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A fifty year history of the Tucson show.

Posted by James Spann  
avatar A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 03, 2008 07:02PM
    
Go grab your 50 year history book and let's talk about some of the fun people and stuff in there. I have been slowly meeting a number of the people in the book and wonder at some that I never hear about.
Does anyone know if some of the names below are still active or around at shows anymore?

1980's list ( 1980-1989 ) .. It wasn't that long ago, but I don't recognize many of the names. Does anyone know if these folks are still active and what stories are there that earned them a spot in this special issue? I would love to know more about them. Let's keep the unkind comments off of here, just in case someone has a beef with anyone.

Ken and Betty Roberts
Julian Blakely
Paul and Hilda Seel
Charles and Marcelle Weber
Carolyn Wilson
Harvey Gordon
Tony Potucek
Bruce Runner
Mark Feinglos
Kery and Edy Siber
Kay Robertson
Hilde and Milt Sclar
Barbara and Forrest Cureton
Rosemary Saunders
Gus Meister
Bill Henderson
Stan Lesnick
Cyril Kovac
Bill Schneider
David New
Art Roe
John Parnau
William Metropolis
Benny and Elva Fenn
Michel Jouty
Adrianna and Renato Pagano
David Shannon
Alfredo Ferri
John Shannon
Alain Carion
Chuck Turley
Pete Olson
Tony Otero
Wendy Melanson
Chris Pfaff
Sandy Ludlum
Dwight Weber
Sharon Cisneros
Rustam Kothavala
Peter Keller
Paul Clifford
Alvao Lucio
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 03, 2008 07:48PM
    
Kay Robertson - see profile in March/April 2007 Min Rec
Sharon Cisneros - Mineralogical Research Co. - mindat advertiser
David Shannon - deceased, Arizona mineral dealer
Barbara and Forrest Cureton - rare mineral dealers - sold out to excalibur minerals
William Metropolis - recently left Harvard Museum as curator.
Alain Carion - French mineral dealer
Harvey Gordon - Nevada mineral dealer - Zapot pegmatite

Art Roe see: [www.minsocam.org]

Frank & Wendy Melanson recently sold Hawthorneden.
Charles and Marcelle Weber - Mt Ste Hilaire micromounters are both deceased.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2008 08:01PM by David Von Bargen.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 03, 2008 07:49PM
    
A lot of them are still around, some, however, are not. Betty Roberts passed away a number of years ago. Ken is now married to Rosemany Saunders. Michel Jouty and Alain Carrion both recently passed away. Rusty Kothavala, once a top importer of Indian zeolites is now out of the business. Sharon Cisneros is still in business (Mineralogical Research Company) but has had some bad health and doesnt get around as much.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 03, 2008 09:37PM
    
Thanks Jesse. I have spent a lot of time going through this publication and often wondered why I didn't hear their names, or stories regarding their adventures. I think that the people make the business and wanted to learn more about their contributions back in the 80's.
Just sentimental and curious.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 03, 2008 10:33PM
Gail,

Benny and Elva Fenn live in Los Crucas NM. They are the best, at just about every Marty show, major importers of Mexican minerals and Benny is the one who made the big score of mind blowing Mimetites from Mexico in the 60's. Benny now imports most all of the Rasberry Garnets, Smithsonite and gem grade yellow labradorite you see.

Sharon Cisneros and her husband Gene live in the San Francisco area and they are people after my own heart, selling radioactives and asbestos. =) They focus on a more scientific approch to mineral sales and I LOVE that. Plus, Sharon's mineral display cases are TOO GOOD. She has suites of minerals from all kinds of crazy regions of the world in her collection.

You didn't meet Harvey Gordon at the Westward Look show? He was one of the dealers. Him and Lithosphere teamed up and they were going to be at the Dallas show, but they dropped out.

Kay Robinson is awesome. She would always come to the Culver City show and browse around. I would end up talking to her for at least an hour, but that's pretty much how it goes with her. Don't get me wrong, I could chat with her for HOURS. She is a treasure chest of knowlege.

You might have meet Adrianna and Renato Pagano at the main show at least. They are the italian couple who helps at the ROCKS AND MINERALS! booth, and they are the Italian wing of the Mineralogical Record. Gems.

I never meet Tony Ortaro, but I always wanted to. He was the guy in charge of the Kelly mine. Smithsonite, woohoo. He passed away a short while ago.

Gus Meister was a major member of the M.S.S.C. and ran the Pasadena show for several years. I've talked to him several times, but he is old enough now to deserve not to hear from the likes of me. His daughter is/was? also very active in the M.S.S.C. I don't know now, cause I haven't seen a MSSC bulletin in over a year.

Go to the Mineralogical Record's website and they have the coolest biography section ever.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2008 07:44AM by Justin Butt.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 03, 2008 11:17PM
Hi Gail...here is a few...regards, Joe


Hilde and Milt Sclar : Firm of Oceanside Imports, active in the 60's
William Metropolis : Curator, American Museum Of nat History, NY.
Michel Jouty: French Mineral Dealer
Adrianna and Renato Pagano : The famous and immortal Italian dealer
David Shannon...R.I.P.... Dealer, died too young
Wendy Melanson: Frank Melanson, Hawthorneden Minerals, Wife
Rustam Kothavala : Most famous Indian Mineralogist, brought out the deep green apop's in the 80"s
Peter Keller: Director at G.I.A.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 03, 2008 11:19PM
William Metropolis : Curator, American Museum Of nat History, NY.

sorry, an error....left Harvard, now at Stacks In New York City....Joe
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 04, 2008 01:02AM
    
Gail,
Cyril Kovac is still an active mineral dealer based here in Melbourne, Australia. As a matter of fact I spent a very pleasant morning yesterday with Cyril going through some of his mineral stock. I think its a few years since he's been to Tucson, but he's a great bloke, an honest dealer, and a good friend.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 04, 2008 02:12AM
    
Thanks everyone, so far this has been quite enlightening.
Malcolm, you will have to tell Cyril that you expect his ears were burning?
Glad to hear he is doing well and has friends like you to keep his good name going!
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 04, 2008 07:21AM
    
Cyris is first rate in my books, since he couldn't be in town when I was, he put me onto 3 collectors to catch up with, including Malcolm. Now that is a fine fellow, as there was no profit in it for him, but he still helped out...
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 04, 2008 03:11PM
    
I like to see how people "touch" other people's lives. I have had a number of private emails telling me how so and so mentored them, etc. People in the 50 year book influenced so many, including us just by the stories we have read, the cabinets of minerals displayed and the camaraderie they shared. It inspired us to enter our first case of minerals in Tucson.
Looking through the many photos I have seen Evan Jones grow up ( If one ever considers Evan to BE a grownup! ha ha! )
I have seen the evolution of the shows, the growth as well as the end of the Desert Inn. ( I have heard amazing stories, both good and bad, about that hotel! )
I am so glad that the MinRec decided to compile all that info and offer it to us all. Many people paved the way for the great success we see at the shows now.
I know many of you have been around for a long time, I love to hear your stories of racous behavior, silly jokes and amusing tattle telling. This is a hobby/industry like no other!
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 04, 2008 05:28PM
Gail, Paul Seel is deceased. I am not sure about Hilda, but I think that she is gone also.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
April 04, 2008 06:47PM
    
Oh, how sad Donald. They looked like such an interesting couple and I wondered what their story was. I figured a number of the people in the book are gone, but am hoping to hear some of their history and contributions.
Thanks for letting me know.
Dona Leicht
Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
May 31, 2008 07:36PM
Hi Gail...

I stumbled upon this thread today - I can tell you about everyone on the list since I keep in touch with most of them (except those deceased, but some would say I talk to the dead most of the time). When I see you I'll bring you up to date on all of them. Springfield perhaps?
Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
May 31, 2008 08:07PM
    
Gail, many if not most of them are probably included in the biographies section on the MR website, but I note that Harvey Gordon, for one is not listed.
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
May 31, 2008 10:17PM
Jesse--

Alain Carion passed away recently? I had done much business with him during the Tucson show this year, and exchanged emails for several weeks afterwards. Do you have any more information? I searched the web and could find no information on his death. Thanks!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/31/2008 10:26PM by Michael D. Cline.
Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
May 31, 2008 10:23PM
    
Hey Justin,

Tony Otero was a super man. I only met him once, in 2001. I collected at the Nitt Mine dumps (I believe that was the name) that he was tending. I paid $5 and he guaranteed me minerals or I could select a $5 rock form his little shop. When I returned from the dumps (accessed with a 1984 Volvo wagon, which he laughed when he saw because of the bad ass road) with nice specimens of smithsonite, he still insisted I take a $5 specimen from him. We talked for an hour or so about the old days of collecting and he let me see some of his absolutely wonderful smithsonite cabinet specimens. I have thought about him many times since that day.

Cheers.
Ian
Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
May 31, 2008 10:54PM
Michael, I saw Alain Carion, looking cheerful and healthy, at the Osaka show less than 4 weeks ago! Perhaps, as Mark Twain said, news of his death has been greatly exaggerated.
Cheers,
Alfredo
Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
May 31, 2008 11:22PM
Hi Miss Gail:

in your VIP list, there is an american collector, which I know as a reliable email pal friend; as I know is an eminence in his medicine speciality; his name is Mark Feingloss, endocrinologist, and prominent collector.

Perhaps some of your contacts (I guess miss Dona Leicht) may give you his coordinates.

....And of course, (but it's not a matter of patriotism), I will sponsor Adriana & Renato Pagano; they are not just dealers....They are fantastic and lovely people to meet and speak; Renato has plenty stories to tell....by the way, if you meet tem, give my friendly and brotherhood greetings.

Maurizio Dini
an italian living in Chile
avatar Re: A fifty year history of the Tucson show.
June 01, 2008 06:08AM
    
Dona, will see you in Springfield.
Maurizio, nice to hear such lovely things about mineral people...how is it, by the way, being an Italian living in Chile????
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