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LocalitiesRubtsovsk Mine, Rubtsovsky District, Altai Krai, Russia

19th Nov 2014 21:49 UTCturtledove thrushe

From reading Jolyon's latest report from the Munich Mineral show a supplier "Russian Minerals" told them that the deposit is now finished and there is no more material being recovered. Can anyone confirm this and what the duration of the deposit was from (the first Cuprite's appeared in Tucson in 2009?)

http://www.mindat.org/article.php/2136/The+Munich+Mineral+Show+2014

Russian Minerals gave me the sad news that the Rubtsovskoe deposit in Russia, famous for cuprite, copper and copper/silver halide minerals is now "finished" and no new material is being recovered

19th Nov 2014 21:57 UTCRock Currier Expert

Its not over till its over. I have learned to take statements like "the deposit is finished" with a grain of salt. Until the mine is shut down completely and filled with water or caved in I don't believe it. Even if it has been caved and filled with water, it has been know that some miners have collected and hoarded away large amounts of specimens that will eventually show up on the market.

What is one of the most commonly heard laments from collectors looking at some of the fabulous specimens on display each year? "But he told me I had the best one."

Some times these statements are true, but more often they are not. I know that the Russian collectors love their specimens just as much as other collectors and it would not surprise me at all if there are better specimens of cuprite from this mine that have yet been seen in the west.

19th Nov 2014 22:06 UTCturtledove thrushe

Exactly Rock Currier. While I know that the Azurite 'Floaters' are more rare to see from that deposit It seems the market has quite a few of the Cuprite's coming from this locality. The Cuprite's and the Azurite 'Floater's are really exceptional from this deposit and I made sure to grab a few before.

I have contacted a friend of mine and also a dealer asking about this so I will update once I hear back from him.

I'll have to upload my collection as well to mindat and display some of these Cuprite's/Azurite's from this locality.

On the subject of the locality though last I heard and remember was that these specimens were being mined in an oxidation layer and that they were mining through it quickly. Looking at the first appearance of these specimens it appears that they were first displayed in Tucson from 2009?

20th Nov 2014 04:09 UTCRock Currier Expert

These kinds of deposits usually produce limited, transitory quantities of specimens. In this case the find was pretty large. At one time I was able to buy the cuprite specimens from the locality by the Kg. No more however. It appears that the locality is now producing far less specimens that it used to. I think that most of the specimens available as shows now are those that were produced several years ago.

21st Nov 2014 02:47 UTCturtledove thrushe

I just found out from my friend and who is also a local dealer that he has quite a few of the Azurite 'Floaters' and Cuprite 'Clusters' still available and that he doesn't know the current status since September. He will be visiting Russia within the next few months and will provide an update when he can.

In the meanwhile I hope to get some deals on those 'Clusters/Floater's to add to my existing inventory.

19th Nov 2019 18:30 UTCAntoine Barthélemy Expert

What has happened to this locality? Why does it have only three hierarchy levels? This seems really not enough for a country as vast as Russia.

19th Jan 2020 12:30 UTCPhilip Bluemner Expert

Hi,

why were the names "Rubtsovskoe Cu-Zn-Pb deposit" and

"Poteryaevskoe Mine" taken away from the title? Is it to shorten the title

and leave the synonyms mentioned beneath?

Hasn't Poteryaevskoe Mine by the way been considered as a separate locality or is it just a synonym?

Regards

Philip

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