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Nikon D60 for microscope work

Posted by Steve Stuart  
Nikon D60 for microscope work
July 25, 2009 05:28PM
I currently use a Nikon Coolpix 4500 mated to the right ocular of my Chinese-made National 10-40x zoom 'scope, using a Scopetronix MaxView lens system and a 37-28 mm T-ring. Results are decent when I use Combine ZP stacking software.

I'm looking into a Nikon D60 digital SLR camera and would like to know if others are using it for microscope work and how they mate it to the 'scope. I see two possibilities. One is using the phototube that I have from the old days when I used my Nikon F2 film body and just slipped it over the ocular and eyepiece. The other is to use the Scopetronix lens system and fit it to the D60 lens with an appropriate T-ring (37-52 mm perhaps).

Thanks for any and all input!

Steve Stuart
avatar Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
July 27, 2009 07:25AM
de    
Attention ! Attention!

Hello Steve,

you will run into problems with the exposure control when you try to use the NikonD60 for Photomicrography.
Here is an interesting article about the topic :

[www.lmscope.com]

I've decided for a Canon450D (i think called Rebel XSI in USA), after using Nikon Cooolpix for some years, wich works well.

Best regards
Elmar



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2009 08:34AM by Elmar Lackner.
Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
July 28, 2009 08:54AM
Steve,

DSLRs suffer from dust on the sensor in combination with long exposure times.
If You use then Helicon Focus or Combine Z You will not be satisfied at all due to artifacts in the picture. I tried that with a Canon D5, with poor results. Take a semi professional camera with sealed lenses like a Nikon Coolpix P6000 or a Canon G10. Those are actually the most preferable from my point of view.

Stephan
Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
July 29, 2009 12:59AM
Thanks for the excellent advice. The website link was very informative. I'm glad that I didn't buy on impulse.

Steve
avatar Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
October 04, 2009 03:15AM
An excellent choice, and prolly the best two choices, are the Panasonic FZ28 or LX3. Both offer full controls and manual focusing as well as advanced optics and white balance controls. They are rated the #1 compact and superzoom cameras on the market currently.

If a dSLR is your choice, the best possible one to go with is the Sigma SD14. First off there will be no dust issues as the cut pass filter is external and user removable and therefore easily to clean by simply using a hurricane blower. Secondly because of the FoveonX3 sensor used in the camera. The FoveonX3 sensor is the ONLY sensor on the market currently that will capture true and accurate colors because it captures RGB, whereas Bayer based sensor cameras(Canon, Nikon, Pentax, etc.) actually interpolate(make up, guess) the other two colors. Each photosite(think pixel) on a FoveonX3 sensor captures RGB, each photosite on a Bayer sensor only captures on of the RGB colors and then uses the surrounding pixels to interpolate(guess, make up, create out of nothing) the other two colors it did not capture, therefore leading to inaccurate colors. This is the main reason reds and any shade/variation of red will not capture properly using a Bayer based sensor. The output of the SD14 is equal to and exceeding that of a full frame camera like the Canon 5D.

I have owned Canon and full array of L glass to accompany it and a few years ago I sold it all and switched to Pentax and Sigma and Panasonic and couldn't be happier and my images are far better then they ever were with Canon. In fact, even though I have about $10K worth of macro equipment and microscope attachments for my dSLRs I seldom use them, I use the Panasonic FZ8K(predecessor of the FZ28) instead. I only use the dSLRs when I am doing images that need to go into large sized prints or ads larger then 1/4 page. Fort small prints, small ads, internet images I solely use the FZ8 by Panasonic. If you use the FZ28 in super macro mode + copy stand + Raynox MSN-202 you can achieve microscope magnifications without ever using the microscope!

This was done with the Raynox setup + FZ8K and is a shot of inclusions inside a 5 or 6mm round Spessartite garnet:
[www.flickr.com]

Another option is to simply snag a digiscoping adapter(the simple one piece deals not the big fancy multiple piece ones) and use any smaller compact camera on it. The following were done with my scope + digiscoping adapter + cheapo Sony DSC-S750:

Inclusions in a garnet:
[www.flickr.com]

Growth tubes in tourmaline:
[www.flickr.com]

Uranopyrocholore crystals in a sapphire giving an almost diagnostic origin of Pailin region as well as showing it has been heat treated:
[www.flickr.com]

Silk inclusions inside garnet:
[www.flickr.com]

Herkimer diamond crystal inside of a larger Herkimer and the small microscopic crystal even has its own inclusion, lol, taken with darkfield lighting:
[www.flickr.com]

The above were done with scope lighting and no external source. I didn't have my dual pipe fiber optics at the time. A better match up with the digiscoping attachment would be a Panasonic FX series camera IMHO though, but I got the Sony for $70 brand new so I took the deal, lol.

The benefits of the FZ28/FZ35 + Raynox though over the rest are the increased control over depth of field(DOF), enhanced manual focus mode, full RAW capabilities, tele macro mode, Leica designed and built optics(lens) that out classes anything in the P&S style cameras and would cost around $1500-$2500+ and take 3 separate lenses to cover the same range in a dSLR, full mechanical image stabilization that works best in its class, very good color reproduction and increased white balance controls, best white balance in its class which of course yields better image quality(IQ) and colors, all the controls a dSLR offer but in an all-in-one compact solution, lightweight, has easy to use modes that still perform superbly but yet offers indepth and full manual controls for the experienced user, etc. Not to mention the video mode is outstanding!!

For a dSLR I would go with the Sigma SD14 if you have photographic experience or are willing to learn, because the camera has no auto features and is NOT designed for beginners, but rather solely designed around professionals and has a learning curve due to this. If you have little experience I would then instead go with either the Pentax K-7 or if you have a budget the Pentax K-x or K-m/K2000, either one will do the job just fine.

For attaching to the scope your best choice is the Pentax adapter(or the knock offs) and if a non-Pentax camera get the M42 screw mount version and the proper M42 screw mount adapter for your camera.

Now, none of these are needed for the scope, but relevant for use without the scope:

For macro lenses, the following in order from best:
1. Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro(best macro lens on the market)
2. Tokina 100mm f/2.8 Macro
3. Tamron 90mm f/2.8 Macro
4. Sigma 70mm f/2.8 EX DG macro*(too short imho for proper lighting without spending a fortune on special lights)
5. Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro
6. Any of the OEM macros(only last due to price/performance ratio not being as good as the above lenses)
7. If on a serious budget, the Vivitar/Phoenix/Cosina 105mm f/3.5 Macro lens is your best bet, cheap toy like build quality, but optics are phenomenal for the price!

Optimally a bellow setup would be the choice, but they are extremely expensive. Extension tubes would be a must though and are very inexpensive.
avatar Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
October 04, 2009 08:07AM
Hi Jamey,
It's hard to judge performance from inclusion photographs, because of the optical influence of the host material. It's also necessary to specify an image width, unqualified magnification statements are useless.
best regards,
Dominik
avatar Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
October 05, 2009 03:45AM
Dominik Schläfli Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Jamey,
> It's hard to judge performance from inclusion
> photographs, because of the optical influence of
> the host material. It's also necessary to specify
> an image width, unqualified magnification
> statements are useless.
> best regards,
> Dominik


Not sure what you mean. If you lighting is proper host material plays little part on the results of the image. You just need to use proper lighting. Darkfield lighting will allow host material to essentially not effect the image results as long as you have your angles proper.

Image width, width of what? The inclusions? The inclusions are not measurable. They are barely visible with a 10x loupe. The inclusions are not much bigger then a pin dot. It is very easy to judge the size of something when a magnification is given IMHO, but maybe my experience plays a part in it. Not sure exactly what you want.

1mm in length crytsal from Keokuk Geode:
[www.flickr.com]

about a 6mm flux grown spinel:


Close up of flux inclusions in crystal above:


2mm green moisanite(SiC) crystal, image is of a maybe .25mm crystal face on the main crystal:


Another, maybe .25mm(1/4), crystal face jetting off a SiC crystal:
[www.flickr.com]

Another crystal face, about .5mm(1/2), SiC:
[www.flickr.com]
Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
October 20, 2009 01:10AM
Hello, all!

Any opinions about this device to mate a Nikon P6000 camera to my microscope?

Zarf's Microscope UniAdapter© for Nikon CoolPix P6000




Thanks,

Steve Stuart
Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
October 20, 2009 02:19AM
Here is another option I have found from Martin Microscopes. Any experience with it?

For basic stand-alone still image and simple video clip capture

MP6000PKG:
$899.00
MMC00L-P6K Adapter Only: $395.00


Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
October 22, 2009 02:50AM
Hi!

I sniped a Nikon P6000 camera on e-Bay last evening for a decent savings off retail prices. Now I need to mate it to my microscope. Can anyone vouch for the options I present above? Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Steve
CindySue
Re: Nikon D60 for microscope work
October 27, 2009 09:16PM
Trying to attach a Nikon P6000 to a microscope 14mm ring.....what size attachments do we use? Where do we get it? Thanks.
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