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Andara Crystal Scam

Posted by Yamael  
Yamael
Andara Crystal Scam
April 12, 2013 05:26AM
Authentic Monatomic Andara Crystal SCAM

Authentic Monatomic Andara Crystals are slag glass (from glass factories). They come from what is considered a garbage dump that has been abandoned. Search Ebay for “slag glass rock chunk” and you will find each and every color of every single “authentic monatomic andara crystal” that exists. A group of “sellers/healers” buy slag glass (knowing it is slag glass), then sell to each other and decide on names for these “crystals”.They break large pieces down to smaller sizes and scam honest people by the gram. They can authenticate it with signatures (from each other). Search both CURRENT and SOLD listings of slag glass rock chunk (even add “lot” to your search) and you will know for a fact that this is a true and horrific fraud in the name of purity and oneness. Thousands of innocent people are being scammed. Look at the uniform shaped andara pendants then search "crystal faceted drop" or "mixed crystal glass pendants" they are one and the same. The fraud isn't limited to Ebay. Search the net for Andara Crystals. Search Youtube for andara crystals. PLEASE HELP GET THIS INFORMATION OUT! People buying these pieces of slag glass are doing it for many types of healing as the sellers promise MANY results.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2013 09:32PM by Jolyon & Katya Ralph.
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 12, 2013 11:40AM
Thanks for the info. This is so sad - the proliferation of lies by people selling these, the gullible people or people with desperate medical problems that buy these. Anything to make a buck, I guess.
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 12, 2013 04:16PM
OH NO! You mean these things are fake???? Gosh, I was going to build a house using these instead of bricks....
Yamael
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 12, 2013 08:09PM
Don't be surprised if they try to sell one that will build the house FOR you lol
Please, spread the word though. A lot of people are falling for this "powerful crystal" confused smiley
Yamael
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 12, 2013 08:14PM
They are making a "buck". A 34 gram piece sells for $26-$188 on average. Some have paid over $3,000 for one piece. If only research for ANY and ALL products promising better health and well being would come BEFORE the purchase sad smiley
avatar Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 13, 2013 11:39AM
    
As an experienced glassblower, I can tell you its just cullet glass. But most of you already know this.
Yamael
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 13, 2013 12:27PM
Yes, it is cullet glass. The Ebay sellers I listed are, for a fact, selling the slag glass. All selling the SAME glass, from each other. I'm just trying to do the right thing now.
avatar Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 13, 2013 04:31PM
    
Most of the people that buy this stuff want to believe that it belies laws of physics. If you were to try to dissuade them, they would remonstrate your reasoning. Remember the old adage; a fool and his money are soon parted. Besides, it’s good for the economy! grinning smiley

Gene
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 14, 2013 02:59PM
    
Whether it is slag glass or a quartz crystal it is all the same as far as healing or whatever goes. As such I am not sure what the issue is here? If it were a natural glass would that make it any better in terms of what is claimed it can do? It all comes down to the power of suggestion, if you believe red socks will help the arthritis on your feet then they likely will to some degree simply on the basis of mind over matter. If you believe that Authentic Monatomic Andara Crystals will help you then they probably will to some degree, it really doesn't matter if they are slag glass or not. It is no different than Q-Ray bracelets or any number of mysterious healing things that have been sold throughout history. It is unfortunate that people are willing to pay so much for something that is no better than a rock off the beach.
Yamael
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 14, 2013 06:43PM
Reiner Mielke Wrote:
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> Whether it is slag glass or a quartz crystal it is
> all the same as far as healing or whatever goes.
> As such I am not sure what the issue is here? If
> it were a natural glass would that make it any
> better in terms of what is claimed it can do? It
> all comes down to the power of suggestion, if you
> believe red socks will help the arthritis on your
> feet then they likely will to some degree simply
> on the basis of mind over matter. If you believe
> that Authentic Monatomic Andara Crystals will help
> you then they probably will to some degree, it
> really doesn't matter if they are slag glass or
> not. It is no different than Q-Ray bracelets or
> any number of mysterious healing things that have
> been sold throughout history. It is unfortunate
> that people are willing to pay so much for
> something that is no better than a rock off the
> beach.

Yes, this is all true. The harm here is that price + false claims (product, certification of authenticity, location, etc.) = Fruad = Scam = A business built on corruption = Each scammer should have to pay all of the monies back to every single customer and deal with the punishment the law deems sufficient.
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 14, 2013 06:49PM
Indeed.

Why the crystal power criminals aren't being hounded by the DEA, FBI, IRS, INS, and Homeland Security I'll never understand.

I'd like to see the people writing and flogging the crystal power books arrested and perp-walked in handcuffs out of every show they sneak into.

Fraud is fraud, but I guess some kinds of crime are more important than others to the powers that be.
Yamael
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 14, 2013 07:42PM
Tim Jokela Jr Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Indeed.
>
> Why the crystal power criminals aren't being
> hounded by the DEA, FBI, IRS, INS, and Homeland
> Security I'll never understand.
>
> I'd like to see the people writing and flogging
> the crystal power books arrested and perp-walked
> in handcuffs out of every show they sneak into.
>
> Fraud is fraud, but I guess some kinds of crime
> are more important than others to the powers that
> be.

The FBI has been informed as well as Dateline. There should be some BIG changes SOON.
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 14, 2013 10:39PM
I'm still trying to figure out the "monatomic" part - a single atom? Did they maybe mean to use "monotonous" instead?
avatar Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 14, 2013 11:18PM
    
Tim,

This really isn’t any different than any other “snake oil” that promises to erase wrinkles or make you better endowed. Though we know that these things don’t work, it would be very difficult to prove in court of law. How much money would it cost to scientifically disprove them? You can add psychics, channelers, dowsers and a host of others to the list. I’m guessing, but I’ll bet that the fraud laws have some unwritten threshold for the use of common sense, below which you are out of luck.

Cheers,
Gene
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 14, 2013 11:51PM
    
Hello Doug,

Maybe monatomic in this case is meant to mean only one type of atom or molecule? In other words another way of saying pure? ie monatomic water is pure H2O? and in this case pure slag. Besides monatomic sounds more mysterious and important than just "pure". LOL
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 15, 2013 06:45PM
Gene;

Common sense is far from common. I seem to recall that about 60% of Americans believe in angels.

A six year old can devise a simple double-blind test to debunk all this crystal power nonsense.

It is simple fraud, perpetrated by scum that target people that are sick.

America has unlimited funds to "protect" it's citizens by by vigilantly persecuting them for truly minor crimes, like smoking weed, or parking illegally, or putting up a fence that's a foot too high.

Yet the seething underbelly of psychics, alternative medicine, organized religion, telemarketers, and other dirtbags, defrauding the gullible for billions every year, goes untouched.

Priorities are a little confused it seems.
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 15, 2013 07:01PM
Reiner-
Think I've got it. Instead of "monatomic", they meant "monotonic", which means single tone, or, loosely, single frequency. Obviously its related to the chakra and the color frequency and the tooth spacing and the spacing of the Ley lines across the planet....I have to pull out my old quantum physics textbook, calculus text, old issues of Rolling Stone, and related internet postings to figure out the relationship.
Yamael
Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 15, 2013 08:25PM
Doug, you don't have to waste your time on that. It is said that the andara crystal is found under white powder residue from unicorns' horns rubbing together in play. (lol) If you don't buy that story, the all-knowing guy that sells these crystals in Hawaii says that they aren't made out of "anything", they "fell from the sky".
avatar Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 15, 2013 09:10PM
It's a common misconception that andara is produced by unicorn horns. It comes from unicorns, alright, but (like all other crap) from the opposite end as the hoen.
avatar Re: Andara Crystal Scam
April 15, 2013 09:42PM
Speaking of Homeland Security, Rod Tyson recently sent me, or more accurately is sending me a shipment of Gormanite specimens from the Yukon. He lives in Nova Scotia and the shipment was seized and held by Homeland Security because the specimens were not marked Made in Canada, or Product of Canada. I got a call from a nice lady from Homeland Security/Customs saying she might be able to release the shipment if I could send them a copy of the label I proposed to put on each specimen. Transparently some or all of the functions of the customs people have been taken over by the Department of Homeland Security. I sent them one of our normal labels showing the name of the species and a complete locality Rapid Creek, Dawson Mining District, Yukon Territory, Canada. Linda got back to me saying that was not good enough because also on the label was the name and address of our company and that people might mistake the specimen as being made by my company and that people had the right to know where it came from. She agreed to release it "In Bond" and when It arrived I had to fill out paper work stating that I had labeled the specimens correctly and send them back to Homeland Security and I must withhold the specimens from sale till Homeland Security gave us a release and that they reserved the right to send out an inspector to insure that this had been done.

I told her that the specimen was not really a product of Canada because it had been made millions of years ago by natural geochemical processes that took place in the earth long before there was even a political entity called Canada. She said that made no difference. Then I asked her. If this specimen came from a phosphate mine where most of these specimens are ground up and processed into chemicals for industrial use and those chemicals were shipped into this country to be made into various products, how would the customers who bought the products know that they were buying something that was made in Canada or were a product of Canada. She didn't have an answer for that one. But the law is the law and those who enforce it don't have a whole lot of choice about how it is enforced.

If she ever came to the Tucson Gem and Mineral show and saw the vast quantities of goods there from other parts of the world, and how few of them were labeled with their country of origin she would probably have a heart attack. Every time, I as an importer think I have been subjected to every possible problem and indignity that it is possible for an importer to experience, at least once a year I am given some new hoop to jump through.

Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.
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