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Arkansas Diamond FRAUD! Big Time!

Posted by Justin Butt  
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March 17, 2008 02:31AM
Eric Blake has purchased diamonds from India, taken them to the "Crater of Diamonds" state park in Arkansas, "Found" these stones, registered them with the park, taken them and sold them on eBay and on his website.

Want to see all of the DAMNING evidence? It's pretty good...

Well, either Google Eric Blake, Diamonds
or
Hey Jolyon, can you post a link to fakeminerals below this message?
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March 17, 2008 10:33AM
gb    
Great bit of investigative journalism there Justin,

Please everyone read this:

[fakeminerals.com]

Jolyon



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2008 03:10PM by Jolyon Ralph.
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March 17, 2008 12:44PM
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Hi Justin,

As the organizer of the AMT case on Arkansas Diamonds at Tucson (and co-author on the book chapter), I want to thank you for your research on this. This "situation" has been known for a while now to several people who stay current on news related to the Crater, but there was never any hard evidence.

These types of scams hurt the Park, the veteran (and honest) miners who work tirelessly to find these diamonds and the Murfreesboro community. I can assure you the Sate Park has been notified as well. Finally, let me assure everyone that none of the diamonds shown in the AMT case and book were connected in any way with Eric Blake.

Thanks! Jim
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March 17, 2008 01:31PM
gb    
LOL...

"You get out of it what you put into it," said Eric Blake, 31, a carpenter from Wisconsin

How VERY true!

(see [diamondsnews.com])
Re: Arkansas Diamond FRAUD! Big Time!
March 17, 2008 02:20PM
Justin, great piece, congrats!

Phil.
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March 17, 2008 09:17PM
gb    
I'm glad to see the 'spat' between Justin & Craig has been removed ... no place for such comments on this forum & Jolyon it sounded like you lost your cool english reserve too ! :0)

Thank you Justin for bring this scam to our attention.
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March 17, 2008 10:34PM
gb    
For now I've removed messages. If it continues, I'll be forced to remove fingers with rusty scissors.

Jolyon
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March 17, 2008 11:47PM
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Darn! I miss all the good posts!
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March 17, 2008 11:49PM
Dear Justin;
You are a HERO, on the magnitude of the investigators who busted the "Pithdown Man"; Some day I'll meet you & will consider it an HONOR to be able to shake your hand.
Humbly, Steve
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March 17, 2008 11:59PM
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You snooze you lose! Actually, it made me a bit uncomfortable to read those posts earlier today. So am glad they are gone too.


I saw that Eric's website is up and active, it also listed his email address. I take it he has no remorse over his actions?
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March 18, 2008 12:03AM
Very interesting story, thanks Justin !Greedyness eeess so bad thing...

By the way, I'm just half out of topic. But are foreigners allowed to search at Diamond crater and other US open places of the same kind ?

cheers !

Aymeric
johan k
Re: Arkansas Diamond FRAUD! Big Time!
March 18, 2008 12:07AM
Piltdown!
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March 18, 2008 12:25AM
Yes, Aymeric, in any national or state park in the USA, and every tourist has to pay the same entrance fee, regardless of nationality. (I myself get really pissed off in countries where they have one entrance price for natives and a much higher price for foreign tourists, a phenomenon I've observed in eastern Europe and some parts of Latin America.)
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March 18, 2008 12:55AM
Hey Aymeric,

Indeed, I've NEVER gone to a national park without half of the people being from another country! So, come, enjoy America! It looks like lots of other places!

Everyone,

Thank you SO much for the great response! I'm so glad you all like it! Don't forget that I had an extra helper, my investigative reporter, plus, the indian dealer that released the information. He certainly didn't want any part of this scam!

Thanks!
Justin

PS, feel free to spread this far and wide, let's get it into the mainstream news.
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March 18, 2008 01:15AM
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Hi Justin,

I think it would be a good idea for you to write an article about your team's" research for Rock & Gem, Lost Treasure or Western & Eastern Treasure -- so that the wider treasure hunting community knows about it as well. It is a community that is likely to be loyal watchers of "Best Places to Find Cash & Treasures" and other such programs.

It's too bad that this stuff brings out both the best and worst in people.

Jim
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March 18, 2008 01:26AM
gb    
Justin,

Best thing to do is track down every magazine online that printed the news report of his diamond find, and email the journalist who printed the story.

I'm sure a few of them will follow up on this.

Jolyon
Re: Arkansas Diamond FRAUD! Big Time!
March 18, 2008 01:50AM
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Jolyon,

I see Eric still has a profile on Mindat: [www.mindat.org]

Will this be taken down?

Thx, Jim
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March 18, 2008 02:36AM
gb    
I'm not sure. We should probably remove the diamond photos he has uploaded though.

Jolyon
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March 18, 2008 02:42AM
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I agree with the idea of removing his diamond photos. It is alarming that --despite him knowing that his fraud has been exposed -- his site is still active. He is clearly not taking this seriously, and he has hurt and continues to hurt the Park and the veteran miners who are honest and work harder than any of us know to find these rare stones.

Jim
Hal Guyot
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March 18, 2008 02:50AM
Hello everyone! Geo-investigator Hal Guyot here.

Looks like I missed the action on here as well. But I'd like to give a word or two on how this all started.

I'm good friends with Malay Hirani of sonitools.com, and we chat a lot about diamonds. So one day, we were talking about arkansas diamonds and we were looking at Eric's site and Malay told me he had sent him two lots of diamonds. From there we pieced things together, along with the timing of events, and I contacted Justin since I love his site as well. And he wrote things up and broke it from there.

On a side note, Eric had bought the two lots of diamonds from Malay back in October on credit, and then stopped responding to Malay and changed his phone number so that he wouldn't have to pay. It wasn't till Malay hounded him this week that he made a partial payment of 2/5's the original bill.

So I think Malay deserves some thanks on all this as well. And he's got a great selection of Panna diamonds if you'd like one for your collection.

On to the next case! The curious case of the missing trilobites from britain...
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March 18, 2008 03:01AM
gb    
Sounds like a movie plot - "One of our Trilobites is missing"

Now, if only someone could do a REAL investigation into the "Himmelfurst Silvers" - The explanations I've seen publically and the things I've heard in private don't tally up at all.

Jolyon
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March 18, 2008 03:02AM
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Eric's diamond photos deleted from mindat.

Jolyon
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March 18, 2008 03:49AM
Thanks Guyot.. ! it was realy a coincidence of meeting with you at right time.

I think my loss is worth it, as this will save all the hardworking miners and their efforts.

Eric could have continued doing business with our company if he disclosed the origin of the diamond. Because it would have been still a profitable business. As these diamonds have same fire & luster.
But he choose to show it as Arkanasas diamond to increase his profit and our loss smiling smiley

Thanks Justin & Guyot..

Regards,
Malay
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March 18, 2008 04:21AM
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Bravo Justin!

You are the man! Now if we could just get to the bottom of the theft ring who is stealing minerals!

J, what do you think about putting stolen mineral photos as photos of the day??

KOR
E
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March 18, 2008 04:33AM
Hello Justin,

What a brilliant piece of investigative work!!....Bravo to you!!

Cheers, Joe
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March 18, 2008 11:29AM
Scientifically speaking, it's bad enough when people get localities wrong through geographical error, bad communication or vague labelling, but to deliberately attribute specimens to another locality shows a complete lack of any scientific integrity, and to do it for grossly enhanced profit is plain fraud; the actions of the lowest of the low.

I hope this is followed up as a criminal activity by the appropriate authorities.

Pete N.
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March 18, 2008 12:00PM
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Thanks to Justin and in particular to Guyot and to Malay Hirani for exposing this.

I don't normally do this as you know, but I think in this case Malay deserves it - so if you want to buy nice brown INDIAN Diamond crystals, then why not visit [www.sonitools.com]

Jolyon
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March 18, 2008 02:12PM
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As a collector of American diamonds, this one hits especially hard for me. I was familiar with his website and ebay selling. The newspaper stories about him would lead a person to believe he was legit. I'm glad I never did buy from him.

In the meantime, his website does encourage anyone to "contact him" with questions, so maybe I'll send him an email. Maybe if he gets a few, he might change his page.

Jen



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/2008 02:48PM by Jennifer Nemitz.
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March 18, 2008 02:54PM
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Folks,

I did go ahead and email the Arkansas diamond website and received a reply in short order. He is defending himself and providing an alternate explanation. I'm reluctant to copy the reply directly into the board. If anyone is curious as to his explanation, I'm sure he would answer similar questions. I'll leave it up to you if you believe him. Please note I'm not taking sides - just was curious as to what his reply would be.

Jen
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March 18, 2008 04:20PM
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I contacted Eric as well. His explanation was as follows:

" This article has been completely blown out of context. I have never denied that I purchased diamonds from India. However, these diamonds were used in a necklace for a friend's wife, not brought into the Crater.

The article that mentions these stones is not very accurate. Yet, I should not be surprised when it is the sole purpose to look for anything to discredit. Ironically, Mr. Hirani is still selling the exact diamonds I supposedly registered at the Crater. This is an interesting fact. Much like many facts that were overlooked in writing this article.

As for my website and the e-bay posting, they are legitimate diamonds from the Crater. I'm sure you have taken a look at them, they are not the diamonds in the article. At this time I am trying to have all diamonds verified as originating from the Crater. When I have this, the appropriate actions will be taken against these slanderous authors.

Never was there any intention, nor did I ever market the diamonds I purchased from India as Arkansas Diamonds. I was simply doing a favor for a friend. This favor has cost me dearly as it seems."

Malay, do you have any records of the exact weights of the individual diamonds you sold to Eric? In the interest of fairness, I am interested in investigating the validity of any of the details that Eric has provided above.

Jim
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March 18, 2008 04:52PM
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Is there a way to prove diamonds come from a particular deposit? It may well be the Arkansas diamonds are different, but I thought there weren't any specific indicators that helped identify diamond sources scientifically (hence the problems with tracking 'conflict diamonds').

Jolyon
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March 18, 2008 05:05PM
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Jolyon,

As far as I know, there is no particular way to associate a diamond to a particular deposit. Some have tried using inclusions. Dr. Peter Heaney at Penn State is using a blue diamond's phosphorescence spectra to "fingerprint" specific diamonds. The purpose would be to identify stolen diamonds, even if they had been recut. He has fingerprinted all the blues in the Smithsonian. The research may be on the way towards identifying locality by comparing unknown locality spectra to known, but not there yet.

Jen
Hal Guyot
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March 18, 2008 05:07PM
I should note that Eric has removed all 4 of the diamonds that we used for photo comparison...

Also, one of the diamonds even has matching inclusions and striations. Which I don't believe is a coincidence.

-Hal
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March 18, 2008 05:13PM
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Although there is a certain look to most AR diamonds that experienced collectors and dealers can recognize, there is no way to prove conclusively that a diamond came from the Crater of Diamonds. This is why people should buy only diamonds from rare localities from known, trusted sources.

Jim
Hal Guyot
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March 18, 2008 05:41PM
Hey Jim,

Email me using my email on the article and I'll send you a smoking gun.

-Hal
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March 19, 2008 12:11AM
Jolyon - it is funny how plentiful these silvers are these days....
I remember a German dealer/collector, Dr. Gebhardt, who, many years ago, came to the conclusion, that at least some of these could be old-time lab-grown "antiques" rather than natural specimens. at the time most people laughed about the idea (and still do), not taking this for serious (at least "officially"winking smiley. There was another guy who even described his methods how to GROW wires, I think it was in the Min.Rec. a few years ago(?), but I do not remember the issue.
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March 19, 2008 12:58AM
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I asked Eric Blake today for a photograph of this alleged necklace for which he claimed to have used the Indian diamonds. He stated one was forthcoming, but I have nothing yet.

I then asked him to provide a highly detailed description of the necklace in order to see if he would be able to give one and to see if this description matched any photograph received. In this way, he could not locate a random photo to meet his needs or prepare a necklace and then give a description.

Absolutely no response from him. He was quick to respond to earlier messages when he was defending himself in principle, but now is suddenly silent when he is asked for details in support of that defense.

Jim
Hal Guyot
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March 19, 2008 01:31AM
Hey Jim,

Could you asked him out of what stone he cut this 2.09 ct pear cut or what's the certificate number?

[www.arkansasdiamondjewelry.com]

I'm curious smiling smiley
-Hal
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March 19, 2008 02:03AM
I just visited his website, and 5 minutes later, EVERYTHING is gone. Here's his message to us:

"Due to recent allegations of Diamond " Salting " all diamonds have been removed from our website until they can be verified by an Independant Expert in Arkansas Diamonds. Check back for reposting when Inspection is complete.

Thank You"

Hehe, we got him good.

Regards,
David Aldridge
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March 19, 2008 02:08AM
Hmm, according to public court records (from the state of Wisconsin court system web site) a Mr. Eric Blake, born 1975, has had a felony conviction for theft by fraud, and has repeatedly been found guilty of writing worthless checks. Could this be the very same Eric Blake, age 32, who made the news last year with his incredibly lucky diamond finds? Coincidence?
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March 19, 2008 03:08AM
Dear forum members;
The phrase "oh, what tangled webs we weave;when at first we practice to deceive" is in FULL operation, here; if Eric Blake is checking this forum, be aware that all those e-mls you are sending are EVIDENCE & the excuses you are using WILL be checked out, to the fullest. Peter, that's not coincidence; that's a pattern of behavior. Whether those 4 realize it yet or not; this whole thing is about to come crashing down w/double digit stays at our friendly federally funded ENFORCED housing facilities. As he hasn't paid Mr. Hirani & isn't likely to, that means the State Dept. is likely to get involved, as well as international trade committee, &, since he used e-ml to order the parts for his scheme, international wire fraud. For here in the states, he'll be charged w/conspiracy (if he didn't sell any of them), interstate fraud (if he did), perpetrating a public hoax, damaging a public parks reputation (by getting those certificate, he's opened the park system to a serious loss of trust & reliability), in using the term "slanderous authors" he's opened himself to several lawsuits (small potatoes, as he'll NEVER be able to pay ANYTHING towards that except cigarette money; same for poor Malay) &, through his girlfriend being an accomplice, she stands to lose custody of her children.
Blake will have to answer for ALL the things he has used to cover & failure to produce a single item will mean severe consequences & foster total disbelief in the jury. I believe, once the investigation starts, he will NOT get ANY backing from the Park service as to possible authenticity & they MAY work EXTRA hard to find SOMETHING in those diamonds that ISN'T in ANY park diamonds. No, I don't know what it would be; but, there's BOUND to be something. Isotopes, inclusions, radio stuctural defects,anomalous spectra response, SOMETHING! More damning, he MUST produce specimens or receipts & that necklace, as he's mentioned them in the E-MLS! In covering his tracks as he backpedals, he's creating a wall of "disbelief" in his wake. I DO feel sorriest for his girlfriend (she walked in; she just didn't realize the FULL consequences to her FAMILY), who must SOON decide whether to turn state's evidence, in order to fashion SOME sort of visitation rights for her children; something better than what the feds generally grant. If she doesn't act soon, she be treated as a full participant & that means once a month visits, if she's lucky.
Your friend, Steve
Hal Guyot
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March 19, 2008 03:34AM
Aww Steve! Don't make me start feeling sorry for the guy!

Ya, after this whole thing, I now believe in Karma. Part of it was that if Malay and I were never me and became friends in the first place, this would keep going on with only suspicions and no evidence. (Thank you google!)

I'm still wondering what arkansas diamond he cut his 2.09 ct pear cut diamond out of, haha.

-Hal
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March 19, 2008 03:44AM
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Hal,

He's not responding to anymore questions, so the mystery of the size of the rough diamond that cut the 2.09-ct stone he's offering will remain a secret.

I can tell you that it would need to be a VERY large crystal (for the locality) -- and of fine quality to yield that particular gem you saw. I have a near flawless 1.15-ct Crater diamond (heart shaped, you can see it in the AMT book chapter on AR diamonds) that was cut from a 4.14-ct piece of rough. Thus, the 2+ carat stone would probably have been on the order of 5-6+ carats and then very clean internally.

I know of very few Crater diamonds that would yield something like that, and all of those stones are either in private or museum collections. A documented cut AR diamond is a rare treasure indeed!

Jim
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March 19, 2008 05:42AM
Sadly, everything that Steven just said above very well might come into fruition. Don't mess with Arkansas!

Ok, here is the FUNNY, FUNNY stuff. If you do a google search for the interior pages of his website, like the old wholesale section he took down immediatly on the first day of the story, well it is all in Google Cache, so we ALL have copies of his website, before he removed anything and they have already been forwarded over to the state of Arkansas.

He has said repeatedly that he is going to have the diamonds checked out, and guess what. A state represenative from Arkansas will be HAPPY to do that for him!

There are tons of things that I COULD say, but let's just leave that for later...=)
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March 19, 2008 05:54AM
Ouch...Eric is a big time felon already. Ouch.

Ouch.

Google Wisconson Court System.

Ouch.

Ouch.
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March 19, 2008 05:56AM
For some more fun, check out the metadata on some of the images off of the cached pages! Haha, he was quite careless there!

Regards,
David Aldridge
Hal Guyot
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March 19, 2008 06:12AM
Metadata?
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March 19, 2008 06:18AM
Please reply directly to the CON.

Too funny!
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March 19, 2008 06:24AM
I have been interested in Crater diamonds for a few years now and have been looking them up wherever possible (including the AMT display). They seem to me to have an unique habit that to me seems different than other localities.
Do they at all resemble Indian diamonds? I am familiar w/ most african, russian, and Brazilian diamonds none of which look like those from Murfeesboro.
Hal Guyot
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March 19, 2008 06:52AM
Hey Ronald,

The Panna diamonds actually do look more similar to Arkansas diamonds than any of the more productive diamond localities. They have smooth shapes, have a very similar smooth luster, have similar shape profiles, and come in brown, yellow, and white with great clarity. Go check out sonitools.com to see Malay Hirani's selection of Panna diamonds and judge for yourself.

- Hal
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March 19, 2008 07:10AM
I think that the Panna mine is a Lamprolite deposit, like Murfreesboro. Most diamond deposits are kimberlite pipes, which produce the bulk of the world's diamonds. But the Murfreesboro and Panna Mine are both Lamprolite pipes. Interesting, is it not?

Apparently, people like diamonds. Defraud some diamonds, big trouble.
Scam some Azeztulite, nothing to be afraid of.
Well, people like diamonds!
Azeztulite, not so much.
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March 19, 2008 04:56PM
Justin -

You Rock My Friend! Awesome work - kudos to you, Brandy, and Hal!

David -

I am curious, I can't find out what data you are gleaning from the metadata - I am dying to know. What does it say?

Jim -

Have you (or has anyone for that matter) heard back from him on any of the details you asked him?
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March 20, 2008 04:18AM
[www.postcrescent.com]

Want to see some half stepping?

Unfortunatly, there is more to the story coming out each day.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2008 09:40AM by Justin Butt.