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Impact Breccia?
Posted by Jerry Montgomery
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Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 05:19PM |
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I found this rock in a field in Jasper, GA. No river in site and no smelting facilities. Shows signs of shock. Just wanting opinions on whether or not this could be impact breccia. The center appears to be a tightly packed , very hard sandstone.
Thanks for any input.
Thanks for any input.
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 05:57PM |
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 08:05PM |
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I found a picture on this website
[www1.newark.ohio-state.edu].
As an amateur, I didn't read it well and assumed the one photo was Breccia. This rock actually looks like the photos of the oncolitic limestone. I attached a picture of the clast with more detail (8993). They are of the same material that the entire rock is made of. It doesn't appear to be a conglomerate. i also attached a photo with lighting from the side to show the details in the side opposite of the clasts (8992).
When I revisited the web page for the odessa impact, I realized that I have many rocks on my property that look like the breccia that they show. I have attached one labeled 8999.
[www1.newark.ohio-state.edu].
As an amateur, I didn't read it well and assumed the one photo was Breccia. This rock actually looks like the photos of the oncolitic limestone. I attached a picture of the clast with more detail (8993). They are of the same material that the entire rock is made of. It doesn't appear to be a conglomerate. i also attached a photo with lighting from the side to show the details in the side opposite of the clasts (8992).
When I revisited the web page for the odessa impact, I realized that I have many rocks on my property that look like the breccia that they show. I have attached one labeled 8999.
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 09:17PM |
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 09:59PM |
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 10:57PM |
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I don't think the rock is conglomerate and it does not look like any algal oncolites I have ever seen. This rock actually looks like an arkosic sandstone. There appear to be lots of small, shiny flecks of mica in the rock, which is often the case with arkose. The rounded shapes that look like clasts could very well be concretions. Concretions are formed when some parts of the rock are cemented more than others. In the photo numbered 8993, some areas appear to be preferentially cemented with haematite, which could be causing concretions. The photo numbered 8992 shows an interesting sedimentary structure known as ripple marks. As these appear to be asymmetric ripple marks, it is likely this rock was formed in an ancient river system.
Nathalie Brandes
Professor of Geoscience
Nathalie Brandes
Professor of Geoscience
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 11:02PM |
Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 43 |
If the rock you show is from Jasper GA it is metamorphic .It appears at a first and distant glance to be a metaconglomerate or a metasandstone.Do some web searching on the geology of the Jasper GA area; there is a lot of very good information out there!The Jasper area has some very interesting geology!
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 03, 2011 11:07PM |
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Rick is correct. The rock illustrated on the Ohio State website shows the rock that was disrupted by an impact, not an impact breccia.
Your samples do not show any features associated with impacts. Some of your samples are rippled sediments (8992) with dessication (drying) cracks (8974;8992). Others show intraformational conglomerate (Side 1; 8993). Those are features that go together (rippled sediment, dessication cracks, intraformational conglomerate), suggesting deposition, erosion, and redeposition on a tidal flat. Sample 8999 shows metamorphosed clayey/silty sediment that might be a side view of any of the others, especially as they come from near the Appalachian Mountains with its history of metamophism. I have seen exactly that assemblage of lithologies at many sites throughout the Appalachians.
To claim evidence for an impact, your samples should have impact written all over them. No equivocation--all of us raving over them as impact artifacts rather than atributing them to normal sedimentary/metamorphic processes.
Your samples do not show any features associated with impacts. Some of your samples are rippled sediments (8992) with dessication (drying) cracks (8974;8992). Others show intraformational conglomerate (Side 1; 8993). Those are features that go together (rippled sediment, dessication cracks, intraformational conglomerate), suggesting deposition, erosion, and redeposition on a tidal flat. Sample 8999 shows metamorphosed clayey/silty sediment that might be a side view of any of the others, especially as they come from near the Appalachian Mountains with its history of metamophism. I have seen exactly that assemblage of lithologies at many sites throughout the Appalachians.
To claim evidence for an impact, your samples should have impact written all over them. No equivocation--all of us raving over them as impact artifacts rather than atributing them to normal sedimentary/metamorphic processes.
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 04, 2011 02:27AM |
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In looking at those specimens again, I think what I called dessication cracks in 8974 and 8992 are actually trace fossils--marks made by some critter crawling on the sediment. Sample 8993 also shows some trace fossils, but of less certain geometry, both to the upper left and upper right in the photo among what Nathalie said might be concretions. I will still place my bet on intraclasts, however. These samples may be from the Chilhowee Group, the basal Cambrian transgressive interval in the southern Appalachians. The sandstones are arkosic and micaceous, and often display signs of low intensity metamorphism in this area.
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Re: Impact Breccia? December 05, 2011 01:52PM |
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