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Hydroxylherderite

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Palermo No. 1 Mine (Palermo #1 pegmatite), Groton, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, USA
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Formula:
CaBe[(OH,F)|PO
 
4
]
System:MonoclinicColour:Colorless, gray, brown, ...
Hardness:5 - 5½
Name:For Siegmund August Wolfgang von Herder (1776-1838), Mining official in Freiberg, Germany, and the "Hydroxyl-" prefix for the dominance of hydroxyl ions over Fluorine.


Herderite-Hydroxylherderite Series. The Hydroxyl-dominant analogue of Herderite. Hydroxylherderite is isotypic with Datolite.

Found usually as a pegmatite mineral formed during late stage hydrothermal deposition.

Warning: Most specimens labelled "herderite" are in fact hydroxylherderite.

Classification of Hydroxylherderite

IMA status:Valid - first described prior to 1959 (pre-IMA) - "Grandfathered"
Strunz 8th edition ID:7/B.01-20
Nickel-Strunz 10th (pending) edition ID:8.BA.10

8 : PHOSPHATES, ARSENATES, VANADATES
B : Phosphates, etc., with additional anions, without H2O
A : With small and medium-sized cations
Dana 8th edition ID:41.5.4.2

41 : ANHYDROUS PHOSPHATES, ETC.CONTAINING HYDROXYL OR HALOGEN
5 : (AB)2(XO4)Zq
Hey's CIM Ref.:19.3.4

19 : Phosphates
3 : Phosphates of Be and Mg
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Occurrences of Hydroxylherderite

Geological Setting:Late stage mineral in miarolitic cavities in complex granitic pegmatites, alteration of beryl or beryllonite, hydrothermal.

Physical Properties of Hydroxylherderite

Lustre:Vitreous, Sub-Vitreous, Resinous
Diaphaneity (Transparency):Transparent, Translucent
Colour:Colorless, gray, brown, pale yellow, greenish white, light blue, purple; colourless in transmitted light.
Comment:May be blue-green or blue in daylight, lavender or light violet in incandescent light
Hardness (Mohs):5 - 5½
Cleavage:Poor/Indistinct
On {110}, interrupted.
Fracture:Sub-Conchoidal
Density (measured):2.95 g/cm3
Density (calculated):2.94(2) g/cm3

Crystallography of Hydroxylherderite

Crystal System:Monoclinic
Class (H-M):2/m - Prismatic
Space Group:P21/b (P1 1 21/b) [P21/c] {P1 21/c 1} {P21/a}
Cell Parameters:a = 9.789(2) Å, b = 7.661(1) Å, c = 4.804(1) Å
β = 90.02°
Ratio:a:b:c = 1.278 : 1 : 0.627
Unit Cell Volume:V 360.27 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:4
Morphology:Stout prismatic crystals [100] or [001]; thick tabular {001}. Commonly pseudo-orthorhombic in aspect, rarely monoclinic; pseudo-hexagonal [001] at times. Also occurs as botryoidal or spheroidal aggregates with a radial-fibrous structure.
Twinning:On {100} or {001} as fishtail contact. Most crystals are twinned; however, some exhibit no outward signs of this morphology.

Optical Data of Hydroxylherderite

Type:Biaxial (-)
RI values: nα = 1.590 - 1.615 nβ = 1.610 - 1.634 nγ = 1.620 - 1.643
2V:Measured: 70° to 77°, Calculated: 64°
Maximum Birefringence:δ = 0.030

Chart shows birefringence interference colour range (at 30µm thickness) and does not take into account mineral colouration.
Surface Relief:Moderate
Dispersion:r > v inclined

Chemical Properties of Hydroxylherderite

Formula:
CaBe[(OH,F)|PO
 
4
]
Essential elements:Be, Ca, H, O, P
All elements listed in formula:Be, Ca, F, H, O, P

Relationship of Hydroxylherderite to other Species

Series:Forms a series with Herderite (see here)
Common Associates:
TopazQuartzPolylithionite-Trilithionite SeriesMuscoviteMicrocline
ElbaiteCassiteriteAlbite
Related Minerals - Nickel-Strunz Grouping):

- +
8.BA.05Väyrynenite
Mn
2+
 
Be[(OH,F)|PO
 
4
]
8.BA.10Bergslagite
CaBe[OH|AsO
 
4
]
8.BA.10Herderite
CaBe[(F,OH)|PO
 
4
]
8.BA.15Babefphite
BaBe[(F,OH)|PO
 
4
]
Related Minerals - Hey's Index Grouping:

- +
19.3.1Moraesite
Be
 
2
[OH|PO
 
4
] · 4H
 
2
O
19.3.2Beryllonite
NaBe[PO
 
4
]
19.3.3Hurlbutite
CaBe
 
2
[PO
 
4
]
 
2
19.3.5Glucine
CaBe
 
4
[(OH)
 
2
|PO
 
4
]
 
2
 · 0.5H
 
2
O
19.3.6Fransoletite
Ca
 
3
Be
 
2
[HPO
 
4
|PO
 
4
]
 
2
 · 4H
 
2
O
19.3.7Uralolite
Ca
 
2
Be
 
4
[OH|PO
 
4
]
 
3
 · 5H
 
2
O
19.3.9Pahasapaite
Li
 
8
(Ca,Li,K)
 
10.5
Be
 
24
(PO
 
4
)
 
24
·38H
 
2
O
19.3.10Tiptopite
K
 
2
(Na,Ca)
 
2
Li
 
3
Be
 
6
[OH|(PO
 
4
)
 
3
]
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
19.3.11Gainesite
Na(Na,K)(Be,Li)Zr
 
2
[PO
 
4
]
 
4
 · 1.5-2H
 
2
O
19.3.12Roscherite
Ca(Mn
2+
 
,Fe
2+
 
)
 
5
Be
 
4
[(OH)
 
4
|(PO
 
4
)
 
6
] · 6H
 
2
O
19.3.13Faheyite
(Mn,Mg,Na)Be
 
2
Fe
 
2
(PO
 
4
)
 
4
·6H
 
2
O
19.3.14Farringtonite
Mg
 
3
[PO
 
4
]
 
2
19.3.15Holtedahlite
Mg
 
2
[OH|PO
 
4
]
19.3.16Althausite
Mg
 
2
[(OH,F)|PO
 
4
]
19.3.17Newberyite
MgHPO
 
4
·3H
 
2
O
19.3.18Phosphorrösslerite
MgHPO
 
4
·7H
 
2
O
19.3.19Bobierrite
Mg
 
3
(PO
 
4
)
 
2
·8H
 
2
O
19.3.20Barićite
(Mg,Fe)
 
3
(PO
 
4
)
 
2
·8H
 
2
O
19.3.21Panethite
(Na,Ca)
 
2
(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)
 
2
[PO
 
4
]
 
2
19.3.22Dittmarite
NH
 
4
MgPO
 
4
·H
 
2
O
19.3.23Struvite
NH
 
4
MgPO
 
4
·6H
 
2
O
19.3.24Hannayite
(NH
 
4
)
 
2
Mg
 
3
H
 
4
(PO
 
4
)
 
4
·8H
 
2
O

Other Names for Hydroxylherderite

Synonyms:
Hydro-fluorherderiteHydro-herderite
Other Languages:
German:Hydroxylherderit
Spanish:Hydroxylherderita

Other Information

Fluorescence in UV light:Weak yellow under SW
Sometimes bright yellow-orange phosphorescence
Other Information:Soluble in acids.

An alteration product of Beryllonite at Newry, Maine, USA.
Health Warning:No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

References for Hydroxylherderite

Reference List:Dana (1884) American Journal of Science: 27: 229.

Des Cloizeaux (1884) Bulletin de la Société française de Minéralogie: 7: 130.

Bertrand in: Des Cloizeaux (1886) Bulletin de la Société française de Minéralogie: 9: 141.

Penfield and Harper (1886) American Journal of Science: 32: 107.

Dana, E.S. (1892) System of Mineralogy, 6th. Edition, New York: 760.

Penfield (1894) American Journal of Science: 47: 329 (as Hydro-herderite and Hydro-fluorherderite).

Ford (1912) Zeitschrift für Kristallographie, Mineralogie und Petrographie, Leipzig: 50: 97.

Goldschmidt, V. (1918) Atlas der Krystallformen. 9 volumes, atlas, and text: vol. 4: 127.

Palache, C. and Shannon (1928) American Mineralogist: 13: 394.

Hintze, Carl (1931) Handbuch der Mineralogie. Berlin and Leipzig. 6 volumes: 1 [4A]: 688.

Yatsevitch (1935) American Mineralogist: 20: 426.

Strunz (1936) Zeitschrift für Kristallographie, Mineralogie und Petrographie, Leipzig: 93: 146.

Palache, C., Berman, H., & Frondel, C. (1951), The System of Mineralogy of James Dwight Dana and Edward Salisbury Dana, Yale University 1837-1892, Volume II. John Wiley and Sons, Inc., New York, 7th edition, revised and enlarged, 1124 pp.: 820-822.

American Mineralogist (1974): 59: 919-925.

Mineralogical Record (1979): 10: 5.

Anthony, J.W., Bideaux, R.A., Bladh, K.W., and Nichols, M.C. (2000) Handbook of Mineralogy, Volume IV. Arsenates, Phosphates, Vanadates. Mineral Data Publishing, Tucson, AZ, 680pp.: 256.

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    Localities for Hydroxylherderite

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    (TL) indicates type locality. ? indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. All other localities listed without reference should be considered as uncertain and unproven until references can be found.
    Austria
     
    • Carinthia
      • Koralpe Mts
        • Moschkogel Mt. - Weinebene area
          • Brandrücken
    		G. Niedermayr, I. Praetzel: Mineralien Kärntens, 1995
    • Upper Austria
      • Linz
        • St Georgen
    		R. Exel: Die Mineralien und Erzlagerstätten Österreichs (1993)
    Brazil
     
    • Northeast Region
      • Paraíba
        • Borborema mineral province
          • Frei Martinho
    		[Clark, 1993 - "Hey's Mineral Index"]
    • Southeast Region
      • Minas Gerais
        • Coronel Murta
    		[MinRecord 30:150]
        • Doce valley
          • Divino das Laranjeiras
            • Linópolis
    [MinRec 14:235]
          • Galiléia
            • Laranjeiras
    		No reference listed
            • Sapucaia do Norte
    		Cassedanne, J.P. & Baptista, A. (1999): Famous Mineral Localities: The Sapucaia Pegmatite Minas Gerais, Brazil. Mineralogical Record, 30: 347-360 + 365
          • Governador Valadares
            • Golconda District
    		Am Min 59:919-925
    [www.johnbetts-fineminerals.com]
        • Virgem da Lapa
    		Rocks & Min.: 63: 45, 389.
    Canada
     
    • Manitoba
    		Canadian Mineralogist: 40: 1339-1345.
    Czech Republic
     
    • Moravia (Mähren; Maehren)
      • Vysočina Region
        • Žďár nad Sázavou
    		Cempírek, J.: Hydroxylherderit z Rožné. Minerál, 2001, roč. 9, č. 5, s. 328-329
    P. Pauliš (2001): Nejzajímavější naleziště Moravy a Slezska. Kuttna, Kutná Hora.
    P. Pauliš (2001): Nejzajímavější naleziště Moravy a Slezska. Kuttna, Kutná Hora.
    France
     
    • Auvergne
      • Allier
        • Ebreuil
          • Echassières
    		G. Aubert : "Les coupoles granitiques de Montebras et d'Echassières (Massif Central Français) et la genèse de leur minéralisations (BRGM, 1969)
    Italy
     
    • Piedmont
      • Verbano-Cusio-Ossola Province
        • Baveno
          • Oltrefiume
            • Mount Camoscio
    		American Mineralogist, 84(5-6), 782-789
    Japan
     
    • Honshu Island
      • Kanto Region
        • Ibaraki Prefecture
          • Chiyoda-machi
    		Matsubara, S. & Miyawaki, R. (2006) Catalogue of Japanese Minerals (National Science Museum)
      • Tohoku Region
        • Fukushima Prefecture
    		Matsubara, S. & Miyawaki, R. (2006) Catalogue of Japanese Minerals (National Science Museum)
    Kazakhstan
     
    • Shyghys Qazaqstan Oblysy (Vostochno-Kazakhstanskaya [Eastern-Kazakhstan] Oblast')
      • Kalba Range
        • Irtysh River
    Mozambique
     
    • Zambezia Province
      • Alto Ligonha District
    		No reference listed
    Namibia
     
    • Erongo Region
      • Swakopmund District
        • Swakopmund
    		Mineralogical Record: 36(4): 317-335.
    Pakistan
     
    • Northern Areas
      • Baltistan
        • Skardu District
          • Braldu Valley
    		Baluwet, D., 2004. Pakistan: Minerals, Mountains and Majesty, Lapis International, 96 p.
    Dudley Blauwet, Bill Smith and Carol Smith (2004) Table of mineral localities of the northern areas of Pakistan and other selected sites. (in "Pakistan: Minerals, Mountains & Majesty", Lapis International, East Hampton, Connecticut)
    Blauwet, D., Smith, B., and Smith, C., 1997. A Guide to the Mineral Localities of the Northern Areas, Pakistan. Mineralogical Record 28(3), 183-200.
          • Shigar Valley
    		Kazmi et al, 1985, Gem pegmatites of the Shingas-Dusso area, Gilgit, Pakistan. Mineralogical Record 16:4
    Dudley Blauwet, Bill Smith and Carol Smith (2004) Table of mineral localities of the northern areas of Pakistan and other selected sites. (in "Pakistan: Minerals, Mountains & Majesty", Lapis International, East Hampton, Connecticut)
      • Gilgit District
        • Haramosh Mts.
    		Ref: Blauwet, D., Smith, B., and Smith, C., 1997. A Guide to the Mineral Locations of Northern Pakistan. Mineralogical Record 28(3), 183-200.
    Dudley Blauwet, Bill Smith and Carol Smith (2004) Table of mineral localities of the northern areas of Pakistan and other selected sites. (in "Pakistan: Minerals, Mountains & Majesty", Lapis International, East Hampton, Connecticut)
    Portugal
     
    • Viseu District
      • Penalva do Castelo
    		Nuno Afonso collection
    Sweden
     
    • Södermanland
      • Haninge
    		Nysten,P. & Gustafsson, L.(2006): I jakt på sällsynta mineral. Geologiskt forum nr 49, 22-25
    USA
     
    • California
      • Riverside Co.
    		Ordway, A. (2003) The Blue Chihuahua Mine. Where art thou? Bulletin of the Mineralogical Society of Southern California, January.
    Ordway, A. (2003) The Blue Chihuahua Mine. Where art thou? Bulletin of the Mineralogical Society of Southern California, January.
      • San Diego Co.
        • Warner Springs District
    		Cordova, E. M. 2004. Visual study of a pale grayish yellow to colorless crystal measuring 10x8x7mm, including comparative analysis of similar regional occurrences.
    • Maine
      • Androscoggin Co.
        • Auburn
          • Mt. Apatite District
    		No reference listed
    No reference listed
    "Maine Mineral Localities, 3rd Ed." by Thompson, W.B., et.al., 1998
    No reference listed
        • Poland
    		American Mineralogist: 63: 913-917.
      • Cumberland Co.
        • Baldwin
    		No reference listed
      • Oxford Co.
        • Albany
    		"Maine Mineral Localities, 3rd Ed." by Thompson, W.B., et.al., 1998
    "Maine Mineral Localities, 3rd Ed." by Thompson, W.B., ey.al., 1998
        • Buckfield
    		[MinRec 26:577]
        • Greenwood
    		No reference listed
    No reference listed
    No reference listed
    No reference listed
    No reference listed
        • Hebron
    		Palache, C., Berman, H., & Frondel, C. (1951), The System of Mineralogy of James Dwight Dana and Edward Salisbury Dana, Yale University 1837-1892, Volume II: 822.
        • Newry
    		No reference listed
    King, V. T., 2006, Minerals of Halls Ridge and Plumbago-Puzzle Mountain, Newry, ... Maine, Mineral News, v. 22(6): p. 1-3.
    Am Min 63:913-917
    "Mineralogy of Maine, Vol. 1" by King, V.T. & Foord, E.E., Maine Geologic Survey, 1994
    No reference listed
        • Norway
    		No reference listed
        • Paris
    		Palache, C., Berman, H., & Frondel, C. (1951), The System of Mineralogy of James Dwight Dana and Edward Salisbury Dana, Yale University 1837-1892, Volume II: 822; American Mineralogist: 63: 913-917.
        • Peru
    		No reference listed
        • Rumford
    		"Maine Mineral Localities, 3rd Ed." by Thompson, W.B., et.al., 1998)
        • Stoneham
    		Am Min 63:913-917
        • West Paris
    		No reference listed
      • Sagadahoc Co.
        • Topsham
    		No reference listed
    No reference listed
    • New Hampshire
      • Grafton Co.
        • Alexandria
    		Rocks & Min. 65:304
        • Groton
    		No reference listed
    American Mineralogist: 63: 913-917.
    Am Min 63:913-917
        • Orange
      • Strafford Co.
        • Strafford
    		Rocks & Min. 80:256 (2005)
    • North Carolina
      • Cleveland Co.
        • Kings Mountain District
    		Rocks & Minerals: 60: 65, 76-83.
      • Gaston Co.
        • Bessemer City
    • South Dakota
      • Custer Co.
        • Custer District
          • Fourmile
    		Mineralogical Record: 17: 237-254; Rocks & Minerals: 60: 117.
    • Virginia
      • Amelia Co.
        • Amelia (Amelia Court House)
    		Minerals of Virginia, 1990 by R. V. Dietrich
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