bar. And since solubility of water in granitic melts is well understood as a function of temperature and pressure it has become apparent that the melts are water undersaturated at the time of initial intrusion. They can evolve to water saturation later, but many don't because they begin crystallizing hydrous minerals like micas that take up a lot of the water, or the water goes into the wallrocks altering the mineral assemblages there.
Hope this helps.
14th Jan 2012 02:53 UTCKeith Wood
14th Jan 2012 03:53 UTCIan Merkel
London did a lot of research at the Little Three mine in So Cal, so he classifies the So Cal PEG's as magmatic intrusions as well.
Reiner,
Pegmatite dike is like saying a coarse grained dike...., you are right that you would need a rock ID based on mineralogy to completely name the dike. You should look for directional growth from the contacts with the host rock or chill margins to better determine if you have intersected a dike or something else in your drill hole.
And Keith is correct. The only recent (in the past 15 years) research all agree that granite pegmatites (or any other for that matter) are not enriched in volitiles but instead are a funtion of super saturation (undercooling) and fluid flux boundaries along growth fronts within the melt. Much bulk chemistry has been done. Metasomatism is a pretty old term and is really only applicabile with respect to the late stage fluid saturated cental portions that occur during the final stages of elevated temperature mineral alteration. And stating that the water was taken up by early formed hydrous minerals can be easy if it can be determined that the walls of the intrusion crystallized early and biotite or amphibole, etc..., is restricted to intrusion margins. Then if the core of the intrusion is full of anhydrous minerals it can then be deduced that the available water was taken up by early hydrous minerals.
14th Jan 2012 21:29 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
Makes sense but does this not assume a closed system and that the mineralogy of the core is only a function of available water? If all you had in the core was quartz and you had an open system you really couldn't say anything could you?
17th Jan 2012 04:02 UTCKeith Wood
But in fact you could probably say something, as the water's effect on the surrounding rocks would likely be detectable as mineralogic, fluid inclusion, and isotopic variations that would be localized and mappable to the vicinity of the pegmatite, and consistent with the chemistry and isotopes of the pegmatite. No system on Earth is open infinitely, or to put it another way, a system that is open at one scale is always closed at some larger scale.
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