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Formula:
Ca
 
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3-x
(OH)
 
4x
(x = 0.2-1.5)
System:IsometricColour:Usually colourless, pale ...
Hardness:6½
Name:
Named by Felix Cornu in 1905 for Josef Emanuel Hibsch (March 26, 1852 in Hummel, Bohemia (Böhmen) - November 4, 1940 Vienna (Wien), Austria), geologist with the Landwirtschaftliche Akademie (Academy of Agriculture) at Tetschen (Decin), Bohemia.
A variety of Grossular

A variety of Grossular with part of the orthosilicate ions replaced by hydroxide ions. Previously considered by some to be a discrete mineral species itself.

Igumnovite is similar, with Cl in place of (OH).
Grossular-Hibschite Series, and the Hibschite-Katoite Series.

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Classification of Hibschite

Explanation of status:A redefined (IMA 83-B) mineral, replacing hydrogrossular and plazolite root names.
Strunz 8th edition ID:8/A.08-80
Nickel-Strunz 10th (pending) edition ID:9.AD.25

9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
A : Nesosilicates
D : Nesosilicates without additional anions; cations in [6] and/or greater coordination
Dana 8th edition ID:51.4.3d.1

51 : NESOSILICATES Insular SiO4 Groups Only
4 : Insular SiO4 Groups Only with cations in [6] and >[6] coordination
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Type Occurrence of Hibschite

Type Locality:Mariánská Skála (Mariánská hora; Marienberg), Ústí nad Labem (Aussig), Ústí Region, Bohemia (Böhmen; Boehmen), Czech Republic
General Appearance of Type Material:Colourless to pale yellow overgrowths on "titaniferous melanite" crystal.
Year of Discovery:1905

Physical Properties of Hibschite

Lustre:Vitreous, Sub-Vitreous
Diaphaneity (Transparency):Transparent
Colour:Usually colourless, pale yellow, may have tints of grey, green to bluish green, also may be smoky grey to black.
Comment:Dark colour may be due to zonation with melanite.
Streak:White
Hardness (Mohs):6½
Comment:May be as hard as 7
Tenacity:Brittle
Cleavage:None Observed
Fracture:Irregular/Uneven, Sub-Conchoidal
Density (measured):3.06 - 3.25 g/cm3
Density (calculated):3.28 g/cm3

Crystallography of Hibschite

Crystal System:Isometric
Class (H-M):m3m (4/m 3 2/m) - Hexoctahedral
Space Group:Ia3d {I41/a 3 2/d}
Cell Parameters:a = 12Å
Unit Cell Volume:V 1,728.00 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:8
Morphology:Crystals are rare, but may be dominantly octahedral. Occasionally dodecahedral.
Comment:a varies from 11.90 to 12.287

Optical Data of Hibschite

Type:Isotropic

Chemical Properties of Hibschite

Formula:
Ca
 
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3-x
(OH)
 
4x


(x = 0.2-1.5)
Essential elements:Al, Ca, H, O, Si
All elements listed in formula:Al, Ca, H, O, Si
Common Impurities:Fe,Mn,Mg,S

Relationship of Hibschite to other Species

Related Minerals - Nickel-Strunz Grouping):

- +
9.AD.05Larnite
Ca
 
2
SiO
 
4
9.AD.10Calcio-Olivine
Ca
 
2
SiO
 
4
9.AD.15Merwinite
Ca
 
3
Mg(SiO
 
4
)
 
2
9.AD.20Bredigite
Ca
 
7
Mg(SiO
 
4
)
 
4
9.AD.25Andradite
Ca
 
3
Fe
3+
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Almandine
Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Calderite
(Mn
2+
 
,Ca)
 
3
(Fe
3+
 
,Al)
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Goldmanite
Ca
 
3
V
3+
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Grossular
Ca
 
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Henritermierite
Ca
 
3
(Mn
3+
 
,Al)
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
2
(OH)
 
4
9.AD.25Hydroandradite
Ca
 
3
Fe
3+
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3-x
(OH)
 
4x
9.AD.25Katoite
Ca
 
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3-x
(OH)
 
4x
9.AD.25Kimzeyite
Ca
 
3
(Zr,Ti)
 
2
((Si,Al,Fe
3+
 
)O
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Knorringite
Mg
 
3
Cr
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Majorite
Mg
 
3
(Fe
2+
 
,Si,Al)
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Morimotoite
Ca
 
3
(Ti,Fe
2+
 
,Fe
3+
 
)
 
2
((Si,Fe
3+
 
)O
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Pyrope
Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Schorlomite
Ca
 
3
(Ti,Fe
3+
 
)
 
2
((Si,Fe
3+
 
)O
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Spessartine
Mn
2+
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Uvarovite
Ca
 
3
Cr
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.25Wadalite
(Ca,Mg)
 
6
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
4
((Si,Al)O
 
4
)
 
3
O
 
4
Cl
 
3
9.AD.25Holtstamite
Ca
 
3
(Al,Mn
3+
 
)
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
2
(OH)
 
4
9.AD.25Kerimasite
Ca
 
3
Zr
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)(Fe
3+
 
O
 
4
)
 
2
9.AD.25Toturite
Ca
 
3
Sn
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)(Fe
3+
 
O
 
4
)
 
2
9.AD.25Momoiite
(Mn
2+
 
,Ca)
 
3
V
3+
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.30Coffinite
(U
4+
 
,Th)(SiO
 
4
)
 
1-x
(OH)
 
4x
9.AD.30Hafnon
HfSiO
 
4
9.AD.30Thorite
(Th,U)SiO
 
4
9.AD.30Thorogummite
(Th,U)(SiO
 
4
)
 
1-x
(OH)
 
4x
9.AD.30Zircon
ZrSiO
 
4
9.AD.30Stetindite
Ce
4+
 
SiO
 
4
9.AD.35Huttonite
ThSiO
 
4
9.AD.35Tombarthite-(Y)
Y
 
4
(Si,H
 
4
)
 
4
O
 
12-x
(OH)
 
4+2x
9.AD.40Eulytine
Bi
 
4
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
9.AD.45Reidite
ZrSiO
 
4

Other Names for Hibschite

Synonyms:
Plasolite
Other Languages:
German:Hibschit
Russian:Гибшит
Spanish:Hibschita

Other Information

Fluorescence in UV light:Generally non-fluorescent. One locality (Mosjoen, Nordland, Norway) has distinct orange fluorescence SW UV.
Health Warning:No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

References for Hibschite

Reference List:

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Bulletin de Minéralogie: 107 (1984), 605.

European Journal of Mineralogy (1989): 1: 363.

Neues Jahrbuch für Mineralogie, Monatshefte (1983) 251-258.

American Mineralogist (1985): 70: 873.

American Mineralogist (1989): 74: 840.

Neues Jahrbuch für Mineralogie, Monatshefte (2001) 49.

Pertlik, F. (2003) Bibliography of hibschite, a hydrogarnet of grossular type. GeoLines 15, 113-119.

E.S Grew, A.J. Locock, S.J. Mills, I.O. Galuskina, E.V. Galuskin, and U. Hålenius (2012) Counting Garnets: A New Nomenclature of the Garnet Supergroup. European Mineralogical Conference Vol. 1, EMC2012-21-2, 2012

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    • Localities for Hibschite

    The map shows a selection of localities that have latitude and longitude coordinates recorded. Click on the symbol to view information about a locality. The symbol next to localities in the list can be used to jump to that position on the map.
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    (TL) indicates type locality. ? indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. All other localities listed without reference should be considered as uncertain and unproven until references can be found.
    Australia
     
    • New South Wales
      • Yancowinna Co.
    		Birch BH Book
    Austria
     
    • Lower Austria
      • Waldviertel
        • Drosendorf-Zissersdorf
          • Pingendorf
    		Kolitsch, U. (2008)
    Canada
     
    • Ontario
      • Thunder Bay District
        • Nipigon
          • Seagull Lake area
    		Chakhmouradian, A. R. & Medici, L. (2006): "Clinohydroxylapatite: a new apatite-group mineral from northwest Ontario (Canada), and new data on the extent of Na-S substitution in natural apatites", European Journal of Mineralogy 18, 105-112
    • Québec
      • Laurentides
        • Deux-Montagnes RCM
          • Saint-Joseph-du-Lac
            • Oka complex
    		SABINA, A.P. (1968), revised (1983) Rocks and Minerals for the collector. Kingston, Ontario to Lac St-Jean, Quebec. Geological Survey of Canada paper 67-51 (1968), Misc. Report No. 32 (1983), 46-49.
      • Montérégie
        • Rouville RCM
          • Mont Saint-Hilaire
    		POIRIER, G. and ERCIT, S. (2009) Chemical composition and zoning of garnets from several Quebec localities. Abstract with Program, 36th Rochester Mineralogical Symposium. Reprinted in: Rocks & Minerals, 85, 463.
    Czech Republic
     
    • Bohemia (Böhmen; Boehmen)
      • Ústí Region
        • Ústí nad Labem (Aussig)
    		Ulrych, J. et al. (2000): Tertiary phonolite laccolith of Mariánská hora hill, N. Bohemia: geological, petrological and mineralogical characteristics. Acta Montana IRSM AS CR, series A No. 15 (116), p. 5-44.
    • Moravia (Mähren; Maehren)
      • Vysočina Region
        • Havlíčkův Brod (Německý Brod; Deutschbrod)
    		Pauliš, P.: Nejzajímavější mineralogická naleziště Čech II. Kutná Hora: Kuttna, 2003, s. 96 - 98.
    France
     
    • Auvergne
      • Haute-Loire
        • La Chaise-Dieu
          • Cistrières
            • Pervenchères
    • Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
      • Hautes-Alpes
        • Montgenèvre
    		Bull. Minéral. , 1984, 107, pp. 345-356.
    Germany
     
    • Bavaria
      • Franconia
        • Maroldsweisach
    		Wittern: "Mineralfundorte in Deutschland", 2001
    • Lower Saxony
      • Harz
        • Bad Harzburg
    		No reference listed
    • Rhineland-Palatinate
      • Eifel
        • Mayen
          • Ettringen
            • Bellerberg volcano
    		[Blass, G., Graf, H.W., Neue Mineralienfunde aus der Eifel und dem Siegerland, Mineralien-Welt 10/3, 23, 1999] [A. Wittern: Mineralfundorte in Deutschland, Schweizerbart (Stuttgart), 2001]
    Israel
     
    • Negev
    		Gross, S. (1977): The Mineralogy of the Hatrurim Formation, Israel. Geological Survey of Israel, Bulletin no. 70, 80 pp.
    Italy
     
    • Campania
      • Naples Province
        • Somma-Vesuvius Complex
          • Monte Somma
            • Ercolano
              • San Vito
    		Russo, M., Punzo, I. (2004): I minerali del Somma-Vesuvio, AMI
    • Liguria
      • Savona Province
        • Urbe
          • Vara
            • Bric Mundu (Bric Mondo; Bric Mondu)
    		NHM collection (was hessonite)
    • Trentino-Alto Adige
      • Trento Province
        • Ala
          • Pilcante
    		"Giorgio Bortolozzi (visual identification)"
    • Tuscany
      • Lucca Province
        • Garfagnana
          • Villa Collemandina
    • Veneto
      • Vicenza Province
        • Cornedo Vicentino
          • Spagnago
    		Boscardin M.,Daleffe A.,Rocchetti I., Zordan A. (2011) " Minerali del Vicentino - Aggiornamenti, località e nuove determinazioni " Museo di Archeologia e Scienze Naturali “G. Zannato” – Montecchio Maggiore (Vicenza), pp.183; - Boscardin M.,Daleffe A.,Rocchetti I., Zordan A. (2011) " Minerali del Vicentino - Aggiornamenti, località e nuove determinazioni " Museo di Archeologia e Scienze Naturali “G. Zannato” – Montecchio Maggiore (Vicenza), pp.183
        • Laghi
    		Boscardin M., Daleffe A., Rocchetti I., Zordan A. “I minerali nel Vicentino”, Museo “G. Zannato”, Montecchio Maggiore (Vicenza), 2011.
        • Tretto di Schio
          • Val Munari
            • Contrade Maglio-Pornaro
    		- Boscardin M.,Daleffe A.,Rocchetti I., Zordan A. (2011) " Minerali del Vicentino - Aggiornamenti, località e nuove determinazioni " Museo di Archeologia e Scienze Naturali “G. Zannato” – Montecchio Maggiore (Vicenza), pp.183
    Japan
     
    • Honshu Island
      • Kanto Region
        • Chiba Prefecture
          • Awa-gun
            • Tawara-mura
    		Dr. Kameki Kinoshita collection (curated at Geological Survey of Japan)
    Morocco
     
    • Souss-Massa-Draâ Region
      • Ouarzazate Province
        • Tazenakht
    		S. Weiß: Lapis 31(7/8), 72-73 (2006)
    Norway
     
    • Telemark
      • Skien
    		Jamtveit B., Dahlgren S. and Austrheim H. (1997): High-grade contact metamorphism of calcareous rocks from the Oslo Rift, Southern Norway. American Mineralogist. 82 : 1241 - 1254
    Poland
     
    • Lower Silesia (Dolnośląskie)
      • Gogołów-Jordanów Massif
    		DUBIŃSKA E., 1995: Rodingites of the eastern part of Jordanów-Gogołów serpentynite massif, Lower Silesia, Poland. Can. Mineral., 33, 585-608.GALUSKIN E., SZEŁĘG E., 2003: The first finding of Ag-amalgamates in rodingites (Nasławice, Lower Silesia, Poland). Mineralogical Society of Poland - Special Papers, Vol. 22.
    • Upper Silesia (Śląskie)
      • Bielsko-Biała District
        • Jasienica community
    		- Włodyka R. 2010: Hydrogarnets from picrite and teschenite sills in the Polish Western Carpathians. Mineralogia - Special Papers, vol. 37, pp. 116-117
      • Cieszyn District
        • Goleszów commune
    		- Włodyka R. 2010: Hydrogarnets from picrite and teschenite sills in the Polish Western Carpathians. Mineralogia - Special Papers, vol. 37, pp. 116-117
    Romania
     
    • Caraş-Severin Co.
      • Banat Mts
        • Ocna de Fier-Dognecea District
    		http://minerals-of-the-carpathians.eu
    Marincea, S., Dumitraş. D-G., Ghinet, C, Fransolet, A.-M., Hatert, F. & Rondeaux, M. (2011): Gehlenite from three occurrences of high-temperature skarns, Romania: new mineralogical data. Canadian Mineralogist. 49, 1001-1014
    • Hunedoara Co.
      • Hunedoara
    		Marincea, Ş., Bilal, E., Verkaeren, J., Pascal, M.-L., and Fonteilles, M. (2001) Superposed paragenesis in spurrite-, tilleyite- and gehlenite-bearing skarns from Cornet Hill, Apuseni Mountains, Romania. Canadian Mineralogist: 39: 1435-1453.
    Russia
     
    • Eastern-Siberian Region
      • Saha Republic (Sakha Republic; Yakutia)
    		Am Min 90: 1688-1692
    • Northern Region
      • Murmanskaja Oblast'
        • Kola Peninsula
          • Afrikanda
    		Chakhmouradian A.R., Zaitsev A.N. (2002) Calcite–Amphibole–Clinopyroxene rock from the Afrikanda complex, Kola peninsula, Russia: mineralogy and a possible link to carbonatites. III. Silicate minerals. - Can. Miner., Vol.40, pp. 1347-1374.
    • Urals Region
      • Southern Urals
        • Chelyabinsk Oblast'
    		Cesnokov, B., M. Kotrly, and T. Nisanbajev (1998): Brennende Abraumhalden und Aufschlüsse im Tscheljabinsker Kohlenbecken - eine reiche Mineralienküche. Mineralien-Welt, 9 (3), 54-63 (in German).
    Cesnokov, B., M. Kotrly, and T. Nisanbajev (1998): Brennende Abraumhalden und Aufschlüsse im Tscheljabinsker Kohlenbecken - eine reiche Mineralienküche. Mineralien-Welt, 9 (3), 54-63 (in German).
    Slovakia
     
    • Košice Region
      • Spišská Nová Ves Co.
        • Hnilec
    		Koděra, M. et al., 1986 a 1990 : Topografická mineralógia Slovenska, diel 1- 3, Veda – Vydavateľstvo SAV, Bratislava, 1990, 1 – 1590k
    South Africa
     
    • Limpopo Province
    		Cairncross, B. and Dixon, R., (1995) Minerals of South Africa. The Geological Society of South Africa. 93-95.
    • Mpumalanga Province
      • Eastern Bushveld Complex
        • Steelport
    		Cairncross, B. and Dixon, R., (1995) Minerals of South Africa. The Geological Society of South Africa. 93-95pp.
    • North West Province
      • Western Bushveld Complex
        • Brits District
    		Minerals of South Africa
    Minerals of South Africa
    Cairncross, B. and Dixon, R., (1995) Minerals of South Africa. The Geological Society of South Africa. 93-95pp.
    Cairncross, B. and Dixon, R., (1995) Minerals of South Africa. The Geological Society of South Africa. 93-95pp.
    Minerals of South Africa
    • Northern Cape Province
      • Kalahari manganese fields
        • Hotazel
    		Cairncross, B. and Dixon, R., (1995) Minerals of South Africa. The Geological Society of South Africa. 214.
        • Kuruman
          • N'Chwaning Mines
    		Cairncross, B. and Dixon, R., (1995) Minerals of South Africa. The Geological Society of South Africa. 214.
    Cairncross, B. and Dixon, R., (1995) Minerals of South Africa. The Geological Society of South Africa. 93-95pp.
    Spain
     
    • Aragón
      • Teruel
        • Loscos
    		Calvo, M. (2008) Minerales de Aragón. Prames (Zaragoza) 463 pages
    Sweden
     
    • Värmland
      • Filipstad
    		Nysten, P., Holtstam, D. and Jonsson, E. (1999) The Långban minerals. In Långban - The mines,their minerals, geology and explorers (D. Holtstam and J. Langhof, eds.), Swedish Museum of Natural History and Raster Förlag, Stockholm & Chr. Weise Verlag, Munich, pp. 89-183.
        • Persberg district
          • Pajsberg
    		Nysten, P. (2004): Harstigen ett mineralogisk eldorado i Bergslagen. Norsk Bergverksmuseum Skrift 28: 5-13
    USA
     
    • California
      • Riverside Co.
        • Crestmore
    		[micromounts@yahoogroups.com]
    • Washington
      • Jefferson Co.
        • Mount Jupiter
          • Elkhorn Group
    		Minerals of Washington, Bart Cannon, 1975
      • Mason Co.
        • Copper Creek (Boulder Creek)
    		Cannon, B. (1975): Minerals of Washington, p.39
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