Can anyone identify these locality labels?

Over the past couple of years I've bought severel specimens of which I cannot read their locality labels or cannot find their localities on google / mindat, maybe because of one or more errors in it. I searched extensively on the internet and I found most of the correct locations. However I still have some labels that confuse me. Any help with these labels would be grately appreciated.
Thanx,
Niels

Aragonite:
[i32.tinypic.com]
Clinohummite:
[i26.tinypic.com]
Phillipsite:
[i25.tinypic.com]



Edited 15 time(s). Last edit at 05/13/2008 12:37PM by Niels van Velzen.

- Aragonite: This label doesn't make much sense. Pradovice is supposedly in Slovakia, or in the Czech republic, whereas "Bozen" is the German name of Bolzano, South Tyrol, Italy.
- Hedenbergite: Possibly from Fianel Mine, Grischun, Switzerland. Hedenbergite is presently not on the list of minerals from this locality, but the deposit is metamorphic and marble-hosted, so there might be skarns which would make an occurrence of Hedenbergite quite likely.
- Erythrite-Langite-Cuprite. "Gr. Lö." is possibly an abbreviation of "Grüner Löwe Mine". Erythrite-Langite combinations are well known there. Does the matrix look porphyry-like ?
- Terlinguaite, etc.: "Mo bg." is possibly an abbreviation of "Moschellandsberg". Though, we would have to see the specimen to confirm this.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2008 02:47PM by Peter Haas.

Isokite: Huber (Hubr) Stock/Shaft.
[www.mindat.org]

Hematite: "Spranger Claim" (probably name of a small local claim),
Thomas Range, Utah (http://www.mindat.org/loc-4154.html)

Hello,

Clinohumite: Lake View Mountain, California, USA.
Hematite: Thomas Range, Utah. USA
Terlinguaite: Most likely Moschellandsberg (old name of Landsberg) near Obermoschel, Rhineland-Palatinate, Western Germany. It's an old mine (possibly roman ages) where silver and mercury have been mined.
Isokite: Hubr is a czech name for the Huberstock mine near Schlaggenwald (Horni Slavkov), Karlovy Vary, Northern Bohemia, Czech Republik.

Regards,

Sebastian Möller

Clinohumite: there are several Lakeview localities on Mindat. You might want to check them for skarn minerals / calcsilicates.

Peter Haas Wrote:
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> - Aragonite: This label doesn't make much sense.
> Pradovice is supposedly in Slovakia, or in the
> Czech republic, whereas "Bozen" is the German name
> of Bolzano, South Tyrol, Italy.
> - Hedenbergite: Possibly from Fianel Mine,
> Grischun, Switzerland. Hedenbergite is presently
> not on the list of minerals from this locality,
> but the deposit is metamorphic and marble-hosted,
> so there might be skarns which would make an
> occurrence of Hedenbergite quite likely.
> - Erythrite-Langite-Cuprite. "Gr. Lö." is
> possibly an abbreviation of "Grüner Löwe Mine".
> Erythrite-Langite combinations are well known
> there. Does the matrix look porphyry-like ?
> - Terlinguaite, etc.: "Mo bg." is possibly an
> abbreviation of "Moschellandsberg". Though, we
> would have to see the specimen to confirm this.


-Moschellandsberg is very well possible. The specimen looks very likely to come from that location.
-Erythrite - Langite - Cuprite: the matrix looks indeed a bit porphyry-like.

[www.mindat.org]
[www.mindat.org]

There are 2 locations that match "Grüner Löwe Mine"
I suppose you mean the last one?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2008 03:51PM by Niels van Velzen.

I was thinking about Imsbach.

yoshimuraite:
Toguchi Mine, Shidara, Kitashidara-Gun, Aichi, Japan

locality not listed in Mindat; is listed with photo on webmineral.

Agardite + Chrysocoll:
WG = Weiße Grube, Imsbach
[www.mindat.org]

Duftite + Brochantite + Mimetite:
K I = Katharina I mine, Imsbach
[www.mindat.org]

both are common parageneses at Imsbach.

Calomel + Azurite + Malachite + Cinnabarite:
agree with Peter: Moschellandsberg

cheers
Roger

Roger,

Agree with what ? I didn't say anything about the Calomel label. I am not even sure whether Calomel and the others really refer to the same specimen. Obviously, someone has overwritten an earlier pink writing - box recycling ?


PS: You missed the first part of the thread, when we were dealing with labels that do not appear anymore, because Niels has edited his first post.

Peter,
sry ... i mentioned the kalomel + species-jousi ;-)
Mo. B. IMHO (and agreed to you) could be Moschellandsberg. That Kalomel was added/overwritten is of course possible but also that this species was added after examination. So we should treat this with caution, agreed.

The other 2 (WG & K I) seem to be quite sure (common paragenesis).

Cheers
Roger

Hi all,

For the Clintonite, ask Monica Lewinsky ( lol )

Paul

CSSR on the slavikite label wasthe old name for Czecho-Slovakia in the communist era.

Peter Haas Wrote:
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> PS: You missed the first part of the thread, when
> we were dealing with labels that do not appear
> anymore, because Niels has edited his first post.


That is correct. I don't want to make it too complicated so I don't see any reason for keeping labels in my first post that are clear: more people will look at them while they are already clear :-)

BTW .. anyone an idea about this locale? New Caledonia is quite large.

any help appreciated :-)

Cheers
Roger

- Clintonite: Lago della Vacca, Cornone di Blumone, Brescia Province, Lombardy, Italy.

The hematite from Utah should be the Sprunger claim, not Spranger. Mike Sprunger held at least a few claims in the Thomas Range, notably for bixbyite.

Dana

Lago della Vacca added (was missing).
Toguchi mine also added.

Hallo,

Slavikit is original from Valachov Hill from Czech.

Locality " Mandat" is local name for some house´s near Hradištko willage. Between Sazava and Vltava river.
I don´t know about Slavikit from Mandat but it is possible.

Jan

Predonico, Bolzano (Bozen) is a possibility for the aragonite:

[www.mindat.org]

David

David Parfitt Wrote:
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> Predonico, Bolzano (Bozen) is a possibility for
> the aragonite:
>
> [www.mindat.org]
>
> David


How sure are you about that?

I hope it's not getting too much here on this forum but I once again added some new photos. I'm now going through my complete collection to finish any unresolved labels (and I probably will add more photos in the next couple of weeks) :-)
So thank you all for your time!

As for the selenite, it looks to me like material from Winnipeg, Canada. Here is a link:

[www.mindat.org]

Ilmenorutile (var. Iserin) comes from a small placer deposit in the Iser meadow (in German: Iserwiese): [www.mindat.org]

Stibiconite: The label refers to Klein Sankt Veit near Brückl, Carinthia, Austria. This is a small village in the Görtschitz valley, in the western rim of the Saualpe. Stibiconite is listed from Hapatnikkogel, a mountain that is located halfway between Klein Sankt Veit and Brückl: [www.mindat.org]

You should make yourself familiar with the search functions of our database. The localities for Phosgenite (Laurion = Lavrion) and Baotite are very easy to find.

Jasun is correct.

Peter Haas Wrote:
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> You should make yourself familiar with the search
> functions of our database. The localities for
> Phosgenite (Laurion = Lavrion) and Baotite are
> very easy to find.


The Baotite was indeed easy to find but I only searched for "baiyan" but it must be "bayan"

Of course Lavrion/Laurion) is familiar to me but I cannot find "Vryssaki"

Search results for Lavrion: [www.mindat.org]

Vrissaki is the last entry in the list.

Peter Haas Wrote:
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> Search results for Lavrion:
> [www.mindat.org]
>
> Vrissaki is the last entry in the list.


Thanx Peter!

Why are so many labels misspelled? This makes things quite complicated...

Well, some places have more than one way to write their name, especially places near linguistic frontiers. Some places have their names (or the spelling of it) changed during the ages, people make mistakes (remembering a name wrong, writing too quickly without verifying the actual spelling, faded old labels or with another "generation" of the way to form the letters), names in foreign languages are not alwau)ys easy to transcribe and every language has its own rules (and transcriptions may be repeted from one language to another, errors in foreign languages etc...And don'tb forget the deliberate faults, to hide the actual places.