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May 16, 2010 08:47AM
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{Ca2}{Al2Fe3+}[O|OH|SiO4|SiO7] Monoclinic

Epidote from the Knappenwand, Austria© Harjo

Epidote is a common mineral found in low to moderately regionally metamorphosed rocks. Epidote also occurs in contact metamorph limestone, especially near ore deposits. In granitic rocks Epidote is found in small fissures.
Until the advent of the discovery of the Knappenwand Epidote was not a popular collectors mineral.
When the first Knappenwand specimens saw the daylight the Strahlers didn't know what they found, only that the crystals were extremely beautiful. Some specimens were then handed over to a dealer who got them analysed. From then on the news travelled fast, spreading over Europe and soon arriving in the USA.
Most of the early specimens consequently landed in the USA where many still reside.
For a long time the Knappenwand remained the only locality delivering outstanding specimens.
The first locality since the Knappenwand that delivered very good specimens was Green monster Mountain in Alaska, followed by localities in Pakistan and Iran in recent years.
Outstanding specimens from either of the top localities command very high prices with the Knappenwand ranking first, for the amount of money needed to buy a really top class Knappenwand specimen one can also buy a house......or two..

Northern Territory, Harts Ranges (Hartz Ranges)

Epidote 3,8cm© Mark Rheinberger09
Epidote 3,2cm© Maggie Wilson

Info about specimens from the Harts Ranges.

Epidote 15cm x 15cm ©

Epidote 20mm ©

Epidote with Albite, 33mm x25mm©

Epidote, 55 mm x 45 mm x 15 mm©

Western Australia, Wyndham-East Kimberley Shire, Mitchell Plateau Deposit

Epidote with quartz, 60 mm x 50 mm x 40 mm©

Info about specimens from the Mitchell Plateau is needed. Only small amounts of the material has been coming out.

Salzburg, Hohe Tauern Mts, Krimmler Ache valley, Söllnkar

Epidote 2x2cm©
Epidote 4,3cm© www.mineralienkluft.at

Epidote 5,3cm© www.mineralienkluft.at
Epidote 4cm© www.mineralienkluft.at

Exposures of garnetitic rock and of epidote-amphibolites of the Knappenwandmulde series, disseminated by aplitic veins.

Hohe Tauern Mts, Obersulzbach valley, Seebach valley, Seebach lake, Seekar (Seebachkar)

Epidote FOV 0,6cm© 2001 D. Schläfli
Epidote 3,8cm© Rob Lavinsky

Mineralized clefts in amphibolites. Located northwest of the Seebach lake.

Salzburg, Hohe Tauern Mts, Untersulzbach valley, Knappenwand area, Knappenwand

Epidote 6cm© Harjo
Epidote 4cm© Harjo

Epidote scale 1 inch, rule 1cm©
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Epidote scale 1 inch, rule 1cm©
Epidote scale 1 inch, rule 1cm©

Epidote scale 1 inch, rule 1cm©
scale 1 inch, rule 1cm©

Epidote 6,5cm©
Epidote 9,2cm© www.mineralienkluft.at

Epidote 6cm© fabreminerals.com
Epidote 8cm© fabreminerals.com

Epidote FOV 0,6cm© Harjo
Epidote FOV 1,5cm© Harjo

Clefts in epidote-amphibolites of the so-called Knappenwandmulde series. The well known mineralization with outstanding epidote crystals is restricted to places where these clefts intersect with an aplite vein. The locality owes its discovery in 1865 to prospection works in search of copper ores, which occur at several places both at the Knappenwand and in its vicinity. Rarely, fine bornite crystals occur in association with epidote. The first Epidote crystals were discovered by the famous Strahler Alois Wurnitsch. The deposit was intermittently worked for epidote until 1956. Later, specimens were recovered during a scientific project guided by staff from the National History Museum of Vienna.
Presently (2007), the site is leased by the Zukunftkollegium Neukirchen and mined for specimens.
Epidote from the Knappenwand are generally regarded as the best Epidote specimens in the world. No other locality has produced that many outstanding specimens, outstanding in every aspect; clarity, morphology, lustre etc. Quality specimens from the Knappenwand command very high prices on the market and top class specimens are only affordable for the happy few, or the collectors that dare take an extra mortgage on their house......

Dashkesan, Daşkəsən (Daskasan; Dashkyasan) District, Dashkesan, Dashkesan (Dashkezan) Co-Fe deposit

Epidote, Quartz 6,3cm© fabreminerals.com
Epidote, Quartz 10cm© Vítězslav Snášel

Info about specimens from Dashkesan.

Walloon Brabant, Rebecq, Quenast, Porphyry quarries

Epidote 6cm© Harjo
Epidote 8cm© Harjo

Epidote 13,8cm© Paul De Bondt
Epidote 5cm© L.Bernard

Epidote, Calcite 20cm© Harjo
Epidote 30cm© Harjo

Epidote, Calcite 10cm© Harjo
Epidote 13cm© Michel Blondieau

Epidote FOV 0,8cm© Harjo
Epidote FOV 1cm© Harjo

The quarry of Quenast is one of several quarries (along with Lessines, Deux-Acren and Bierges) located in the zone with magmatic intrusions along the southern border of the Brabant massif (look for a detailed history of the quarries on the Quenast end Lessines locality pages).
Mineralised zones only occur at the contact zone with the adjoining Quartzite slate, an approximately 2 to 3 meters wide metamorphosed zone. Sporadically, about once every ten years according to the quarry geologist, larger cavities are encountered that can sometimes contain very nice Epidote crystals along with Quartz (crystals up to 50 cm have been found), Axinite, Apatite, Calcite, Orthoclase, Albite and other minerals.
The Epidote crystals are usually found on plates consisting of radiating sprays of crystals up to 5 cm long, although larger crystals have been found.
Given the sporadic nature of the encountered cavities and the fact that the management does not allow collecting in the quarry the specimens from Quenast are hard to come by on the market and top class specimens are extremely rare.

Southeast Region, Minas Gerais, Jequitinhonha valley, Capelinha, Fazenda Rubin Pimenta Mine

Epidote 11,2cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote 4cm© Rui Nunes 2007

Epidote 7,4cm© Dan & Diana Weinrich Minerals
Epidote 6,1cm© JSS

Information about specimens from Capelinha.

Smolyan Oblast, Rhodope Mts, Madan ore field, Krushev dol mine, Krushev dol deposit

Epidote, Quartz 10cm© www.SpiriferMinerals.com

Information about specimens from Krushev dol.

Guangdong Province, Shaoguan Prefecture

Epidote 8,8cm© Jiangbin
Epidote, Aragonite size?© Jiangbin

Info about specimens from Guangdong.

Giuzhou Province, Qianxi'nan Autonomous Prefecture, Anlong Co., Getang Au-Sb deposit

Epidote, Prehnite 5,4cm© MinFans.com
Epidote, Quartz, Prehnite 6cm© MinFans.com

Information about specimens from Getang.

Hebei Province, Handan Prefecture

Epidote 2,4cm© Jiangbin
Epidote 3,6cm© Jiangbin

Epidote 2,6cm© Sapphirious
Epidote 4,2cm© Jiangbin

Information about specimens from Hebei.

Sichuan Province, Leshan Prefecture, Ebian Co., Jinkouhe

Epidote 14,2cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote 6,4cm© Rob Lavinsky

Information about specimens from Jinkouhe.

Sichuan Province, Liangshan Autonomous Prefecture, Meigu Co., Hongquizhen quarry

Epidote, Quartz 17cm© rare-X.com
Epidote 13cm© Rob Lavinsky

A small quarry in a hillside, worked by local farmers.

Yunnan Province, Nujiang Autonomous Prefecture, Gaoligong Mts (Gaoligong Shan)

Epidote 3cm© rare-X.com
Epidote 3,6cm© rare-X.com

Highlands west of the Nu river (Nu Jiang) valley.
Located in northwestern Yunnan Province, close to the border to Myanmar (Burma).

Czech Republic
Moravia (Mähren, Maehren), Olomouc Region, Šumperk (Mährisch Schönberg), Sobotín (Zöptau; Zoeptau)

Epidote scale 1 inch, rule 1cm©
Epidote 4cm© Filip Kopecký

Information about specimens from Sobotin.

Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Hautes-Alpes, Saint-Véran

Epidote, Albite 7cm© J.Dehove
Epidote FOV 0,6cm© J.Dehove

Information about specimans from Saint-Veran.

Rhône-Alpes, Savoie, Maurienne valley, Glandon Pass

Epidote 3cm© Georges BRET
Epidote 12cm© G.BRET

The Glandon pass is located between Bourg d'Oisans and the Maurienne valley.

Thraki (Thrace; Thracia) Department, Xánthi Prefecture

Epidote 8cm© AL
Epidote 3,5cm© Ch. Spirom. & Greekrocks.com

Information about specimens from Xanthi.

Markazi Province, Tafresh city, Saveh town, Kuhandan village, Khowrin Mt (Khorram Mt), Epidote locality

Epidote 12,5cm© Vachik Hairapetian July 2013

Epidote 8cm© Vachik Hairapetian Dec. 2006
Epidote 16cm© Vachik Hairapetian Dec 2006

Epidote 19,5cm© Vachik Hairapetian May 2006
Epidote 15cm© Vachik Hairapetian May 2006

Epidote 20,2cm© Vachik Hairapetian Sep 2010
Epidote 5cm© Vachik Hairapetian June 2007

Epidote 8cm© 2002 John H. Betts
Epidote 3,5cm© 2002 John H. Betts

A locality on Khowrin Mt (Kuh-e Khowrin; Kuh-e Khorram) near Kuhandan village, famous for gemmy epidote crystals. Now quite exhausted (Vachik Hairapetian, pers. comm., 2006). Located SE of Tafresh area, near Saveh town.
NOTE: Specimens from this locality were also erroneously/insufficiently labeled as coming from "Zagros Mts (Kuhha-ye Zagros)".

It is still a matter of debate when and who first found these epidotes. Considering the first miniature sized piece in my (Vachik Hairapetian) collection, purchased from a souvenir shop at Esfahan, autumn 1994, a few earliest specimens must have been found earlier, probably by locals. Since then a few specimens were shown in the Munich mineral show (2001) by German dealers. However, all these were erroneously labelled as coming from Afghanistan, and later Kuhaye Zagros (Zagros Mountains, SW Iran) but the precise locality information was unknown to the collectors for years. In 2006 it was finally revealed that the Khowrin Mount, close to Kohandan village (15 km east of Tafresh town) is the true locality. There was a hardly accessible, rather small pocket, 50 m below the summit (3300 m height), from which most specimens of epidote crystals were collected. The pocket was reported to be almost exhausted by 2006. [Vachik Hairapetian]

Aosta valley, Châtillon, Bellecombe

Epidote 2,5cm© Rob Lavinsky

Epidote 0,4cm© Chinellato Matteo
Epidote 0,6cm© Chinellato Matteo

Information about specimens from Bellecombe.

Liguria, Genova Province, Ne, Graveglia Valley, Nascio

Epidote 6,5cm© Simone Citon
Epidote 3,7cm© Rob Lavinsky

Basalt outcroppings near the village of Nascio.

Piedmont, Cuneo Province, Varaita Valley

Epidote, Albite 4,7cm© fabreminerals.com
Epidote 4,7cm© Rob Lavinsky

Information about specimens from Varaita.

Piedmont, Torino Province, Canavese District, Chiusella Valley, Traversella

Epidote scale 1 inch rule 1cm©

Information about specimens from Traversella.

Piedmont, Torino Province, Sesia-Lanzo zone, Lanzo Valley, Viù Valley

Epidote 0,5cm© Chinellato Matteo
Epidote 0,3cm© Chinellato Matteo

Epidote 3,3cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote 3,4cm© Rob Lavinsky

Rodingite dykes in serpentinite.
Known for excellent epidote crystals.

Piedmont, Verbano-Cusio-Ossola Province, Ossola Valley

Epidote 2,2cm© Chinellato Matteo
Epidote 3cm© Chinellato Matteo

Epidote 0,4cm© D. Preite

Several good localities for Epidote in Ossola Valley, among others: Rivasco quarry in Antigorio valley, Antrona valley and Mount Cervandone.

Trentino-Alto Adige, Trento Province, Fiemme Valley, Costa di Viezzena (Porta di Viezzena)

Epidote 19cm© Manuele Moro
Epidote 6cm© Manuele Moro

Information about specimens from Costa di Viezzena.

North Eastern Province

Epidote 7,2cm© Dan & Diana Weinrich Minerals
Epidote scale 1 inch rule 1cm©

Information about specimens from Kenya.

Kayes Region

Epidote, Prehnite 7cm© Tony Peterson
Epidote, Prehnite 12,5cm© Rob Lavinsky

Epidote, Prehnite 4,8cm©
Epidote, Prehnite 3,7cm© Rob Lavinsky

Several good localities (Djouga, Diakon, Sandaré, Sadiola Hill) for Epidote and Prehnite combination specimens.

Baja California Norte

Epidote 8cm© 2002 John H. Betts
Epidote 3cm© 2001 John H. Betts

scale 1 inch rule 1cm©
Epidote 5cm© Rob Lavinsky

Several good localities (Isla Guadalupe, Pino Solo, San Quintin) for excellent Epidote specimens.

Meknès-Tafilalet Region, Er Rachidia Province, High Atlas Mts, Imilchil

Epidote 2cm©
Epidote 6,7cm© fabreminerals.com

Location for nice typical bow-tie fans of Epidote crystals.

Østfold, Halden, Berg, Svingen quarry

Epidote, Quartz 11cm© A. Michalsen
Epidote 12,5cm© A. Michalsen

Information about specimens from Svingen.

Balochistan (Baluchistan)

Epidote, Quartz 9,8cm© H. Obodda
Epidote 6,6cm© Steve Hardinger

Several localities (Zard Mts, Wadh, Kharan) for excellent Epidote specimens.

Balochistan (Baluchistan), Kharan, Raskoh Mts.

Epidote 6.9cm wide© Christian Bracke
Epidote 7.7cm wide© Christian Bracke

Epidote 7.2cm wide© Christian Bracke
Epidote 7.2cm wide© fabreminerals.com

These showed up in 2011 and there appear to be quite a few of them. They seem to come in two strange crystal forms. One is rather flat tables that appear to be almost hexagonal and the other almost octahedral. Sometimes both habits occur on the same specimen. Some of them are magnetic, probably from tiny included magnetite crystals, and some appear to be slightly yellow which appears to be due to a dusting of micro Titanite crystals. Most of the specimens are not very shiny and perhaps the largest crystals are less than 10 cm across.

Northern Areas, Baltistan, Skardu District

Epidote 2,5cm©

Epidote 5,3cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote 7cm© 2001 John H. Betts

Epidote 8,2cm© Christian Bracke
Epidote 5,5cm© Rob Lavinsky

Epidote 5,2cm© Carles Millan
Epidote 7,5cm© Dan & Diana Weinrich Minerals

Epidote 3,7cm© Daniel Svensson
Epidote 4cm© Michael Shaw

A wealth of very good localities (Skardu Road, Hurchas, Hachupa, Dassu, Alchuri, Shigar valley, Tormiq valley) for outstanding Epidote crystals. When these specimens entered the market it was the first time that Epidote was seen that came near the quality of the Knappenwand specimens, especially the typical "faden" groups.

Ancash Department, Bolognesi Province, Huallanca, Chiurucu (Chiuruco), La Gringa Mine

Epidote, Calcite 3,9cm© fabreminerals.com
Epidote, Calcite 5,4cm© fabreminerals.com

Information about specimens from La Gringa.

Huancavelica Department, Castrovirreyna Province, Castrovirreyna District

Epidote 6,9cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote, Calcite 5cm© Rob Lavinsky

Epidote 5,1cm© Dan & Diana Weinrich Minerals
Epidote 5,3cm© Rob Lavinsky

Very good localities for Epidote including: San Genaro mine (most famous one for Ag sulfosalts), Caudalosa mine, Rapida mine, La Griega mine, Madona mine, Bonanza mine, Seguridad mine, Lira mine, Carmen mine.

Ica Department, Pampa Blanca

Epidote, Quartz 6,8cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote 6,5cm© Rob Lavinsky

Epidote, Quartz 7,3cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote 8cm© Tony Peterson

Information about specimens from Pampa Blanca.

Lower Silesia (Dolnośląskie), Strzegom-Sobótka Massif, Świdnica District,Strzegom (Striegau)

Epidote, Chabazite 5cm© Tony Peterson
Epidote 4,5cm© Volker Betz

Miarolitic pegmatites in the Strzegom-Sobótka massif.

Leiria District, Óbidos, Senhora da Luz

Epidote 5,5cm© Rui Nunes 2008
Epidote 4cm© Martins da Pedra

Gypsum quarry.

Urals Region, Middle Urals, Ekaterinburgskaya (Sverdlovskaya) Oblast'

Epidote scale 1 inch rule 1cm©
Epidote 7,5cm© Joseph A. Freilich

Good localities for Epidote including Katsna Yama and Mor's Pit.

Extremadura, Monesterio, Aguablanca Mine (Agua Blanca Mine)

Epidote Quartz Andradite 10cm© fabreminerals.com
Epidote Quartz Andradite 12,5cm© fabreminerals.com

The Aguablanca nickel mine is Rio Narcea's first nickel sulphide mine in Western Europe, producing nickel-copper-PGM concentrate.
The deposit is hosted by a subvertical magmatic breccia.
Excellent combination specimens of Epidote with Quartz and Andradite have been found in the mine.

Valencian Community, Alicante, Albatera, Hondón de los Frailes, Los Serranos Quarry

Epidote, Quartz 4,1cm© Steve Hardinger
Epidote, Quartz 4cm© Martins da Pedra

The Serranos quarry is at the moment (2006) in activity. In this quarry a dolerite (alkaline subvolcanic rock) outcrop is exploited, which is used for highways. The dolerite forms sills in Triassic rocks (Keuper facies): marls, gypsum and carbonated rocks.
The quarry is in the township of Albatera, but can by accessed only from Hondón de Los Frailes country. For this reason, the locality name includes Hondón.
Very nice and sometimes large plates covered with Epidote and clear Quartz crystals have abundantly been found in the quarry.

Lappland, Kiruna district, Svappavaara, Leveäniemi Mine

Epidote 5,5cm© Jorge M. Alves
Epidote 4cm© Martins da Pedra

An iron open-pit mine active 1964-83.

Grischun (Grisons, Graubünden), Misox (Mesolcina Valley), Calanca Valley, Arvigo, Gneiss quarries

Epidote FOV 0,5cm© 2007 D. Schläfli
Epidote FOV 0,6cm© Stephan Wolfsried

Quarries in biotite gneisses.
Access and collecting is strictly forbidden since 2007 following a massive landslide.

Ticino (Tessin), Maggia Valley, Riveo, Gneiss quarries

Epidote, Albite 5cm© Harjo
Epidote Albite Apatite 4cm© Harjo

Epidote FOV 0,8cm© Harjo
Epidote FOV 0,8cm© Harjo

Quarries in biotite-plagioclase gneiss along the road from Riveo to Cevio.
Minerals (Epidote, Apatite, Apophylite, Albite, Quartz, Titanite and others) can be found in the scarce (usually) funnel shaped Alpine type clefts containing an Albite/Epidote breccia.

Wallis (Valais), Zermatt-Saas Fee area, Matt Valley, Zermatt

Epidote Diopside 5cm© fabreminerals.com
Epidote 5,9cm© Rob Lavinsky

Good localities, especially the Gorner glacier area, for Epidote, sometimes in nice combination specimens with Diopside.

Alaska, Price of Wales-Outer Ketchikan Borough, Prince of Wales Island

Epidote Quartz 9cm© Dan & Diana Weinrich Minerals
Epidote 6,5cm© Dan Weinrich

Epidote Quartz 5cm© 2003 John H. Betts
Epidote Quartz 5cm© 2001 John H. Betts

Epidote Quartz 9cm© Chris Tucker
Epidote 4cm© 2001 John H. Betts

Copper Mountain and Green Monster Mountain rank amongst the top Epidote localities in the world. The best specimens can compete with specimens from Pakistan and Iran, some even come close to Knappenwand specimens. Especially attractive are combination specimens with lustrous Epidote and Quartz as well as single large blocky crystals.

California, Inyo Co., Death Valley National Park, Nelson Range, Bird Springs Garnet claim (Nelson Range deposit)

Epidote Quartz Grossular 6cm© WWB
Epidote Quartz Grossular 10cm© WWB

All the Epidotes labeled "California, Inyo Co., Death Valley National park, Saline Valley" should be relabelled to "Bird Springs Garnet claim (Nelson Range deposit), Nelson Range, Death Valley National Park, Inyo Co., California, USA".
Early on "Saline Valley" was all that the field collectors would give out and in a way it is correct as it is in the Saline Valley drainage, but no where near as accurate. [Bill Besse]

California, Calaveras Co.

Epidote 10cm and 5cm© www.minresco.com

Epidote scale 1 inch rule 1cm©
Epidote 6cm© WWB

Epidote 3,5cm© 2005 Jake Harper
Epidote 4,6cm© 2008 Steve Hardinger

The Sierran bedrock complex in Calaveras county consists of a series of northwest trending beds of metamorphic rocks that have been intensely folded and faulted and intruded by a series of intrusive igneous rocks, chiefly Granitic. Interpretation of the geologic structure in the metamorphic rocks can be extremely difficult due to its complexity, the destruction of bedding by shearing and the absence of key horizons. These metamorphic rocks are characterized by beds and foliation that strike northwest, parallel to the trend of the Sierra Nevada; vertical or steep easterly and northeasterly dips; and overturned, nearly isoclinal folds. The repetition of beds, particularly those of the Mariposa Slate and Greenstone west of the Mother Lode, results from this folding.

The Mother Lode vein system extends across Calaveras county in a northwest direction. It is a major fault zone in which there has been reverse movement, but the amount of displacement is largely unknown. Gold bearing Quartz veins have been deposited within the resulting fissures. Ultrabasic intrusions west of the Mother Lode are largely serpentinized and trend northwest as well, thus reflecting the major structural trend of the region.

Nice Epidote specimens have been found on Garnet Hill and in the Miracle Mountaine Mine.

Colorado, Chaffee Co., Turret District, Calumet Mine

Epidote 8cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote Quartz 10cm© 2001 John H. Betts

Epidote 7cm© 2001 John H. Betts
Epidote 8,4cm© Rob Lavinsky

Information about specimens from Calumet Mine.

Nevada, Mineral Co.

Epidote 6,3cm© Wm. C. van Laer
Epidote 4,7cm© Eric Graff

Information about specimens from Mineral Co.

Vermont, Orleans & Lamoille Cos., Lowell & Eden, Belvidere Mountain Quarries

Epidote 6,2cm© Rob Lavinsky
Epidote 0,5cm© 2005 Peter Cristofono

Asbestos was first discovered on Belvidere Mountain before 1823 (in Lowell, formerly Kellyvale). In 1899, a prospect was developed at the east base of the mountain which was later mined by the Lowell Lumber & Asbestos Company. Another company, New England Asbestos Mining and Milling, began mining the southwest side in 1902.

The excavations for this asbestos deposit are virtually continuous and overlapping. Many collectors maintain a distinction without a difference as to the names of particular pits. Although there are historical references to particular sub-locations such as the C-area, etc., specimens from these locations have been distributed without specific labels to identify which pit or exact spot they have come from. The largest two levels are at the north end of the excavations the Lowell quarry and, consequently, which have produced most of the specimens, and are largely in Lowell, but exceptional specimens have also been found in Eden on the southern end of the quarry area (T-area). (Have fun figuring out how to label specimens from this area!)

A lot of information is still needed for individual localities. Any help in providing this information will be greatly appreciated winking smiley

[Harjo Neutkens 2010]

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Edited 172 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2014 09:45AM by Ralph Bottrill.
avatar Re: Epidote
May 16, 2010 08:51PM
Hello Vik,
Pistacite is not recommended to be used as a name but rather as a way of expressing the Fe3+ content in the epidote. Your sample looks like a dead on for epidote (pistachio green), the pistacite content would need to be determined with microprobe or something comparable.

Epidote group minerals are great at incorporating impurities as substitutions for Fe3+ and Ca2+ and can be fascinating petrologically because of this.

Ian Merkel

There are two lattice sites where Fe can go, but only one of them makes epidote out of clinozoisite. If there is less than 5% Fe by wt then there is not enough Fe to make epidote and so it must be Clinozoisite. I don't know if the Fe preferentially occupies one or the other of its possible lattice postions, but there will be a wt % of Fe that allows for filling the irrelvant postion completely and just more than half the species determining site. Any iron content above that % will definately be epidote. Anything in between must be determined by single xl x-ray work to find the species. However this range can be narrowed somewhat as Cinozoisite is optically positive and Epidote is optically negative, but that may not be the case close to the midpoint between the species and there single xl work really is necesary. I think this is a silly use of the "dominant lattice site" rule and there should only be one species and two colour varieties.

Rob Woodside

Yes, clinozoisite is a member of the epidote group - essentially epidote with very little Fe. A lot of mineralogists would consider that epidote should be called ferroan clinozoisite but its been around a long time. So the difference, whether by Fe content or optics or colour is quite arbitrary really, and the names are almost interchangable to many mineralogists and collectors. I don't think that pistacite (i.e. an epidote with Fe>Al) has yet been found in nature, even synthetically (but someone may correct me?) it only exists as a hypothetical endmember. I dont think there is any significant difference in Fe/Al partitioning between the sites else someone would have tried to define an ordered epidote as a new mineral.
"optically positive/negative" refers to optical effects under polarised light microscopy, not very useful info unless you have a petrological microscope, and not used so much these days with microprobes etc so accessible.

Ralph Bottrill

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5.5x4x3.5 cm terminated crystal of Epidote from famous skarn deposit of Southern Ural. Crystaline forms m {110}, n {111} and o {011} are well developed on its "termination" (which in reality is prismatic belt of the crystal in standart orientation). Usually epidote crystals in this mine are much more larger (up to 1 m long and more) and it was difficult for me to obtain such small and perfectly terminated specimen.

Pavel Kartashov
avatar Re: Epidote
May 17, 2010 09:35AM
You might also want to include the Bessemer Ridge. Washington locality for epidotes that are no more (pseudomorphs)
avatar Re: Epidote
May 17, 2010 09:49AM
Thanks David, yes, I'm going to add them right a way, very nice pseudos!
avatar Re: Epidote
September 15, 2010 06:33PM
Here is a possible contribution to this article. [www.mindat.org]
The crystals were self collected around 1966. The largest is 10cm in length and is excellent in morphology, showing striations and very dark green color. Minor quartz crystals are associated. The most interesting aspect is that these are only the terminations of what were up to 2', or longer, crystals.

Gene Cisneros
avatar Re: Epidote
September 15, 2010 08:10PM
There is some controversy as to whether the pseudos from Bessemer Ridge are actually after Epidote. Some recently collected specimens display fairly sharp terminal faces which do not seem consistent with Epidote.

avatar Re: Epidote
September 15, 2010 09:34PM

The Epidotes labeled "California, Inyo Co., Death Valley National park, Saline Valley" [www.mindat.org] should be relabeled (matter of fact all Epidotes accredited to that locality) to "Bird Springs Garnet claim (Nelson Range deposit), Nelson Range, Death Valley National Park, Inyo Co., California, USA" [www.mindat.org].

Early on Saline Valley is all the field collectors would give out and in a way it is correct as it is in the Saline Valley drainage, but no where near as accurate. I have collected here many times.

avatar Re: Epidote
April 21, 2013 05:19PM
Re: Epidote
July 08, 2013 09:52AM
Dear Rock, Dear Harjo,
As you both know, the epidote locality of Iran already considered indeed one of top best localities in the article, but there are better photographs of very much higher quality specimens that can be replaced/added. Here I provided some selections of different varieties. Hope you can consider these.


I want to share the following information on the history of collecting and mineralogy of the locale that may use to complete parts of "locality note".
It is still a matter of debate when and who first found these epidotes. Considering the first miniature sized piece in my collection, purchased from a souvenir shop at Esfahan, autumn 1994, a few earliest specimens must be found earlier probably by locals. Since then a few specimens were fashioned in the Munich mineral show (2001) by German dealers. However, all these were erroneously labeled as from Afghanistan, and then Kuhaye Zagros (Zagros Mountains, SW Iran) and precise locality information was unknown to the collectors for years. However in 2006, it was finally revealed that the Khowrin Mount, close to Kohandan village, 15 km east of Tafresh town is the source locale. There was a hardly accessible, rather small pocket, in 50 m below the summit (3300 m height) from which most specimens of epidote crystals had been collected. The pocket was reported to be almost exhausted by in 2006.

Best regards,
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July 08, 2013 04:10PM

Wow! Amazing epidotes!

Here is one of mine - Epidote on Dolomite, any idea of locality? Italy?

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July 08, 2013 07:12PM
Sorry Amanda,
I have not a clue, but perhaps someone who know more than I do will be able to place it.

Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.
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July 08, 2013 07:19PM
Thanks for bringing these to our attention. Harjo has already added some of them to the article.

Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.
Re: Epidote
July 08, 2013 07:36PM
I've long suspected that the Bessemer Ridge pseudos were actually after hedenbergite rather than epidote, but I have no proof. Nevertheless it might be better not to include them in an epidote article until the matter is cleared up.
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July 08, 2013 08:31PM
Vachik, thanks for the great photos of top quality specimens. I've added them all to the article and I also included your information about the locality.

Bill, I changed the locality to Bird Springs garnet claim.

Alfredo, I removed the Bessemer range pseudos for the time being.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2013 09:28PM by Harjo Neutkens.
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July 09, 2013 12:11AM
I have re-photographed my Epidotes from California and they look much better than the ones they replace. Perhaps they are of sufficient interest for the locality.


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July 09, 2013 01:46AM
Thanks Harjo and Rock for updating Iran part.
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July 09, 2013 09:43AM
Thanks, Gene! I've given your photo a prominent place in the Calaveras section.
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July 09, 2013 03:57PM
Thanks Harjo, I appreciate it. BTW, congratulations to all who have donated their time and effort to make this great presentation.

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July 09, 2013 07:20PM
I am here to contribute by sending pictures to new find epidotes from my region.

Thank You
Nauroz Nausherwani

Dear Nauroz,
I have edited your text a bit as it was too much of a sales ad. Please post photos and locality on this message board as the other contributors have done. Hope you don't mind.

Best regards
Olav Revheim

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2013 07:46PM by Olav Revheim.
Re: Epidote
November 06, 2014 01:22PM

It appears that the "epidote" from Krushev dol deposit, Bulgaria might be clinozoisite. Similar specimens from this mine have been tested in Earth and Man National Museum in Sofia, although I do not know by which method.


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