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Techniques for CollectorsLabels

7th Mar 2011 14:58 UTCEddy Vervloet Manager

Hi guys;


for ages now, I am trying to find labels that fit on the standard micro boxes,

so anything in the 20-25 mm range or so, but I cannot find any! None of the

major label brands like avery seem to sell them. But of course they exist!

So HELP! Where do all of you purchase these small labels please?


Thanks for your help,

7th Mar 2011 18:33 UTCDon Saathoff Expert

Many years ago. back in the days of pin-drive computer printers I found a roll of 25 X 125mm mailing labels, gummed, and I just roll off 20 or 30 labels, put them in my paper cutter and slice off 25mm wide strips of 25 X 25mm labels. I'm sure you can find sheets of 25mm X ?mm that you can trim the same way. Just an idea....


Don S.

7th Mar 2011 21:02 UTCEddy Vervloet Manager

I have considered that, Don, and will resort to that option if I cannot find precut labels.

It is just frustrating me to know that they exist, but I just cannot seem to find them! hehe.

And if I ask micromounters who use them, they say "oh, those? Had them for years!"...

7th Mar 2011 21:07 UTCPeter Andresen Expert

Hi Eddy!


For the bottom of my boxes I use "Herma - Haftetiketten" 24x24 mm. Made in Germany and with the product no 2460.

I haven't bought new for a couple of year as I had to order 10 packages with 768 lables in each... I have chared with some friends, so I have to order new ones soon.


Cheers

Peter

7th Mar 2011 21:20 UTCFred & Linda Elsnau

Hello Eddy,

When I started micro mounting, I decided to go “archival”.. The boxes I use are 7/8” square and the main labels are placed on the bottom with a mineral name/location only label on the top. They are printed on acid free, bond paper using a 6.5 size font with a laser printer. After printing, the paper is sealed with two coats of Krylon brand “workable Fixative” (available at art supply stores, any similar product should work.) This coating has a flat, non-reflective surface and protects the label from abrasion and absorption of dirt, etc.


I break the surface of the box bottom with a medium flat file and apply the labels with archival white glue. The boxes I use have a flat bottom so I glue the labels on slightly oversize and trim for an exact fit after the glue dries.


If you prefer to size the labels before attaching, an inexpensive small “personal” paper cutter may make this easier and can usually be found in art/craft stores.


I hope this information helps. If you want to discuss this further, please PM me.


Fred Elsnau

7th Mar 2011 21:23 UTCJoachim Esche 🌟 Expert

Hi Eddy,


the Herma company produces labels 25,4x25,4 mm, 66 labels per sheet (A4 format), 25 sheets per packages, product no. 8831.

Ask Steffen Michalski, he sells them too.


Greetings

Joachim

7th Mar 2011 22:23 UTCVolker Betz 🌟 Expert

Hello Eddy,


I use Herma No. 4334 which are 25.5 x 16.9 mm, 112 on one DIN A4 sheet.


Regards


Volker

7th Mar 2011 22:43 UTCPascal Chollet Expert

In France we've got the product that fits right : Agipa 114088 ( http://www.rvh-services.com/PBSCProduct.asp?ItmID=3379992 )

24 x 24 mm - 40 labels per sheet


You might also see the mikon mineralienkontor site : they sell 24 x 24 mm labels too

https://www.mikon-online.com/shop/index.php/mikon_en/dosen-faltschachteln/etiketten.html


Pascal

8th Mar 2011 04:20 UTCStephan Segedy

Similar to Don's reply I am also using mailing address labels. While I did find Avery labels that were small enough, they were a bit less than the standard micromount box size, and using these would have cost me valuable label real estate. So I was led to try the address labels, which are easy to find and quite cost effective.


The freely available template for these is a Word document with a cell for each label. Using the "split cell" feature of Word one can split each cell into 3 parts, yielding a large grid of labels just right for micromounts. I leave the grid lines visible to use as a guideline when cutting the labels before peeling and applying. The only caveat is with this many labels per sheet, one has to print up the labels en masse. So I typically affix a temporary label to my mounts until I have enough of a backlog to warrant creating permanent labels.


As an added bonus the address labels are just right for labeling the flat cardboard boxes in which I store both mounts and thumbnails .


Best,


Stephan

8th Mar 2011 12:38 UTCEddy Vervloet Manager

Wow... perfect, guys.

Thanks all very much. I had never heard of Herma... or Agipa!

Will give our friend Steffen a call!


Stephan, that is exactly what kept me from cutting my own labels all the time... having to

wait till you can print a full page...

8th Mar 2011 22:06 UTCGary Moldovany

Hello all. I have been using Avery removable multi-use labels #5424 that I got from Staples. They are 22mm x 16mm. Maybe a little smaller than you were looking for? You can probably order them on line from the Staples.com website. Hope this helps. Gary

9th Mar 2011 08:31 UTCEddy Vervloet Manager

Hi Gary.

Thanks. Weird. On the european avery site I do not find those...

Will have a look at staples!

9th Mar 2011 08:33 UTCEddy Vervloet Manager

Nope. Nothing...

and staples only delivers in the US...

9th Mar 2011 14:35 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

Hi Eddy


If you are interested, I need some as well, I can buy a bunch and send you some...


Avery has 1/2" by 3/4", #5418 - that comes in sheets for the ink jet printer, or the aformentioned #5424, 5/8"x7/8", in smaller sheets that may not work in an inkjet printer


Jeff

9th Mar 2011 16:29 UTCMichael Hatskel

Avery removable labels tend to come off of the plastic micro boxes with time (in several years) if it's on the outside of the box.

Putting a clear scotch tape over it is not very aesthetic.

Do you guys have any other practical remedy for that other than gluing the label to the box?


Of course, if you put in inside the box, e.g. stick the label on the bottom or the side of the black-paper insert, it will be protected and does not require any protective coating.

13th Mar 2011 19:13 UTCEddy Vervloet Manager

Thanks for the offer, Jeff, but thanks.

Steffen contacted me and send some already :)

Thanks for your help all!

I never had problems with avery before, Michael. Or are what you call removable labels

different ones?

18th Mar 2011 01:38 UTCJoe Mulvey

I use Avery labels for my micromounts and paint the label with a drop of clear nail polish after application. I usually do large batches at one time. I think getting an assembly line of similar steps usually increases my handiwork.

Joe

20th Mar 2011 04:14 UTCVolker Zabo

Hi Guys,

I have set up a custom label page in Word.

It prints 70 labels on an A4 single label sheet which is then cut using a steel rule and scalpel.

I only ever enter the mineral details into an Access database ONCE and do everything from then on.

Attached is the PDF file that steps you through the process.

Once set up its easy.


Cheers from Australia...Volker

6th Jun 2011 20:14 UTCMiguel Angel Menegotto

Hey why not try the AMI software that brings the option to edit and print ID cards?

Greetings

Miguel

13th Oct 2011 18:50 UTCUtilisateur anonyme

When the microminéral is very tiny ,some of you ,put one "arrow" !


where can I found it


thank


jean pierreu

13th Oct 2011 19:10 UTCRick Dalrymple Expert

Eddy,


I use a label (not for micro-boxes) that is 27 x 27mm. If that will work for you let me know.

13th Oct 2011 19:37 UTCStephan Segedy

Hi Jean,


The micromounting club to which I belong (MMNE) recently purchased some of these in bulk for the membership and so I obtained a roll.

Prior to that I would cut them myself from colorful friction tape and a small pair of scissors (always an alternative in a pinch).


The "peel and stick" rolls of 1000 are made by a company called Shercon, and are used in industry to mark defects on circuit boards.

They may be obtained at http://www.all-spec.com/products/20Z-R.html (for red) 20Z-Y for yellow 20Z-G for green etc..


Good Luck,

Stephan

14th Oct 2011 02:22 UTCJoe Mulvey

I bought a roll of greenarrows at the MMNE meeting which is convenient because now I can mark multiple minerals with red or green arrows - whitmorite here, fairfieldite there...

14th Oct 2011 15:19 UTCUtilisateur anonyme

Thank for your answer (tu)


jp

21st Oct 2011 08:45 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Hi

You can get "arrows" from philatelic supply places.

Cheers

8th Nov 2011 19:09 UTCRoy Wood

I made a format of labels in Excel and can print them on Avery 8165 which is a 8 1/2 x 11 inch blank page. You can cut them our and peal the back and stick them on the box. I put mine on the side of the box but if you are putting them on the top or bottom you could make the labels a little larger than what I use. I usually print out on paper before putting the Avery in the printer just to correct for spacing and errors. With Excel you can adjust the size to any micromount box you are using. If interested I can send you a sample of the Excel label set up I use. This also works for labels in Perkey boxes.


Roy
 
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