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Baryte, Germany

Posted by Rock Currier  
avatar Baryte, Germany
May 08, 2009 01:11PM
See Bill Dameron's article which is under construction below.

Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2010 08:35AM by Rock Currier.
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
March 29, 2010 11:04PM
    
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Can you help make this a better article? What good localities have we missed? Can you supply pictures of better specimens than those we show here? Can you give us more and better information about the specimens from these localities? Can you supply better geological or historical information on these localities?

Baryte, GermanyBaSO4 Orthorhombic
Here will go a good picture of a Baryte from Germany and general remarks about the Baryte from this country. Here are some url's to some of the better German Baryte specimens here on Mindat that can be considered for inclusion in the article. These, in most cases are just for temporary use until we can get images of the much better specimens that are almost certainly out there. We should also consider that there are probably localities out there with fine specimens that are not even mentioned on Mindat. Also in some instances there are sometimes pictures on Mindat, of specimens from a locality, but they were so ratty that I did not include them here, but there may also be really good specimens from there that we should talk about in this article.


BariteGermany
Silbereckle Mine, Reichenbach, Lahr, Black Forest, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-135518.html


BariteGermany
Schmiedestollen dump, Wittichen, Schenkenzell, Black Forest, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-148186.html


BariteGermany
Wieden, Black Forest, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-30742.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-30743.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-30744.html


BariteGermany
Germany, Baden-Württemberg, Black Forest, Wolfach, Oberwolfach, Rankach valley, Clara Mine


http://www.mindat.org/photo-62903.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-148226.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-109143.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-138505.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-82604.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-148243.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-95275.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-66768.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-12607.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-136387.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-12616.html


BariteGermany
Segen Gottes Mine, Wiesloch, Heidelberg, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-86889.html


BariteGermany
Elisabeth Mine, Hain im Spessart, Laufach, Hösbach, Spessart Mts, Franconia, Bavaria, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-133244.html


BariteGermany
Korbach, North Hesse, Hesse, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-8869.html


BariteGermany
Christiane Mine, Adorf, Korbach, North Hesse, Hesse, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-11769.html


BariteGermany
Rockenberg, Wetterau, Hesse, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-227985.html


BariteGermany
Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Harz Mts, Lower Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-228167.html


BariteGermany
Hilfe Gottes Mine, Wiemannsbucht, Bad Grund, Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Harz Mts, Lower Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-150011.html


BariteGermany
Wildemann, Bad Grund, Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Harz Mts, Lower Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-54284.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-73907.html


BariteGermany
St Andreasberg District, Harz Mts, Lower Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-156153.html


BariteGermany
Berzelius Mine, Herkenrath, Bensberg, Overath, Bergisches Land, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-98020.html


BariteGermany
Calcite quarry, Holzen, Arnsberg, Sauerland, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-120350.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-152251.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-150239.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-163386.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-225583.html


BariteGermany
Donnerkuhle Quarry, Hagen, Sauerland, North

Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-120773.html

Dreislar Mine, Dreislar, Winterberg, Sauerland, North

Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-115904.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-145450.html
Dreislar Mine, Dreislar, Winterberg, Sauerland, North

Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-115903.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-117669.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-163978.html

Frohnau, Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirge, Saxony,

Germany

Sauberg Mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony,

Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-14145.html

Schlema, Schlema-Hartenstein District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-39152.html


BariteGermany
Schneeberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-49062.html


BariteGermany
Pöhla, Schwarzenberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-41389.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-36841.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-130645.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-179641.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-160702.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-219270.html


BariteGermany
Luchsbach valley, Pöhla, Schwarzenberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-81565.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-56621.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-9388.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-55959.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-177725.html


BariteGermany
Heilige Dreifaltigkeit Mine, Zschopau, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16576.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16578.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16579.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16577.html


BariteGermany
Baryte mine, Brunndöbra, Klingenthal, Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-78134.html


BariteGermany
Ludwig-Vereinigt-Feld Mine, Schönbrunn, Oelsnitz, Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-48192.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-210472.html


Here are some notes about German Baryte that whoever end up writing this article may find handy.

Germany
Harz Mountains, Clausthal. These bladed barite crystals are coated with goethite? are not much to look at but they are from a famous old locality.

Baden-Württemberg, Black Forest, Rankachtal, Oberwolfach, Grube Clara. This mine has produced pointed barite specimens for over a 100 years. Locally, barite is called meisselspat (chisel spar). These specimens are confined mostly to Germany because of the local interest. In this regard they are like the barite specimens from Palos Verde, near Los Angeles, California that are mostly of interest to local collectors. In the Mineral business you can indeed make money by taking coal to Newcastel, especially after Newcastle stopped producing coal. Grube Clara is the last mining operating in an old mining district. The earliest mining documents date from 1652. Since 1850 the mine has produced barite and even recently fine specimens have been found. The mine is also known for water clear fluorite crystals and fine but small secondary minerals (this means micromounts). …collectors are admitted to the dumps at the barite mill near Wolfach for a fee of about $1.1
1 Mineralogical Record, Vol. 8, 1977, p 306.

Sauerland, Dreislar. “Wright’s Rock Shop has acquired a new lot of very impressive, large (25-30 cm) groups of thick, pink and white, bladed barite crystals from Dreislar, Most are sprinkled with lustrous chalcopyrite disphenoids, and are exceptionally good for the locality.”1
1. Mineralogical Record, Vol. 20, 1989. P. 398.
Ask Helmut Bruckner how much of this material there was and the nature of the crystals and a better locality.

Saxony, Erzgebirge, Obersachsen, Crottendorf, Pöhla Uranium Mine. “At the same dealer’s stand (Ben de Wit) were some large, spectacular groups of the new golden barite from the Pöhla uranium mine…The resemblance this time is to the well-known golden barites from the Eagle mine, Colorado. The crystals are bright, gemmy, deep orange tablets to 4 co on an edge in groups to 12 cm ($650), and also one 25 x 30-cm group ($1500).”1 “Only about 200 decent specimens have been found. …collected over the last 4 to 5 years. …Transparent yellow-brown crystals up to 12 cm were found initially, but more recent crystals are generally a lighter yellow dolor and smaller in size (up to 5 cm). Specimens range from miniature size to large cabinet size.”2 This last bit was apparently reported by Ben De Wit to Wendell Wilson at the Denver show in 1986. Many more specimens made their appearance at the Munich and Ste.-Marie-aux-Mines shows(Sotheby's 2001 auction of the Joseph Freilich collection)(Sotheby's 2001 auction of the Joseph Freilich collection) in 1988.
1. Mineralogical Record, Notes from Germany, Thomas Moore, Munich show 1986, Vol. 18, 1987, p.161. 1. Mineralogical Record, Vol. 18, 1987, p.147.

Rheinland-Pfalz, Baumholder, Ruschberg, Clarashall Mine. “Clear parallel xls to 1.5 cm w / red tips and scattered tiny cinnabar xls. 4x5 cm. Rare.”1
1 Bill Dameron, personal communication, 2003, description of a specimen in his collection.
Find out more about this locality.

BariteGermanyBaden-Württemberg, Black Forest, Rankachtal, Oberwolfach, Clara Mine

The MinDat page on this locality (click above), one of the best known in Germany, provides an excellent overview of a mine approaching its 300th birthday. Its wealth of species now number about 350, and there is a website where the species discovered are listed and kept current at Clara Mine Species. Dump collecting has been allowed and popular for many years, contributing to the mine's popularity, and as of 2009 was still permitted. An excellent webpage on the Clara mine at Clara Mine Webpage has pictures of the mine and the general locality and provides details about dump collecting. There are many books and articles for further reference, listed on the MinDate page and the strahler website noted above.

In addition to its wide variety of species (almost all of which occur as micromounts), the Clara mine is best know for barite, with occasional hand sized fluorite specimens. The chisel shaped barites locally are called meisselspat (chisel spar). As Rock Currier says, in this regard they are "like the barite specimens from Palos Verde, near Los Angeles, California that are mostly of interest to local collectors. In the mineral business you could indeed make money by taking coal to Newcastle, especially after Newcastle stopped producing coal."
The same chisel shape is found in barites from other localities (some recent Chinese barites especially), but in general the habit and color of the ones from Clara are distinctive. This picture is of an outstanding example of the classic chisel habit because of its clarity, luster, nice phantoms and good condition.

Barite, Clara Mine 7x5.5 cm



While larger crystals do occur, more commonly they are smaller if in good condition, but often very sharp. At the micro level there is a wide variety of habits, sometimes with water clear crystals.

Barite, Clara Mine, 9x8 cm
Barite, Clara Mine, 10.1 cm
Barite, Clara Mine, 4 mm
Barite, Clara Mine, FOV 2.3 mm
Barite, Clara Mine, FOV 8 mm
Barite, Clara Mine, FOV 2.5 mm
Barite, Clara Mine, FOV 7 mm



These clear crystals are less common in hand specimens, but they do exist. One also frequently sees the more common barite habit in a nice yellow-gold color with crystals to 2+ cm in large plates.

Barite, Clara Mine, 9x6.5 cm
Barite, Clara mine, 10x8 cm


1 Mineralogical Record, Vol. 8, 1977, p 306.
2 Rocks & Minerals, Vol. 65, 1990, p.448-454
3 MinDat Clara Mine Page
4 Clara Mine Webpage
5 Clara Mine Species


BaryteGermanySaxony, Erzgebirge, Schwarzenberg District, Pöhla, Pöhla-Tellerhäuser Mine

Pöhla-Tellerhäuser Mine, more commonly referred to as Pöhla, is in a classic mining and mineral specimen area: the Erzgebirge (Ore) Mountains, mined since at least 1168, primarily for tin, silver and iron. These mines straddle the current border between Germany and the Czech Republic. Crottendorf is the town often cited on labels as nearest the Pöhla-Tellerhäuser Mine, but Pöhla itself is (was) a tiny village now formally incorporated into Schwarzenberg. In addition to a number of publications in German (note: contributions welcomed here, bitte), MR Vol. 21, 1990, p.565 has a short article on the region. MinDat's locality site gallery at Pöhla-Tellerhäuser Mine Pictures is worth a look.
The Pöhla-Tellerhäuser uranium mine, which closed in 1991, is the source of the barite crystals, and is also remowned known for its bismuth and native silver on arsenic specimens.
The barites sometimes occur with small clear fluorite crystals, on a drusy quartz matrix. Often that matrix is clearly quartz casts after cubic fluorite. The coffin-shaped crystals occur in closely packed groups, can be very clear and gemmy, and are a light honey color to dark amber. Crystals to around 9 cm are not unusual, although usually less gemmy than the smaller ones.

Barite, 9x8.6 cm
Barite on quartz 6x5 cm
Barite 9x5 cm
Barite 7.1x7.1 cm




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Edited 22 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2012 08:38PM by Rock Currier.
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
April 04, 2010 10:37PM
German barites will be a lot of work but don't feel that you need to do the whole article at one sitting. I am glad to see you are learning hot to add multiple images for a locality and are learning hot to format and size them to make them look nice.

Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
April 05, 2010 06:05PM
    
Sebastian or others very familiar with Black Forest Barytes -
I obtained this specimen of barite and fluorite labeled Teufelsgrund, St. Blasien, Sammlung Coll. H. Deisinger. 6 cm, it is a nice piece I would like to use on Best of Species. There is a photo attached, and here is the link to the image as it appears on my barite reference website.
http://www.baritespecimenlocalities.org/Assets/WebPhotos/WebPicsEUR/BariteDEUTeufelsgrundSaxonyBallsFluoriteWeb.jpg
As noted on my website, there are "similar specimens from Gottesehre mine NE of Munstertal, near St. Blasien. See above and http://www.mineralienatlas.de/lexikon/index.php/Mineralienportrait/Baryt" where there is (or was) a specimen just like it labeled Gottesehre.

Can someone help me confirm that this is a Teufelsgrund specimen? Or Gottesehre?
Thanks very much!

Bill Dameron
Attachments:
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avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
April 05, 2010 07:11PM
    
Bill,
i do not doubt at first sight the attribution to Münstertal (or the nearby Wieden area) as the label states but it is a bit strange that St. Blasien is mentioned... St. Blasien is quite some km away and the Gottesehre mine near Urberg and also near to St. Blasien yielded as far as i remember similar barytes. I will check my literature (and of course i hope some Black Forest specialists will check in) - there is a special issue about the Gottesehre Mine in the Emser Hefte. And i should point out that i am not an expert on Black Forest Barytes. Just checked your site (i visited it several times before in the past and found it very useful, keep up the good work!) .. on first sight found some typos in the european section: It is not Schwarzenwald but Schwarzwald (which means Black Forest). BTW if you may find some of my baryte pictures here at mindat useful please feel free to use them! I may send you some additional infos on german localities if i find the time during the next weeks ... occurrences that should be mentioned are Holzen (http://www.mindat.org/gallery.php?loc=65578) - you have listed it above but not on your site - and Ramsbeck (both Northrhine-Westphalia). There are certainly some more but these are IMHO important. Will check back ASAP

cheers
Roger
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
April 05, 2010 11:08PM
    
Roger - Thanks much. I had originally doubted the label exactly because it said St. Blasien and my maps and references showed that to not near Teufelsgrund. I have found some old scribbled notes which I am pretty sure say that a year ago Sebastian already tole me it was Teufelsgrund and I will can now put it on MinDat as such.
Will defintely be using lots of other people's photos when I get around to addressing this again, locality by locality, and apologies for the spelling mistake. Just a sloppy typo.
Bill

Bill Dameron
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
May 15, 2010 06:18PM
    
Hi Bill,

Great work on the Barytes!! Thanks!
I got in and edited the captions for the localities, I hope you don't mind.
The only thing I changed is that I put the linked locality name in bold letters and without any spacing between the country name.
Keep up the good work!

Cheers

Harjo
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
May 15, 2010 09:33PM
    
Harjo -- thanks. The stuff you fixed was before I knew how to do it all correctly. I'll rewrite the entire section as a replacement for Rock's placeholder when I get back from Spain now that I'm know how to do it. It will take a long time to do all of Germany. Take a look at UK and you will see what I have done there.
Bill

Bill Dameron
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
May 18, 2010 08:02PM
    
Hi Bill,

Baryte England is fantastic, excellent piece of work!!
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
May 20, 2010 07:34PM
    
Harjo - you were the model (Belgium) on how to do it. Not to mention I have never even seen a barite from Belgium. Sure have looked at every show for a beautiful calcite though.

Bill Dameron
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
November 08, 2010 08:36AM
Notes on Barite not quite ready to throw away yet.

Baryte, GermanyBaSO4 Orthorhombic
Here will go a good picture of a Baryte from Germany and general remarks about the Baryte from this country. Here are some url's to some of the better German Baryte specimens here on Mindat that can be considered for inclusion in the article. These, in most cases are just for temporary use until we can get images of the much better specimens that are almost certainly out there. We should also consider that there are probably localities out there with fine specimens that are not even mentioned on Mindat. Also in some instances there are sometimes pictures on Mindat, of specimens from a locality, but they were so ratty that I did not include them here, but there may also be really good specimens from there that we should talk about in this article.

Germany
Silbereckle Mine, Reichenbach, Lahr, Black Forest,

Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-135518.html

Schmiedestollen dump, Wittichen, Schenkenzell, Black

Forest, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-148186.html

Wieden, Black Forest, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-30742.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-30743.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-30744.html

Clara Mine, Rankach valley, Oberwolfach, Wolfach,

Black Forest, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-62903.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-148226.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-109143.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-138505.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-82604.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-148243.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-95275.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-66768.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-12607.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-136387.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-12616.html


Segen Gottes Mine, Wiesloch, Heidelberg,

Baden-Württemberg, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-86889.html


Elisabeth Mine, Hain im Spessart, Laufach, Hösbach,

Spessart Mts, Franconia, Bavaria, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-133244.html

Korbach, North Hesse, Hesse, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-8869.html

Christiane Mine, Adorf, Korbach, North Hesse, Hesse,

Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-11769.html

Rockenberg, Wetterau, Hesse, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-227985.html


Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Harz Mts, Lower Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-228167.html

Hilfe Gottes Mine, Wiemannsbucht, Bad Grund,

Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Harz Mts, Lower Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-150011.html

Wildemann, Bad Grund, Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Harz Mts,

Lower Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-54284.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-73907.html

St Andreasberg District, Harz Mts, Lower Saxony,

Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-156153.html


Berzelius Mine, Herkenrath, Bensberg, Overath,

Bergisches Land, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-98020.html

Calcite quarry, Holzen, Arnsberg, Sauerland, North

Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-120350.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-152251.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-150239.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-163386.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-225583.html

Donnerkuhle Quarry, Hagen, Sauerland, North

Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-120773.html

Dreislar Mine, Dreislar, Winterberg, Sauerland, North

Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-115904.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-145450.html
Dreislar Mine, Dreislar, Winterberg, Sauerland, North

Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-115903.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-117669.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-163978.html

Frohnau, Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirge, Saxony,

Germany

Sauberg Mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony,

Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-14145.html

Schlema, Schlema-Hartenstein District, Erzgebirge,

Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-39152.html

Schneeberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-49062.html

Pöhla, Schwarzenberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony,

Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-41389.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-36841.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-130645.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-179641.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-160702.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-219270.html

Luchsbach valley, Pöhla, Schwarzenberg District,

Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-81565.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-56621.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-9388.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-55959.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-177725.html

Heilige Dreifaltigkeit Mine, Zschopau, Erzgebirge,

Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16576.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16578.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16579.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-16577.html


Baryte mine, Brunndöbra, Klingenthal, Vogtland,

Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-78134.html

Ludwig-Vereinigt-Feld Mine, Schönbrunn, Oelsnitz,

Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
http://www.mindat.org/photo-48192.html
http://www.mindat.org/photo-210472.html


Here are some notes about German Baryte that whoever end up writing this article may find handy.

Germany
Harz Mountains, Clausthal. These bladed barite crystals are coated with goethite? are not much to look at but they are from a famous old locality.

Baden-Württemberg, Black Forest, Rankachtal, Oberwolfach, Grube Clara. This mine has produced pointed barite specimens for over a 100 years. Locally, barite is called meisselspat (chisel spar). These specimens are confined mostly to Germany because of the local interest. In this regard they are like the barite specimens from Palos Verde, near Los Angeles, California that are mostly of interest to local collectors. In the Mineral business you can indeed make money by taking coal to Newcastel, especially after Newcastle stopped producing coal. Grube Clara is the last mining operating in an old mining district. The earliest mining documents date from 1652. Since 1850 the mine has produced barite and even recently fine specimens have been found. The mine is also known for water clear fluorite crystals and fine but small secondary minerals (this means micromounts). …collectors are admitted to the dumps at the barite mill near Wolfach for a fee of about $1.1
1 Mineralogical Record, Vol. 8, 1977, p 306.

Sauerland, Dreislar. “Wright’s Rock Shop has acquired a new lot of very impressive, large (25-30 cm) groups of thick, pink and white, bladed barite crystals from Dreislar, Most are sprinkled with lustrous chalcopyrite disphenoids, and are exceptionally good for the locality.”1
1. Mineralogical Record, Vol. 20, 1989. P. 398.
Ask Helmut Bruckner how much of this material there was and the nature of the crystals and a better locality.

Saxony, Erzgebirge, Obersachsen, Crottendorf, Pöhla Uranium Mine. “At the same dealer’s stand (Ben de Wit) were some large, spectacular groups of the new golden barite from the Pöhla uranium mine…The resemblance this time is to the well-known golden barites from the Eagle mine, Colorado. The crystals are bright, gemmy, deep orange tablets to 4 co on an edge in groups to 12 cm ($650), and also one 25 x 30-cm group ($1500).”1 “Only about 200 decent specimens have been found. …collected over the last 4 to 5 years. …Transparent yellow-brown crystals up to 12 cm were found initially, but more recent crystals are generally a lighter yellow dolor and smaller in size (up to 5 cm). Specimens range from miniature size to large cabinet size.”2 This last bit was apparently reported by Ben De Wit to Wendell Wilson at the Denver show in 1986. Many more specimens made their appearance at the Munich and Ste.-Marie-aux-Mines shows(Sotheby's 2001 auction of the Joseph Freilich collection)(Sotheby's 2001 auction of the Joseph Freilich collection) in 1988.
1. Mineralogical Record, Notes from Germany, Thomas Moore, Munich show 1986, Vol. 18, 1987, p.161. 1. Mineralogical Record, Vol. 18, 1987, p.147.

Rheinland-Pfalz, Baumholder, Ruschberg, Clarashall Mine. “Clear parallel xls to 1.5 cm w / red tips and scattered tiny cinnabar xls. 4x5 cm. Rare.”1
1 Bill Dameron, personal communication, 2003, description of a specimen in his collection.
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Crystals not pistols.
avatar Re: Baryte, Germany
March 18, 2011 09:18AM
    
Hello,

As I have already told Bill per PM, the barite specimen from the Black Forest is from Münstertal Valley, most likely Teufelsgrund Mine. Wieden could be another possibility.

The Gottesehre specimen from me is this one: http://www.mineralienatlas.de/viewF.php?param=1156511117

Regards,
Sebastian Möller
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