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Improving Mindat.orgSpelling and Grammar Errors on Mindat

26th Jan 2012 15:08 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Please DO use this thread to post all errors related to SPELLING and GRAMMAR.


Please DO NOT use this thread to post errors related to TECHNICAL or NUMERICAL DATA (e.g. crystallography etc.)


I will do my best to fix anything that is mentioned here as soon as possible.


Vik

26th Jan 2012 16:23 UTCLászló Horváth Manager

Vik,


I am not sure if you have authority to correct mineral names, but remondite-(Ce) and -(La) should be changed to rémondite-(Ce) and -(La).


László

26th Jan 2012 21:57 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Locality designation: Gösleswand (Goslerwand), Prägraten, Virgen valley, East Tyrol, Tyrol, Austria (mindat.org/loc-19131)–the word “valley” should be capitalized.


Locality designation: Amerbach valley, Felben valley, Hohe Tauern, Salzburg, Austria

(mindat.org/loc-53385)–both occurrences of “valley” should be capitalized.


Ulexite page:


In Crystallography of Ulexite, Morphology: The second sentence contains the misspelled word “randoly” that should be “randomly.”


Clinozoisite page:


The word “volume” is misspelled in this Reference: “Holland, T.J.B., Redfern, S.A.T., and Pawley, A.R. (1996), Vlume behavior of hydrous minerals at high pressure and temperature: II. Compressibilities of lawsonite, zoisite, clinozoisite and epidote. American Mineralogist: 81: 341-348.”


Paranatrolite page:


Note this Reference: “Khomyakov, A.P., G.Y. Cherepivskaya, and M.G. Mikheeva (1986): First paranatrolite ¯nds in the USSR. Doklady Acad. Nauk SSSR, 288, 214-217 (in Russian).”


“¯nds” is a typo, but I don’t know what it is supposed to be.



Rutile page:


(This is in the crystallography section, but it simply relates to a word choice.) In Crystallography of Rutile, Twinning: “On {011} common. Often genticulated; also contact twins of very varied habit.”


The unfortunate choice of words here is “genticulated” for bent. It should be “geniculated,” which unequivocally means "bent." Genticulated has come to mean that one talks to himself or herself, although it may still be used as an alternative form for geniculate in anatomy. I'd change it!:-D

27th Jan 2012 16:37 UTCLászló Horváth Manager

Norman,


Paranatrolite: the partially missing word should be finds

27th Jan 2012 18:56 UTCDennis Tryon

I symphathize with the folks who have nothing better to do.


You could continue this into the individual posts. You would find people who can't even consistently spell their own name.


Dennis

27th Jan 2012 22:42 UTCToby Billing

Dennis, it is important on the mineral pages that everything is correct, a scientific website with many grammar and spelling errors is not on and I think that is all the above posters are checking for and fixing, everyone makes mistakes from time to time so there is a need to check.


I for one assume if there is poor spelling and sloppy sentences in a document (not talking Mindat here by the way, just general) that the author is lazy and therefore tend to disregard it, spelling is important, more so in science!

28th Jan 2012 00:36 UTCDebbie Woolf Manager

Dennis, without volunteers this site would not be what it is today, it would be full of rubbish, spelling errors & just photo's, would you consider it such an invaluable on-line resource then ? We need more people like Vik, Laszlo & Norman to step up & help correct/point out errors, it's not a job most managers can dedicate time to.


There is no need for disparaging comments for those who give up time to help correct the database.


Vik has just started up a 'good cause' here & needs encouragement & thanks goes out to anyone prepared to help.


(tu)

28th Jan 2012 01:46 UTCCraig Mercer

Lol three edits there Dennis, any spelling mistakes ? or just typo's ;-)


Regards,

Criag

Cirag

Craig....got it

28th Jan 2012 05:37 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Vik,


I presume you saw the information about the paranatrolite reference provided by Laszlo (Thanks, Laszlo!).


New stuff:

Galena page:


This sentence appears in the introductory comments: “Galena is the primary ore mineral of lead. Worked for its lead content as early as 3000 BC, it is found in ore veins with sphalerite, pyrite, chalcopyrite, fahlore etc., skarns, and in sedimentary rocks as beds or impregnations.


OK, first, there should be a comma after “fahlore.” Second, I must confess that I had never heard of “fahlore” until I read this page. Why not say “tennantite-tetrahedrite,” a term (synonym of fahlore) that 99% of us would know? Next, there is no such thing as a “bed” of galena. “Beds” refer only to material deposited as a result of sedimentary processes. A solid mass of galena may replace limestone, however, but that is a hydrothermal event, not a sedimentary event. Finally, “impregnation” is meaningless as a geological term.


I suggest rewording the pertinent sentence thus: “Worked for its lead content as early as 3000 BC, it is found in ore veins with sphalerite, pyrite, chalcopyrite, and tennantite-tetrahedrite, etc., and in skarns, as well as in sedimentary rocks where it may replace carbonate beds or be deposited in pore spaces.



Cuprite page:


This appears in Physical Properties of Cuprite, Colour: “Dark red to conchineal red, . . . " Replace “conchineal” with “cochineal.”


Ferrohornblende page:


This reference is cited: “Barnes, V.E. (1930) hanges in hornblende at about 800°. American Mineralogist: 15: 393-417.” The first word of the title should be “Changes.”


Schorl page:


This reference is cited: “Aurisicchio, C., Ottolini, L., and Pezzotta, F. (1999): Electron- and on-microprobe analyses, and genetic interferences of tourmalines of the foitite-schorl solid solution, Elba Island (Italy). Eurpean Journal of Mineralogy: 11, 217-225.” The title should be “Electron- and ion-microprobe analyses . . . .“


Antigorite page:


This appears in the introduction: “The type material was collected from outcrops of the Geisspfad serpentinite, at the border between Switzerland and Italy. It is not clear, in which country the material was sampled.” In the second sentence, delete the comma after “clear.” I suggest rewording those sentences thus: “The type material was collected near the border between Switzerland and Italy from outcrops of the Geisspfad serpentinite. It is not clear in which country the material was obtained.”

28th Jan 2012 12:42 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

fixed everything so far (including the 'finds' in the Paranatrolite entry)


Vik

1st Feb 2012 19:24 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi all,


Just to tell the POTD have a misspelling, it's the Col des BagEnelles and not BagAnelles.


I hope this helps.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

12th Feb 2012 01:21 UTCJason Evans

Irgizite, I think should be Irghizite. At least every website I look up about it has it named Irghizite.

12th Feb 2012 12:52 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

"Irgizite" - Where on mindat is it used?

12th Feb 2012 22:03 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

David,


Jason was referring to this: http://www.mindat.org/min-40460.html


Before i fixed it, it was spelled Irgizite (without the H).


I also added the latitude & longitude for the crater.


Vik

15th Feb 2012 00:47 UTCJason Evans

I noticed Irghiszite has been corrected but its still spelled Irgizite in the description of Tektites, sorry for being picky!

15th Feb 2012 03:09 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Irghizite is also spelled without the "h" in the mindat Index of Minerals.

15th Feb 2012 07:18 UTCDon Windeler

OK, I'm going to rant for a moment -- sorry.


There is a rampant misuse of the term "comprise", which (on the whole) is treated better in MinDat than most places.


Good example : "The granite from Monkeyfart Knob comprises quartz, muscovite, and potassium feldspar."

Bad example: "The granite from Monkeyfart Knob is comprised of quartz, muscovite, and potassium feldspar."


The general usage I have always hewed to is as follows:

Rock A comprises minerals X, Y, and Z.

Rock A consists of minerals X, Y, and Z.

Rock A is composed of minerals X, Y, and Z.


To keep the sedimentologists happy, "Formation A comprises units X, Y, and Z."


There is at least one mineral dealer I rather (otherwise) like to whom I have pointed this out but consistently uses this in their descriptions. Argh.


One could argue that "OK, but this has become common usage in English." Bullpuckey. That's lazy -- sort of like saying that everyone screws it up, so we might as well give up and call it good. As in "The data is in favor of this proposition". No, the data are in favor. (I continue to wage guerrilla warfare against this usage by changing it and accepting my own changes in documents I send to others when I think it will make a difference.)


Yes, I probably have better things to do with my life, but every cause needs a champion.


Cheers,

D.

15th Feb 2012 11:39 UTCJason Evans

Where is Monkeyfart Knob?

15th Feb 2012 12:28 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Some of us (we) sedimentologists are also irked every time we see "rock A is comprised of X, Y, and Z." Doesn't everyone besides Don and me (I) know that is incorrect? Unfortunately, it occurs in many texts which (that) I did not edit, people know what the author meant, and I do indeed have better things to do than try to correct every sloppy or downright incorrect grammatical construction I see. There are just too many. But I'm glad people are trying to keep we (us) sedimetologists happy.


And thank you for "data are" and "datum is." That one is even more (just as) hopeless.


* * * *


EDIT (and I bet someone out there already caught this one):


"Just as hopeless" is wrong. You are either hopeless or you have hope, so I should have written: "That one is even more (also) hopeless." It's like either being either alive or dead. There's no such thing as "slightly dead." Isn't language fun?

17th Feb 2012 03:34 UTCCraig Mercer

Probably time for sleep Norman ;-). My head hurts after that (It's like either being either alive or dead) :-S that makes me feel half dead, too many eithers. Actually I'm hoping or hopeful that there is no hopefulness and only hope, hopefully.

17th Feb 2012 14:41 UTCSteven Kittleson

Vik,


Shouldn't that be "Spelling and Grammatical Errors on Mindat"...LOL. I couldn't resist. To be honest, I'm a frequent offender also, especially in punctuation.


Steve


To absent friends...in memory...still bright.

17th Feb 2012 17:03 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Steven,


this issue might be debatable. As I understand it, there are 2 possible interpretations:


1: "Spelling", "Grammar" and "Errors" are all nouns.

2: "Spelling" and "Grammar/Grammatical" are adjectives, while "Errors" is a noun.


English is not my mother tongue (Flemish/Dutch) is, so forgive me for not remembering all of its linguistic peculiarities.


In a distant past (2003) I graduated in multilingual translation (Dutch, English, French and German), and have been using all of these languages on a daily basis, so I like to think I do catch the most obvious errors here on Mindat (when I feel like looking for them that is...).


Keep the errors coming (or rather, try not to make any more :-p), I will correct them whenever I can...


Vik

17th Feb 2012 22:20 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

It should indeed be “grammatical error.” Note that there is no adjectival form of the word “spelling.” Therefore, there cannot be a construction parallel to “grammatical error.” The phrase “spelling error” is a compound noun.


There are no rules for compound nouns. Some are normally spelled as a single word, such as housekeeper. Others are normally hyphenated, such as house-fly. Still others are two separate words, such as house detective. In these cases, however, the alternate spellings are usually acceptable. There are no general rules. You just have to know what the preferred form is. But a few compound nouns must be hyphenated, such as paper-clip, to distinguish it from paper clip, which is a clip made of paper. There are some compound nouns used in mineralogy. “Streak test” is one. In this case, it is probably clear to everyone that it isn’t spelled “streak-test” or “streaktest.”


We could say “spelling errors and grammatical errors on mindat.” Compound nouns have to stay together, so neither “spelling and grammar errors on mindat” nor “spelling and grammatical errors on mindat” is correct.


However, to be more elegant, we might say “errors in spelling and grammar on mindat.” That avoids the issue altogether, so that is the rule I would follow.


Is this silly season, or what? (silly season n: a period marked by frivolous, outlandish, or illogical activity or behavior)

17th Feb 2012 23:36 UTCMark & Linda Mahlum

I believe that authors tend to disregard, but the author tends to disregard. Isn't that correct, Toby?

27th Feb 2012 09:38 UTCOlav Revheim Manager

The formula entered for Ferronybøite is incorrect. It should read NaNa2(Fe2+3Al2)(AlSi7)(OH)2


Olav

27th Feb 2012 09:51 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Olav,


I fixed the formula for Ferronybøite (the formula for Ferric-Ferronybøite is left untouched, is this one correct or not?)


Vik

27th Feb 2012 10:46 UTCAmir C. Akhavan Expert

This can't be correct.

This mineral should almost explode when you touch it :-D

Probably just 22 oxygen atoms missing.

27th Feb 2012 10:49 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Formula changed again to add the missing oxygen!

29th Feb 2012 16:04 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

on http://www.mindat.org/min-40019.html and linked pages - naphthalene, not naphtalene

29th Feb 2012 22:59 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Naphthalene is now fixed.


Vik

10th Apr 2012 15:12 UTCHenry Minot 🌟 Expert

There is a spelling error in the following location:


"Wiscassett, Lincoln County, Maine, USA"


The correct spelling is" Wiscasset" (one t at the end, not two).


Henry Minot

Seems to have been fixed - Thanks!

17th Apr 2012 16:22 UTCAndrea Sansoni

I don`t know if this is the right place to point this out, but the correct spelling of the locality "Cozzodisi Mine" is "Cozzo Disi Mine". That is the famous sulfur mine in Sicily, the error has propagated worldwide by now but should probably be fixed.

17th Apr 2012 16:48 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

The error on the Cold des BagAnelles PODT is still there ! It's BagEnelles


I hope this helps.


Paul.

17th Apr 2012 22:26 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Renamed Cozzodisi to Cozzo Disi.


Col des Bagenelles has apparently already been fixed (see http://www.mindat.org/loc-230935.html).


Vik

29th Jan 2014 22:36 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

http://www.mindat.org


The first name in the reference should be Schlüter, not Schulter.


And "Neues Jahrbuch für ...

29th Jan 2014 23:31 UTCChester S. Lemanski, Jr.

Tomas,


Thank you! Fixed.


Chet Lemanski

2nd Sep 2014 13:47 UTCJyrki Autio Expert

On väyrynenite mineral page: "Named after Heikki Allen Väyrynen (1888-1956), professor of mineralogy, Technical High School, Helsinski (Finland).


Finnish capital shoud be Helsinki.

2nd Sep 2014 14:31 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Thanks - fixed.

3rd Sep 2014 14:18 UTCIvan Vighetto

In pedrizite page there's an occurrence of "sodicpadrizite" and two occurrences of "padrizite".

3rd Sep 2014 20:32 UTCKnut Edvard Larsen 🌟 Manager

Thanks Ivan, Fixed

3rd Sep 2014 22:33 UTCJason Evans

I never did find out where Monkeyfart Knob is :-(

4th Nov 2014 12:07 UTCJay I. G. Roland

Hi folks, not sure if this is the right place to mention this but on the location page for Carrock Mine, Caldbeck Fells, Cumbria someone has managed to spell 'Kingsbury' (as in Sir Arthur) in two different ways and neither of them is correct.


Just thought I would mention it in case someone might make the corrections.


Regards,


Jay.

4th Nov 2014 12:35 UTCErik Vercammen Expert

I suppose this should be pyrite in the explanation about Berbes (http://www.mindat.org/loc-23096.html)


From a mineralogical point of view, the paragenesis from the whole Ana Mine area (La Cabaña, El Frondil, El Cueto L’Aspa and la Busteriza) is composed of: Fluorite, baryte, quartz, calcite as well as highly localized carbonates such as azurite and malachite, oxides such as goethite, sulfides such as üyrite and some others, much more scarce, like cinnabar and tetrahedrite.

4th Nov 2014 16:37 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Thanks Jay, why would anyone show such disrespect to that great British mineralogist and misspell his name like that?:-D Fixed:-(

Thanks Eric fixed

4th Nov 2014 18:21 UTCDon Windeler

Jason Evans Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I never did find out where Monkeyfart Knob is :-(



Sorry, Jason, as far as I know that locality exists only in the dusty and convoluted recesses of my skull. Plenty of rocks there, none worth collecting. I think a glass of wine might have been involved during the original writeup.


In a coincidence apropos of nothing, this thread popped up again today just after I finished a note to a colleague who was musing about "data is" vs. "data are". All good fun.


Cheers,

D.

4th Nov 2014 18:26 UTCJay I. G. Roland

Rob, I'm sure Sir Arthur Fibsbury would be spinning in his grave if he were to know his name was given in such a misinformed way, he being a great stickler for accuracy :-D


Spin away Arthur, spin away!


Regards,


Jay.

11th Nov 2014 19:01 UTCChester S. Lemanski, Jr.

Don,


Definately "data are." (datum is)


Chet

11th Nov 2014 21:36 UTCBOB HARMAN

CHESTER, While we are discussing spelling and grammar, your spelling should be "DEFINITELY", with an "i" and no "a". As an aside, I won all my spelling and grammar contests thru ought school and have spell check helping me as I write this. CHEERS………..BOB

11th Nov 2014 22:13 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

"thru ought school and have spell check helping me"


It missed something ;-)


EDIT: Corrected a misprint of my own... ("someting")

11th Nov 2014 22:23 UTCBOB HARMAN

UWE , GOOD! You caught it! I was purposely playing a bit of a mind game with everyone and you did not disappoint. My faith is restored.

According to Webster, the correct spelling seems to be "throughout" or 'through-out". CHEERS……BOB

14th Dec 2014 03:14 UTCJohn Wilda (2)

There are 2 green Prehnite photos shown as coming from the Lane Quarry in Northfield, MA. One is from The Schlicter Collection and the other is from the Ken Holloman Collection. I doubt they are from the Lane in Northfield and should be from the Lane in Westfield, MA.

14th Dec 2014 04:44 UTCWayne Corwin

I belive John is correct on both of those.

17th Dec 2014 06:33 UTCRock Currier Expert

Is there a way to run a spell checker on all of the content of Mindat?

17th Dec 2014 07:49 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

I hope not, Rock, the results would be disastrous. For example, a few days ago a spellcheck program tried to change "anglesite" into "angle site".

The number of correct words made bad would probably exceed the number of errors made good.

17th Dec 2014 12:34 UTCPeter Nancarrow 🌟 Expert

I would second Alfredo's comment!


Modern software is more context sensitive, I know, but in the earlier days of PC spell checking, where a word would only be flagged up if it wasn't in the custom dictionary, on several occasions, automatic "corrections" changed my originally intended terminology for the worse. I recall examples such as "birefringent" being substituted for "birefringence", and "refraction" for "diffraction", which unfortunately, due to time pressures on the day, slipped past my proof reading and ended up in signed reports!


In similar circumstances, one of my former colleagues also suffered the embarassment of sending out a letter to an important customer, which unfortunately began "Dead Sir, . . ." !


Pete N.

17th Dec 2014 13:18 UTCRobert Rothenberg

I recently sent out several e-mail messages. The spell checker changes "bugs" to "bugs," and my favorite: "baotite" to "bootie." It took a while until I caught on.


Bob

22nd Dec 2014 02:49 UTCRock Currier Expert

Alfredo,

Certainly an program that would automatically correct any misspelled words it thought it had found would be disastrous. But a program that would mark questionable words for an editor and make suggestions for correct spelling and offer a choice and alternative actions like just ignoring the questionable spelling, or placing it in a list of valid spellings etc before going on to the next one would, I think be very helpful. The same list of possible actions should also include a choice to access the dictionary and edit those entries would be very desirable.

21st Apr 2015 12:27 UTCErik Vercammen Expert

On the page about "acmite", the explanation bout the chemical differences between the red and green specimens from the TL, contains 2 or 3 times 'og' instead of 'and'.

21st Apr 2015 12:52 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

Thanks, Erik.

Fixed.

21st Apr 2015 13:34 UTCFred E. Davis

Also, aegerine is spelled "aegerin" once, and the two photos illustrating the relationship between name and color are exactly opposite to the explanation in the text.

21st Apr 2015 15:10 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Fred, please give me a link. I can't find what you are talking about on the aegirine page.

http://www.mindat.org/min-4478.html

http://www.mindat.org/min-31.html

21st Apr 2015 16:58 UTCTimothy Greenland

You reassure me Rob! I got your page too, and only saw the right one by following a link given by Alfredo P... I thought I was just geting old - but if you did it too, that can't be the explanationb...


Cheers


Tim


PS Any plans to visit us in Lyon yet (perhaps for the MineraLyon show???)


T

21st Apr 2015 20:06 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Thanks Uwe, Presumably you sorted out Fred's observation?


Thanks Tim. I'll take you up on your kind invite, but not sure when.

22nd Apr 2015 13:07 UTCFred E. Davis

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Rob,


I was referring to this page: http://www.mindat.org/min-4471.html . This is also where the images and text don't agree. See image below for location of spelling issue:




Best regards,

Fred

22nd Apr 2015 14:25 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Fixed, thank you

19th Nov 2015 13:30 UTCJason Evans

I was looking up about Geikielite and noticed a typo where it says Place of Conservation of Type Material: is listed as Naturalk History Museum, London 69078-69079, of course it should be Natural, without the k.

19th Nov 2015 14:34 UTCBob Harman

While technical and occasional spelling and grammatical errors on Mindat are inadvertent and occasionally occur, I am more concerned with just plain sloppy postings. These are virtually never made by Mindat members and regular users, but by visitors and occasionally some new members. They seem to me made by casual folks who just don't really care about their postings or spend any time previewing or editing their postings to get everything right.

Personally, I think that infrequent postings are so bad as to diminish the "professionalism aspect" of the Mindat website. Ideally I would like to see gentle reminders sent to these folks suggesting they preview and correct their future postings. CHEERS.....BOB

19th Nov 2015 14:38 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

Fixed natural

11th Jan 2016 02:08 UTCLeor Goldberg

http://www.mindat.org/photo-160547.html


Collection is spelled incorrectly and stalagtitic isn't a word. As a sidenote, I don't believe the goethite is stalactic in habit -- though I will post that in the appropriate forum.

11th Jan 2016 02:20 UTCLeor Goldberg

Before I post more, should this page be reserved only for corrections regarding text written for the actual site? In other words, not for user-generated content?

11th Jan 2016 02:35 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

If you notice an error in someone's photo caption, the photographer might resolve it faster if you send them a PM directly, rather than posting it here. Not everyone reads all the messages on the Messageboards (I read maybe a third of all the messages every day, but I suspect lots of people read even fewer), so the photo uploader might never get notification of the error. In that case it's left to one of the site managers to write to the photographer, and so the work load was just done twice over.

5th Apr 2016 10:31 UTCRiccardo Modanesi

Hi to everybody!

Then... color or colour? Theatre or theater? Program or programme? Gemologist or gemmologist?

What is more important is... we all understand one another when we write a message or an article!

Greetings from Italy by Riccardo.:)-D

5th Apr 2016 13:19 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

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Leor,


You are probably right that " stalagtitic " is not the good word. Always happy to improve my English, which is not my native language.


Here you find 2 images of the side of the specimen. How would you describe the goethite, please ?


Thank you in advance.


Cheers from Belgium.


Paul.

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5th Apr 2016 15:37 UTCChester S. Lemanski, Jr.

Stalagtitic!

6th Apr 2016 00:41 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

If the nouns are stalactite and stalagmite, then the adjectives should be stalactitic and stalagmitic, which would make Leor right, logically. (But then again, no one ever accused english of being a logically constructed language, so who knows...)

6th Apr 2016 03:36 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Hi Paul


I would have used the term columnar.


Cheers

Keith

6th Apr 2016 04:05 UTCJake Harper Expert

Radiating, stalagtitic!

6th Apr 2016 08:08 UTCPeter Nancarrow 🌟 Expert

A stalagmite grows by accumulation of prcipitated mineral in the area where drips of solution fall to the bottom of a cavity, cave, overhang, etc, and the "splatter" tends to form a flat "stacked pancake" sort of structure (e.g.stalagmite cross-section) in contrast to the long thin core with parallel overgrowth typical of a stalactite, which has grown by accumulation of concentic longitudinal layers precipitated along what started out as a drip straw.


On that rationale, the goethite specimen shown above is almost certainly stalctitic, not stalagmitic, (with the top to the left in the photos).


Pete N

6th Apr 2016 09:43 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

"Stalagtitic" is a misspelling.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalactite

6th Apr 2016 12:33 UTCRonnie Van Dommelen 🌟 Manager

And also find stalagmitic here (in the second panel down)...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stalagmite

18th Jul 2016 12:43 UTCDon Swenson

The Elements and their Minerals, Helium:


Alpha particles (a helium nuclei He2+ captures electrons when stopped by the surrounding rock to become helium.


Captures should be changed to capture.


Also, the mineral discoverer section doesn't list who discovered it!


Overall this thread is excellent; however, everybody and his uncle knows that helium is an unreactive "noble" gas. I'm quite confident very few people have bothered to view the helium portion. Perhaps other unlikely portions could use a review.

18th Jul 2016 16:10 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

typos fixed

19th Jul 2016 02:25 UTCDoug Daniels

Actually that should read either "helium nuclei capture..." or "a helium nucleus captures......."

16th Jan 2017 09:41 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

http://www.mindat.org/min-42752.html


First line in text field: "Cayalsilite-1O and Cayalsilite-(Y)-1M" should be "cayalsite-(Y)-1O and cayalsite-(Y)-1M"

16th Jan 2017 11:16 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Thanks, done.

16th Jan 2017 20:34 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

OK, but check spelling and capitalization as well.

17th Jan 2017 15:31 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Sorry, missed that - now done.

(Capitalization: this is inconsistent on Mindat and I usually don't bother to change it).

17th Jan 2017 16:42 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

There's more:

Colour: colourless to faint pink

Name: ...Y(ttrium)Al(uminium)Si(licon)

18th Jan 2017 17:23 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

I think, "faintly pink" is grammatically correct.

Name fixed.

18th Jan 2017 20:46 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

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> I think, "faintly pink" is grammatically correct.


Yes, you're right. My point was that pink doesn't show. I now realize that the text field for "Colour" is too small, hence the truncated text...

19th Jan 2017 10:02 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

> I now realize that the text field for "Colour" is too small, hence the truncated text...


We had complained about this issue before, but without success.

27th May 2017 17:48 UTCJeffrey Shallit

Can we correct all the spelling errors on the page


http://webmin.mindat.org/help/Luminescence.shtml ?


e.g.,


"Cathodolumiescence" -> "Cathodoluminescence"


"principle hazard" -> "principal hazard"

27th May 2017 19:07 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Please send David Barthelmy an email (he might not read these threads):


"Mail, Comments, Report Errors to dbarthelmy@webmineral.com" (at bottom of page)


Thanks.

4th Jun 2017 01:51 UTCJeffrey Shallit

Can we fix the spelling of "approved" here;


https://www.mindat.org/locentry-363674.html

4th Jun 2017 14:47 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

We had (as well) complained to Jolyon about this issue before, but without success.

18th Oct 2017 16:29 UTCJeffrey Shallit

Please fix https://www.mindat.org/min-3897.html where it says "cublic zirconia" and link is broken.

18th Oct 2017 16:29 UTCJeffrey Shallit

Misspelling of "approved" still wrong here, months later.


https://www.mindat.org/locentry-363674.html

18th Oct 2017 18:17 UTCRonnie Van Dommelen 🌟 Manager

Jeffrey,

Can you be more specific? I'm confused because it looks fine to me. What am I missing?

18th Oct 2017 19:48 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Whenever a species is not approved by IMA, it used to say "(not an IMA apprroved species), "apprroved" was spelled with 2 R's.


This seems to have been fixed now :-)

18th Oct 2017 22:04 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Ahrrrr


Thank you Vic and I thought Jeffrey was in errror!!

Glad the problem is now fixed - at least for this rrrrrrrrr. :-)



Cheers

19th Oct 2017 00:39 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Yes, thank you for reporting the problems Jeffrey (and others!)

30th Oct 2017 03:23 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

It is interesting for me from where the letter "ë" appeared in Kësterite word? Look https://www.mindat.org/min-2189.html.


This is a Russian mineral named after the locality. Diacritical signs don't using in Russian language as they are in French or Czech. We have two different letters in alphabet - E/e (sounds as "e") and Ё/ё (sounds as "yo").

I haven't ideas at all, how the word Kësterite should to be pronounced.


Lokality Kester (Кестёр in Russian) pronounsed as "Kestyor", and mineral named after it must to be pronounced as "kestyorit".


The letter "ë" must to be eliminated from Kësterite word. >:-( The mineral must be named as it was in original paper - Kesterite.

30th Oct 2017 06:53 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Fixed

30th Oct 2017 12:12 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

From:

Bonshtedt-Kupletskaya E M (1958) New Minerals. Zapiski Vserossijskogo Mineralogicheskogo Obshchestva 87, 76

http://rruff.info/rruff_1.0/uploads/Zapiski_%20Vsesoiuznogo_%20mineralogicheskogo_obshchestva_%2087_1958_76.pdf


for pronunciation:

http://rruff.info/rruff_1.0/uploads/AM43_1219.pdf

3rd Dec 2017 18:36 UTCBernhardt Saini-Eidukat

Hi,

On https://www.mindat.org/min-1933.html (hotsonite)

the reference should read

Beukes et al. (1984): Hotsonite, a...

3rd Dec 2017 18:48 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Thanks, fixed (and co-authors added + additional ref.).

25th Feb 2018 20:42 UTCGregg Little 🌟

On the Ekanite page under colour "Green in various shades, straw-yellow, dark red, colorles", colorles needs to be changed to "colorless".

25th Feb 2018 20:48 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Thanks, fixed.

28th Mar 2018 23:10 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

I have noticed that the "Geologiska Föreningens I Stockholm Förhandlinger" reference is misspelled quite a few times.

The R and S in "Föreningens" are omitted.


It often spells "Föeningen" or "Föeningens" instead of "Föreningens".


Is there a way to correct this site-wide?


Vik

29th Mar 2018 09:19 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Yes, but only for managers. Will do it over Easter.

18th Apr 2018 02:00 UTCRonnie Van Dommelen 🌟 Manager

The caption to this photo should read 'entrance'


22nd Apr 2018 12:31 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Now Fixed

Thanks Ronnie

27th Apr 2018 14:33 UTCKevin Hean

"What does my fellow rockhounds do career wise?"

What do my fellow rockhounds do......

or ,

What does my fellow rockhound do....

27th Apr 2018 17:30 UTCDon Saathoff Expert

Kevin, how good is your Polish grammar, or Russian or Spanish or Dutch or.....

Please remember that MANY Mindaters are not native English speakers but still get the ideas across!

27th Apr 2018 20:00 UTCKevin Hean

I corrected a fellow South African's minor grammar error and I apologize if I came across a bit brash.

29th Apr 2018 20:09 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

> It often spells "Föeningen" or "Föeningens" instead of "Föreningens".

> Is there a way to correct this site-wide?


Now done.

2nd May 2018 19:37 UTCGregg Little 🌟

Not sure if this is a grammatical or technical error. In the Determining Specific Gravity of a Mineral article under the Introductory Articles in the Learning Center page and under the Checking the Purity of Your Sample section the Sp. Gr. of pyrite is noted as 6 to 6.5 which I believe is mistaken for the hardness. The pyrite page lists the density as 4.8 to 5.0. Thanks for looking after this.

4th May 2018 03:19 UTCDonald B Peck Expert

Greg,


thanks for the heads up. That was indeed a mistake.


Don

25th May 2018 22:57 UTCMike Jensen

I found a mistake with the date of death for Gunter Harald Moh (Mohite) in his bio. According to this article from Mineralogical Society of Poland, it is 1993, not 1994. Exact dates are May 2, 1929, to May 13, 1993.

Named in 1982 by V. A. Kovalenka, V. S. Malov, T. L. Evstigneeva, and L. S. Vyals in honor of Günter Harald Moh (1929–1934), University of Heidelberg, Germany, who first synthesised the compound and had done numerous studies on sulphide systems.


The article also has his photo which should also be added to the page.

If you are really ambitious some of the information in the article could be added to his bio.


http://www.mineralogia.pl/texts.html


http://www.mineralogia.pl/PDFy/8%20-%20Vol.24,%20No1-2,%201993.pdf


https://www.mindat.org/min-2741.html


Mike

9th Jun 2018 13:44 UTCOwen Missen

A couple of small errors that should be fixed when someone has the chance:


Aguilarite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-59.html ) - the solid solution descriptions in the 'About Aguilarite' section should have subscripts for the stoichiometric ratios of elements.


Telargpalite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-3903.html ) - in the Name section, 'Greek' is misspelled as 'grek'.

9th Jun 2018 15:27 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Thanks Owen, both fixed.


Mike: someone had fixed mohite in the meantime.

11th Jun 2018 17:09 UTCMike Jensen

Thanks Owen.


There is an image of him in the pdf article that could be shown in his bio. Though it is not very sharp. If anyone knows someone with the Mineralogical Society of Poland they might be able to find a better photo of him.


Mike Jensen

2nd Oct 2018 14:30 UTCOwen Missen

A few more small errors:


Blue Bell Mine page ( https://www.mindat.org/loc-144880.html ), third picture caption needs a space so that it reads ‘site 2A’.


Timroseite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-39836.html ), the picture caption should be ‘Tim Rose a’.


Tlapallite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-3983.html ), in the Name section the Nahua word the mineral is named after should be ‘tlapalli’.


Yecoraite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-4358.html ) - in the Other Information section, ‘10’ is currently written using an l as ‘l0’, and HNO3 should have a subscript.

2nd Oct 2018 21:59 UTCMarek Chorazewicz

Small correction to Owen's findings and suggestions:


1) Both timroseite and paratimroseite pictures should have Tim's name corrected. Currently they say "Tim Rose a" and "Tim Rose b", but I assure you both Tims are the same person, even if their smiles differ a little bit ;-)

The full name should say "Timothy P. Rose" or "Timothy (Tim) P. Rose" -- the second variant is how Tony christened Tim in the timroseite article. Unless Tim tells us otherwise of course...


2) Re Blue Bell sites: many people tend to mislabel them due to slight confusion with the San Bernardino Museum write up which used "2" prefix to indicate Blue Bell mine, earlier publication used prefix 1 for Mohawk mine. So, 2A really means Blue Bell mine site A comprised of many smaller sites and adits. Most famous are A1 adit and A2 stope, also called "Glory Hole". So, on the picture in question it should actually say "site A2".

Also, the B adit should not be called Atkinson Tunnel as Atkinson was just a claim jumper for a few years on the mountain in the middle of the XX century. The rest of the famous sites are called C adit, D area, and E pit. There are many more small sites around, some have separate designations, some don't.


Best Regards,

MarekC

2nd Oct 2018 22:03 UTCMarek Chorazewicz

And one more comment on paratimroseite -- the entry says: "There are only 2 segments of a single specimen found to date (Jan 2010)." -- up to date (2018) there are approx. 10 paratimroseite specimens known and verified.

10th Oct 2018 04:01 UTCOwen Missen

Thanks for those updates Marek!

Looks like most of the changes Marek and I have suggested have now been made, thank you to those who made the edits.

Remaining edits required:


The timroseite page has had the 'a' removed but the name is still incorrectly written as 'Time Rose'.

As Marek suggests, Tim's full name may be more appropriate, but at any rate 'Time' should definitely be corrected.


Yecoraite - the 3 in HNO3 isn't subscripted, though this is not an essential update.

10th Oct 2018 08:19 UTCKnut Edvard Larsen 🌟 Manager

The timroseite page and the 3 in HNO3 on the yecoraite page corrected.

12th Oct 2018 00:02 UTCOwen Missen

Thank you! It looks as though there was a glitch with the timroseite page though, the caption under the picture still says 'Time'.


And while I'm at it, another edit:

Rucklidgeite page, https://www.mindat.org/min-3474.html :

In the last sentence in 'About Rucklidgeite', the mineral name is twice (!) spelt incorrectly without the d.

12th Oct 2018 05:27 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

timroseite page: clearing the page cache fixed "Time".

Rucklidgeite page: name corrected twice.

14th Oct 2018 10:04 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Formicaite (Ca[HCOO]2) and dashkovaite (Mg[HCOO]2.2H2O) are described, respectively, as "naturally occurring calcium formiate" and "magnesium formiate dihydrate". Use of the "i" in "formiate" in both of these names (and perhaps in other formate minerals... I only ran across these two from Solongo) is not the standard spelling, at least not in English... the English name for a salt or ester of formic acid is "formate".


Interestingly, the English translation of the Russian abstract for formicaite uses "β-calcium formiate" in the first sentence and "β-calcium formate" in the second-to-last sentence, so even the translators couldn't make up their mind. Nonetheless, if you search for "formiate" in Wikipedia (English), it redirects to "formate".


http://www.minsoc.ru/FilesBase/128205e.pdf

16th Oct 2018 05:39 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

formicaite and dashkovaite corrected -> formate.


Vik

25th Dec 2018 07:45 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Prevent spelling mistakes in English on Mindat by installing the (free) Grammarly add-in: https://www.grammarly.com/


You can set it to either British or American spelling.


It will let you know which words are spelled incorrectly.


Words it doesn't recognize can be added to a personal dictionary.


I've been using it for quite some time now and I must say, it works very well.


Vik

14th Jan 2019 00:54 UTCRonnie Van Dommelen 🌟 Manager

On the page:

https://www.mindat.org/glossary/qapf_diagram


The following typos should be fixed:

abreviation -> abbreviation

grained(plutonic) -> grained (plutonic)

graned -> grained

14th Jan 2019 06:08 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

Thanks, fixed.

14th Jan 2019 09:19 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

On the lazurite page, https://www.mindat.org/min-2357.html


In the introductory section text, SO^4 should be replaced with SO4


Additionally, it may or may not be of some usefulness to include the formal valences associated with the various S species described in the section. Unfortunately, it may not always be clear exactly what those valences are (e.g., S3 could be thiozonide, S3-, or trisulfide, S32-, or both). A more recent (2012) reference on S speciation in lazurite may also be worthwhile to add to the reference list:


https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/eurjmin/article-abstract/24/1/133/69613/sulphur-speciation-in-lazurite-type-minerals-na-ca?redirectedFrom=fulltext

16th Jan 2019 00:30 UTCRonnie Van Dommelen 🌟 Manager

I think the mineral 'auristibite' should be 'aurostibite' on the page

https://www.mindat.org/min-6810.html

but I don't have the time to check at the moment. Regardless, the current link gives an error.

16th Jan 2019 07:20 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

changed to aurostibite :-)

18th Jan 2019 18:56 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

https://www.mindat.org/min-46000.html

Crystallography of Nuragheite - Morphology: "crystalss"


https://www.mindat.org/min-694.html

Crystallography of Blatterite - Morphology: "striated along the lengtht"


The formula of blatterite is missing a "3" after Sb5+, so is the reference (Cooper...)

18th Jan 2019 19:47 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

Another one in the Cooper reference for blatterite: Nn in the formula should be Mn.

18th Jan 2019 21:49 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Crystallography of Nuragheite - Morphology: "crystalss" ... Fixed


Crystallography of Blatterite - Morphology: "striated along the lengtht" .... Fixed


Another one in the Cooper reference for blatterite: Nn in the formula should be Mn .... Fixed

19th Jan 2019 23:38 UTCTomas Husdal Expert

Rosenbergite formula: "may also be given as AlF3.H2O". "3" is missing in front of the H2O

20th Jan 2019 11:16 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Fixed.

23rd Jan 2019 02:44 UTCRonnie Van Dommelen 🌟 Manager

On today's POTD (https://www.mindat.org/photo-905539.html), the description should read 'bubble' not 'bubbel'.

23rd Jan 2019 03:34 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Thanks Ronnie

I popped the bubble ((-:)

31st Jan 2019 22:47 UTCOwen Missen

A few more errors I've noticed, no particular order.


1. Also on the lazurite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-2357.html ) has a couple more small errors:

a. ‘About Lazurite’, sixth paragraph: Missing space between S4,SO3

b. ‘Classification of Lazurite’, ‘Approval History’: no chemical subscripts in the formulae given in this section


2. Chromschieffelinite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-41959.html ) in the Name section: ‘Chrome’ should really be chromium (no capitals), or Cr6+. Chrome is an alloy.


3. Kostovite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-2260.html ) in ‘About Kostovite’ section: specific gravity has a needless 0 in 07.94.


4. Magnolite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-2542.html ) in ‘About Magnolite’ section: should be ‘Genth’ not ‘Genthite’.


5. Millsite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-46965.html ) has several small errors:

a. In 'About millsite' a space is missing in 'typelocality'.

b. In ‘Type occurrence of millsite’, the sentence ends abruptly with ‘and the Museu’. This is probably a typo unless there is missing detail.

c. There is also an extraneous bracket in the ‘X-ray powder diffraction’ section.


6. Mcalpineite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-7173.html ) should have subscripts in the two iterations of the bixbyite formulae in the ‘About mcalpineite’ section.


7. Ankangite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-238.html ) should have a subscript for the 2 in H2O in the ‘About ankangite’ section.


8. Herbertsmithite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-26600.html ). Final sentence should read ‘named’ not ‘name’.

1st Feb 2019 07:04 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

fixed everything in Owen's preceding post except:


5b) I did not find a reference that identified an additional location housing co-type material.


8) Someone else apparently had already fixed this.

1st Feb 2019 08:03 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Frank

Yes I had fixed Millsite (5b) and Herbertsmithite (8) - don't know what happened to my earlier message - perhaps I didn't hit "post"?

Cheers

1st Feb 2019 15:55 UTCOwen Missen

Thanks Frank and Keith!

5th Feb 2019 21:09 UTCOwen Missen

The spelling of 'Emanuel' in Carl Emanuel Burckhardt varies on the burckhardtite page (https://www.mindat.org/min-804.html).

As far as I can tell from online searching, the one 'm' version is correct, meaning the picture caption needs editing.

5th Feb 2019 21:24 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Corrected to Emanuel with 1 M :-)

18th Feb 2019 17:12 UTCOwen Missen

Another name with two spellings is on the baileychlore (https://www.mindat.org/min-488.html) page. Should be Sturges with an e not an i (picture caption).

There is also an extra space after 'Waupaca'.

19th Feb 2019 05:27 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Fixed all errors on the baileychlore page.

21st Feb 2019 16:43 UTCOwen Missen

Thanks Vik!

Next batch of small corrections:


1. Tolbachik Volcano page: (https://www.mindat.org/loc-5602.html). Two of the three pictures shown on the title page have 'Volbachik' rather than 'Tolbachik'. The v in volcano is also not capitalised in the page title but is capitalised in most of the pictures which could perhaps be edited for consistency.


2. Kamchatkite page: (https://www.mindat.org/min-2146.html). In 'about kamchatkite', 'and' is mistyped as 'an'.


3. Lammerite-beta page (https://www.mindat.org/min-29291.html). Reference list has fumaroles and Tolbachik misspelled.


4. Cu-Te mineralisation in Wallonia page: (https://www.mindat.org/loc-296398.html), LOcated has an extraneous capital O.

21st Feb 2019 21:48 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

All fixed Owen :-) N° 3, Tolbachic is spelled like that in the original reference, so I kept it like that.


Vik

23rd Feb 2019 20:40 UTCOwen Missen

OK makes sense. Thanks!

24th Feb 2019 17:43 UTCDon Windeler

In the home page for Heterogenite (https://www.mindat.org/min-1885.html) , under "Optical Data of Heterogenite" the entry for Internal Reflections says "Deep cobalt-blue to purle" instead of "purple".


Cheers,

D.

24th Feb 2019 19:01 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Hi Don, fixed "purple"

27th Feb 2019 21:43 UTCJerry Cone 🌟 Expert

The colour of embreyite is listed as dul orange, probably should be dull.

27th Feb 2019 22:03 UTCVik Vanrusselt Expert

Hi Jerry,


fixed "dull"


Vik

26th Mar 2019 21:31 UTCOwen Missen

Hi, couple of errors I've spotted lately:


Chanabayaite (https://www.mindat.org/min-43945.html). 'Name after the typelocality.' missing a space. Formula of the precursor lacks subscripts and has an overly large dot for hydration.


Gråurdfjellet (https://www.mindat.org/loc-11702.html) missing a comma between 'monazite,uraninite'.


Camérolaite (https://www.mindat.org/min-872.html) has two errors: the name of Camérola himself is missing the acute accent; the originally reported formula has the hydration dot (should be ·) as a fullstop.

26th Mar 2019 22:38 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Hi Owen,


all fixed (including catching an additional missing é within the body of the text for camérolaite).

27th Mar 2019 20:28 UTCOwen Missen

Thanks Frank, well spotted!

18th Apr 2019 02:57 UTCOwen Missen

Couple of errors I spotted:


Scrutinyite (https://www.mindat.org/min-3598.html) - extra brackets at bottom of PXRD section can be removed.


Dravertite (https://www.mindat.org/min-46608.html) - missing superscript in cm2 then an unnecessary '-' in 1-cm, in the first sentence of 'Type Occurrence' section.

18th Apr 2019 03:30 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Hi Owen,


both fixed

29th Apr 2019 06:44 UTCOwen Missen

Cheers Frank.


Latest batch:

Ferrierite page (https://www.mindat.org/min-1492.html) - the NH4 lacks a subscript in the final sentence of "About".


Kojonenite page (https://www.mindat.org/min-46081.html) - the numbers in the 0.3 ≤ x ≤ 0.8 appear to be incorrectly entered as subscripts.

29th Apr 2019 10:34 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Hi Owen,


both fixed.

28th May 2019 06:28 UTCOwen Missen

Thanks again Frank, here are a couple more!

Wiklundite page (https://www.mindat.org/min-46820.html) - in the first row of the structure description, the 4 of SiO4 is not in a subscript.


Chegemite series (https://www.mindat.org/min-46188.html) - the 2 in the M(OH,F)2 formula, in 'about chegemite series' is also not in a subscript.

28th May 2019 07:17 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Hi Owen,


both fixed.

28th May 2019 11:05 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Frank.


Please be careful. You have not edited the formula correctly. You must not use HTML subscript and superscript codes to enter a formula, they must be entered in the way that is described at the top of the edit page, with a ^ before subscript elements and a # surrounding superscript elements.


So magnetite is


Fe#2+#Fe#3+#^2O^4


If it's not done right there are various other processes including future formula search that will fail.

28th May 2019 11:07 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

I've fixed chegemite.

28th May 2019 11:09 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

We have another problem with the Chegemite Group formula, it shows OH dominant over F even though the description says that F may be dominant in some cases.


I know I've complained about this kind of thing for a long time and no-one else in the mineralogical world seems to be that bothered by it, but WHAT do we do in cases like this?


As scientists we need to be precise in what we describe, not sloppy like this!

28th May 2019 11:13 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

I've suggested things such as


(OH / F)


(OH - F)


(OH and/or F)



but it can't be (OH,F) because that implies OH is always dominant over F.



How should we write this?



The only other option is to change (OH,F) to Z and have Z = OH and/or F in the formula notes.

28th May 2019 11:51 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

How about (OH:F), implying some unknown ratio?

28th May 2019 11:56 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

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Hi Jolyon,


I don't think it was me. The ^ and #2+# type codes only work in some of the cells (for example, in the formula cell, where the Chegemite Group formula is given as Ca^2^nSi^nO^4^n.Ca(OH,F)^2). I didn't touch that. The changes I made for both minerals were in the General Description box, which seems to require HTML code (or at least there's still a lot of code there that I didn't add or touch):




When I've used the ^ and #1-# type code in this cell type, they didn't work. The only change I made for this mineral was what Owen indicated... on the fourth line in the illustration I included, for the original M(OH,F)2 I added the HTML code around the 2.


Similarly for wiklundite, the only change I made was what Owen indicated, and is shown on the attached figure (and note all the other HTML code already there):

00297200015652172283447.jpg

28th May 2019 12:23 UTCGerhard Niklasch Expert

Use <f>...</f> around formulas in mindat HTML-text fields, and then the ^ and #1-# type codes inside these f tags will do the right thing.

See the manual.


Cheers, Gerhard

28th May 2019 12:37 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Thanks Gerhard. But from these two examples then it doesn't look like anyone else is following the manual either, because again, only a single HTML mark-up in each panel was my doing... all the the rest (and as you can see there's no shortage of them) preceded me! Nonetheless, in the past, within the formula cells themselves, I have used the ^ and #2+# type codes, since HTML code doesn't work in them anyway (for example, yesterday I updated the individual end-member tetrahedrites to conform to the new IMA-18-K formats [mostly converting S13 to S12S])

28th May 2019 13:18 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Sorry Frank, I assumed it was you as you were the last in the edit trail.


In plain text fields you can use <sub> or <f> as you prefer as that's not critical.

28th May 2019 13:19 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

What about the (OH,F) problem?


If no-one has a better idea I'll change it to (OH/F)

28th May 2019 14:30 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Use "CaX2, X = OH or F"

3rd Jun 2019 04:21 UTCOwen Missen

Hi all,

Didn't expect those two would lead to further discussion, but good to clear some things up!

Seems that in general superscripts and subscripts haven't always been entered according to the Mindat manual - definitely something to be aware of.


The (OH,F) and equivalent problems are certainly tricky. I like Uwe's suggestion at the bottom best, though should it be 'and/or' not just 'or'? I think the use of 'or' is standard though, and no mineralogist is going to assume that 'or' means 'all OH' or 'all F'.

The chegemite formula remains with a comma in several instances on the page - depending what is decided. I don't know how many other minerals/groups have similar issues.


The comma notation also runs into some problems when running chemical searches - depending on how the formula is recorded on Mindat.

If you are not interested in minor components, the second or third element in a bracket will come up regardless, even if it is only present in minor amounts. However, if one is interested in minor components, formulae do not always include minor components in brackets. But that is probably a discussion for another day on a different Mindat forum, and a careful search should not run into problems!

11th Jun 2019 07:51 UTCDuncan Miller

There is a (trivial but perhaps misleading) spelling mistake, in the heading and the caption, of Tweefontein mine (not Tweenfontein), Northern Cape, South Africa. https://www.mindat.org/loc-53590.html

11th Jun 2019 08:01 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Hi Duncan... fixed spelling

23rd Jun 2019 17:49 UTCJim Daly

loc.206285 Bossardville Quarry is misspelled. Correct name for the quarry and town is Bossardsville.

See official Pennsylvania road map for confirmation.

23rd Jun 2019 20:26 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Thanks, fixed.

4th Aug 2019 15:17 UTCOwen Missen

Ikunolite page ( https://www.mindat.org/min-2008.html ) The formula for laitakarite, Bi4(Se,S)3, in the final sentence of 'About' lacks subscripts.

Note that the formula for laitakarite on its own page is Bi4Se2S - so should this be the formula in the sentence on the ikunolite page as well?

4th Aug 2019 17:06 UTCKeith Wood

Many things are called stalactitic that probably formed below the water table. The term seems overused to me. That radiating growth does not look stalactitic. Stalactitic would be concentric not radial, IMO.

5th Aug 2019 03:40 UTCOwen Missen

Hi Keith, looks like this message was meant for a response to another topic?

5th Aug 2019 10:04 UTCPeter Nancarrow 🌟 Expert

I have edited the title of the locality formerly shown as "Greystones Quarry, Lezant, Cornwall" to correct it to "Greystone Quarry"


Pete N.

10th Aug 2019 09:44 UTCOwen Missen

In addition to the error on the ikunolite page (mentioned above), here are a couple more errors:

1. on the utahite page, https://www.mindat.org/min-7348.html , next to Empire Mine, Arizona, is a sentence which includes an incorrect spelling of 'Malcolm'. Should be corrected to this from 'Malcomb'.

2. on the carbonatecyanotrichite page, https://www.mindat.org/min-894.html , in the About section there is a link to the mineral camérolaite. However, the accent on the e is missing.

10th Aug 2019 11:45 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

fixed #1 and #2 above

also subscripted laitakarite formula on ikunolite page, but didn't change the format of the formula because the IMA version still includes the parentheses.

6th Mar 2020 19:50 UTCOwen Missen

Some more edits (continued numbering from previous post on Aug 10 last year):
3. On the chenite page, in 'Name' ( https://www.mindat.org/min-987.html ), CAnada should be changed to Canada.

4. On the mutinaite page (https://www.mindat.org/min-7184.html) I noticed that there are some errors in the zeolite group table.
These may be more difficult to change than simply editing a word.
NB  These errors appear to persist on the pages for the other zeolite group minerals, though not all zeolite group minerals have the  Relationship of [Insert name here] to other Species - others have a list of related minerals by Nickel-Strunz. So to make this all consistent would be a lot of work. In the meantime, hopefully these five things can be cleaned up:

a) Clinoptilolite - the link to the rruff page is cut off.

b) Faujasite has no information. Like the old name gmelinite, faujasite needs a comment. The faujasite page lists Faujasite-Ca, Faujasite-Mg, Faujasite-Na as synonyms of faujasite, but only faujasite-Ca is in the table (missing Faujasite-Mg and Faujasite-Na?)

c) Heulandite - same issue as clinoptilolite.

d) Phillipsite just has a link to the zeolite group page - a comment on the name might be helpful.

e) The note on the stilbite subgroup has an unfinished ellipsis.

Thanks!

6th Mar 2020 23:24 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

fixed #3
fixed #4a
fixed #4c

regarding #4e, I'm not sure that's an error... I think the ellipses just indicate that there's more content than will fit into this cell.

regarding the main #4, and #4b and #4d, I'll leave adding more commentary about names and relationships to someone more in the know about zeolites.

7th Mar 2020 02:24 UTCOwen Missen

Hi Frank,
I think you're right about the ellipsis, but I can't see a way to expand the ellipsis, which means either (1) the section should be shortened or (2) the ellipsis should be expandable, otherwise it's not especially helpful.
thanks!

7th Mar 2020 03:07 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Hi again Owen,

I looked at a few of the series and groups among the zeolites, and apparently the text in the formula table specifically for series and groups is taken from the first sentence of the "general description" (as long as that first sentence isn't too long... otherwise we get part of it and then ellipsis). So whatever is written there gets reproduced in the table, where for species we'd see (and expect) a formula. If you want to see what the missing part of the text for the stilbite subgroup looks like, click on the stilbite subgroup link and you'll see the full text.

This may be a bug, since that choice seems like a rather arbitrary place to pull information from for the related-minerals table, unless it were originally intended that the first sentence of groups and series be a short and succinct description of series end-members (though it still would fail for groups with more than 2 or 3 members, still necessitating ellipsis).

Unfortunately, this is a programming issue (where the table contents are taken from, and how much space is allowed) and not a one that can be easily fixed by just editing the series or group pages (that is, unless we purposely add-in short, succinct and essentially low-value "there are X members in this group" first sentences that will then get reproduced in the table). 

edit: I brought this issue up with the management team and will see what others there have to say about this.

7th Mar 2020 18:33 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

OK, it's apparently not a bug, and the solution is indeed something akin to:

(that is, unless we purposely add-in short, succinct and essentially low-value "there are X members in this group" first sentences that will then get reproduced in the table).


7th Mar 2020 04:53 UTCMichael J Pabst 🌟


This might be the smallest correction ever: Sarkinite was named from the Greek σάρκινός (sarkinos) meaning flesh, due to its color. Mindat misspells it in Greek, wrongly substituting an upsilon (looks like u) for the nu (looks like v).


7th Mar 2020 05:12 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

fixed... now σάρκινός

10th Mar 2020 09:58 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Perhaps it's time we started a new corrections thread - this one is getting a tad long. Perhaps "Spelling and grammar corrections 2020"

10th Mar 2020 22:20 UTCDebbie Woolf Manager

Good idea Keith!
 
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