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Identity HelpPrehnite slab and??

17th Nov 2014 19:03 UTCStar Night

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Hello.

Hope you are all having a nice day.

I'm looking for some help identifying what is on

/in and around this 5x5x3 slab of prehnite.

There is the sparkly crust over the top bubbles,

Deeper green color swirl bubbles out the side,

And my guess for the other side crusts is quarts.

The total weight is 3.67 pounds. I got a few pieces

of this among other rocks

from

A relative that passed away years ago in Paterson Nj. He was

A life long u.s.a rock hound but never wrote down what

Anything was!

I'd appreciate any help, if it's allowed in this topic;

Ideas on value would be cool. Unfortunately I'm moving

And can't take the weight of the rocks with so I'll be listing them.

Thanks. D

17th Nov 2014 19:57 UTCReiner Mielke Expert

Impossible to say what the sparkles are without a closeup that clearly shows their shape, but a wild guess would be apophyllite ( they should have a square outline and be soft. The stuff in the last photo looks like quartz.

17th Nov 2014 22:07 UTCBrander Robinson

Without better photo try drop of vinegar on the white "bubbles" to test for calcite. If the vinegar reacts it is most likely calcite which occurs with prehnite. Hope this helps.

18th Nov 2014 14:17 UTCStar Night

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Thanks for the replies. I took a few close ups of the

green swirl, the white crust cover which almost looks

like beach sand close

up, and a pic of the other quartz? Pocket.

Thanks again, the help is much appreciated.

I'll still try the vinegar when I get some, curios about that lol

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18th Nov 2014 15:43 UTCReiner Mielke Expert

Actually I thought you were asking about the glassy coarse grained stuff to the right of the prehnite. The fine grained stuff to the left could very well be calcite.

18th Nov 2014 15:50 UTCStar Night

Thanks, would this be considered a good and or

Interesting specimen because of it's thickness of green underneath

And extra minerals on it; or is it just humdrum because

Of the coating over the green?

18th Nov 2014 16:44 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert

Hi Star:

If he lived in Paterson, then he very likely collected this piece from the trap rock quarries in the area. Take a look at these mindat pages for more guidance.


http://www.mindat.org/loc-3954.html


particularly this one:

http://www.mindat.org/loc-5400.html


Having collected a lot of similar minerals, the light-colored crust over the prehnite looks like calcite. If so it should fizz slowly with vinegar as mentioned above. If not, then it may be quartz. I think the coarser, glassy crystals to the right of the prehnite (looks like in a layer under the prehnite) in your second posted photo are datolite.


The coating is likely making the piece less aesthetic as the green prehnite is more attractive, depending on the eye of the beholder, of course!. If it is calcite, it could be easily dissolved away with diluted hydrochloric acid. But this may etch the prehnite, making it dull and defeating the purpose. Whatever it is, it could be removed by mechanical means, but that's time consuming and could still damage the prehnite. If it were mine, I would leave it alone as there is so much of this material around that its value is not worth the effort I'd expend or damage I'd create to remove the crust. And as a geologist I find the assemblage interesting if not the most pretty. It shows the order in which minerals crystallized in this pocket - datolite first, then prehnite, then quartz or calcite.


If you have a bunch of material the relative collected, try bringing it to a local gem/mineral club meeting (check this web site for ones in your area http://www.amfed.org/efmls/ ) as it is always easier for folks to ID things in person than through photos. The clubs in Conn. where I am get unlabelled material brought in all the time and it is fun to solve these mysteries.

24th Nov 2014 17:30 UTCStar Night

Thank you so much for all the help/info and replies

It's much appreciated. :)
 
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