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Obertiite

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Wannenköpfe, Ochtendung, Polch, Eifel Mts, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
© Fred Kruijen

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Formula:
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
3
(Ti,Fe
3+
 
,Mn
3+
 
)
 
2
][O
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
System:MonoclinicColour:Pale pink
Hardness:5
Name:Named for Roberta Oberti of Pavia, Italy
This page provides mineralogical data about Obertiite.

Classification of Obertiite

IMA status:Approved 1998
Strunz 8th edition ID:8/F.08-89
Nickel-Strunz 10th (pending) edition ID:9.DE.25

9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
D : Inosilicates
E : Inosilicates with 2-periodic double chains, Si4O11; Clinoamphiboles
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Type Occurrence of Obertiite

Type Locality:Ettringer Bellerberg Mt., Ettringen, Mayen, Eifel Mts, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
General Appearance of Type Material:acicular crystals
Place of Conservation of Type Material:Canadian Museum of Nature, Ottawa, Canada
Geological Setting of type material:Cavities in basaltic flows

Physical Properties of Obertiite

Lustre:Vitreous
Colour:Pale pink
Streak:Colorless
Hardness (Mohs):5
Tenacity:Brittle
Cleavage:Perfect
{110}
Fracture:Conchoidal
Density (calculated):3.16 g/cm3

Crystallography of Obertiite

Crystal System:Monoclinic
Class (H-M):2/m - Prismatic
Space Group:B2/m (B1 1 2/m) [C2/m] {C1 2/m 1}
Cell Parameters:a = 9.776Å, b = 17.919Å, c = 5.292Å
β = 104.05°
Ratio:a:b:c = 0.546 : 1 : 0.295
Unit Cell Volume:V 899.3 ų
Z:2
Morphology:Elongated blades and divergent masses

Optical Data of Obertiite

Type:Biaxial (-)
RI values: nα = 1.643 nβ = 1.657 nγ = 1.670
2V:Measured: 81° , Calculated: 93°
Maximum Birefringence:δ = 0.027

Chart shows birefringence interference colour range (at 30µm thickness) and does not take into account mineral colouration.
Surface Relief:Moderate
Dispersion:None visible
Pleochroism:Weak
Comments:pink
red-orange

Chemical Properties of Obertiite

Formula:
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
3
(Ti,Fe
3+
 
,Mn
3+
 
)
 
2
][O
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
Essential elements:
All elements listed in formula:Fe, Mg, Mn, Na, O, Si, Ti

Relationship of Obertiite to other Species

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9.DE.XIMA2007-053
KCa
 
2
(Fe
2+
4
Al)Si
 
6
Al
 
2
O
 
22
(OH)
 
2
9.DE.05Cummingtonite
[ ][Mg
 
2
][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.05Grunerite
[ ][Fe
2+
2
][Fe
2+
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.05Manganocummingtonite
[ ][Mn
2+
2
][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.05Manganogrunerite
[ ][Mn
2+
2
][Fe
2+
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.05Permanganogrunerite
[ ][Mn
2+
2
][Mn
2+
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Actinolite
☐Ca
 
2
(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)
 
5
(Si
 
8
O
 
22
)(OH)
 
2
9.DE.10Alumino-ferro-hornblende
Ca
 
2
Fe
 
4
Al
 
2
Si
 
7
O
 
22
(OH)
 
2
9.DE.10Alumino-magnesio-hornblende
Ca
 
2
Mg
 
4
Al
 
2
Si
 
7
O
 
22
(OH)
 
2
9.DE.10Aluminotschermakite
☐[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Ferritschermakite
☐[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Ferro-Actinolite
☐[Ca
 
2
][(Fe
2+
 
,Mg)
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Ferrohornblende
☐[Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Ferrotschermakite
☐[Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Fe
3+
 
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Joesmithite
[(Ca,Pb)][(Ca,Pb)
 
2
][(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|BeSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Magnesiohornblende
☐[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Tremolite
☐[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Tschermakite
☐[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Fe
3+
 
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Ferri-Ferrotschermakite
9.DE.10Alumino-Ferrotschermakite
9.DE.10Cannilloite
[Ca][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
3
Si
 
5
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Fluor-cannilloite
[Ca][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Al][(F,OH)
 
2
|Al
 
3
Si
 
5
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Parvo-manganotremolite
☐[CaMn
2+
 
][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.10Fluorotremolite
☐[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
5
][F
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Edenite
Na[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Ferro-edenite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
5
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Ferrokaersutite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Ti][O|OH|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Ferropargasite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Hastingsite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Fe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Kaersutite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Ti][O|OH|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Magnesiohastingsite
Na[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Fe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Magnesiosadanagaite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
3
Si
 
5
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Pargasite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Sadanagaite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
3
Si
 
5
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Fluoro-edenite
Na[Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
5
][(F,OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Potassic-Ferrisadanagaite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
3
Si
 
5
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Potassic-Magnesiosadanagaite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
3
Si
 
5
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Potassicpargasite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Potassicsadanagaite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
3
Si
 
5
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Fluoro-magnesiohastingsite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Fe
3+
 
][F
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Fluoro-potassichastingsite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Fe
3+
 
][(F,OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Chloro-potassichastingsite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Fe
3+
 
][(Cl,OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Fluoropargasite
[Na][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Al][(F,OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Parvo-mangano-edenite
Na[CaMn
2+
 
][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Chloro-potassicpargasite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Al][(Cl,OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Chloro-potassic-ferro-edenite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Fe
2+
5
][(Cl,OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.15Potassic-magnesiohastingsite
[K][Ca
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Fe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Aluminobarroisite
☐[CaNa][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Aluminokatophorite
9.DE.20Aluminotaramite
Na[CaNa][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Barroisite
☐[CaNa][Mg
 
3
AlFe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferri-ferrobarroisite
☐[CaNa][Fe
2+
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Alumino-ferrowinchite
9.DE.20Ferri-ferrowinchite
☐[CaNa][Fe
2+
4
(Fe
3+
 
,Al)][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferribarroisite
☐[CaNa][Mg
 
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferritaramite
Na[CaNa][Fe
2+
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferrikatophorite
Na[CaNa][Fe
2+
4
(Fe
3+
 
,Al)][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Alumino-ferrobarroisite
☐[CaNa][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferrobarroisite
☐[CaNa][Fe
2+
3
AlFe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferrorichterite
Na[CaNa][Fe
2+
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferrowinchite
☐[CaNa][Fe
2+
4
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Katophorite
Na[CaNa][Fe
2+
4
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferri-magnesiotaramite
Na[CaNa][Mg
 
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Magnesiotaramite
Na[CaNa][Mg
 
3
AlFe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Richterite
Na[CaNa][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Taramite
Na[CaNa][Fe
2+
3
AlFe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Winchite
☐[CaNa][Mg
 
4
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Alumino-Magnesiotaramite
Na[CaNa][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Fluororichterite
Na[CaNa][Mg
 
5
][(F,OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Magnesiokatophorite
Na[CaNa][Mg
 
4
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Fluoro-potassicrichterite
K[CaNa][Mg
 
5
][(F,OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Potassicrichterite
K[CaNa][Mg
 
5
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Parvowinchite
☐[Mn
2+
 
Na][Mg
 
4
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Ferriwinchite
☐[CaNa][Mg
 
4
(Fe
3+
 
,Al)][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20Fluoro-alumino-magnesiotaramite
Na[CaNa][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][F
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.20IMA2007-015
K[CaNa][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Al
 
2
Si
 
6
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Arfvedsonite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Fe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Eckermannite
[Na][Na
 
2
][(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)
 
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Ferro-eckermannite
[Na][Na
 
2
][(Fe
2+
 
,Mg)
 
4
Al][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Clinoferroholmquistite
[ ][Li
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Ferroglaucophane
[ ][Na
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Glaucophane
[ ][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Kornite
[(Na,K)][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
2
Mn
3+
2
Li][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Kôzulite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mn
2+
4
(Fe
3+
 
,Al)][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Leakeite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
2
Fe
3+
2
Li][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Magnesioriebeckite
[ ][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Magnesio-arfvedsonite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Fe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Nybøite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Riebeckite
[ ][Na
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Ungarettiite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mn
2+
2
Mn
3+
3
][O
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Ferric-ferronyboite
9.DE.25Ferri-clinoferroholmquistite
[ ][Li
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Ferric-nyboite
9.DE.25Ferroleakeite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Fe
2+
2
Fe
3+
2
Li][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Ferronyböite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Al
 
2
][(OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Fluoro-ferroleakeite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Fe
2+
2
Fe
3+
2
Li][(F,OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Sodic-ferri-clinoferroholmquistite
[(☐,Na)][(Li,☐)
 
2
][Fe
2+
3
Fe
3+
2
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Fluoro-magnesio-arfvedsonite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Fe
3+
 
][(F,OH)
 
2
|[Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Sodic-ferripedrizite
[Na][Li
 
2
][Mg
 
2
Fe
3+
2
Li][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Potassicleakeite
[K][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
2
Fe
3+
2
Li][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Fluoronybøite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
3
Al
 
2
][(F,OH)
 
2
|AlSi
 
7
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Ferriwhittakerite
Na(Na
 
1.0-1.5
Li
 
0.5-1.0
)
 
2
(Fe
3+
2
Mg
 
2
Li)Si
 
8
O
 
22
(OH)
 
2
9.DE.25Ferri-ottoliniite
[](Na
 
1
Li
 
1
)(Fe
3+
2
Mg
 
3
)Si
 
8
O
 
22
(OH)
 
2
9.DE.25Dellaventuraite
NaNa
 
2
(MgMn
3+
2
LiTi
4+
 
)Si
 
8
O
 
22
O
 
2
9.DE.25Fluoro-sodicpedrizite
[Na][Li
 
2
][Mg
 
2
Al
 
2
Li][(F,OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Potassicarfvedsonite
[(K,Na)][Na
 
2
][Fe
2+
4
Fe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Fluoro-potassic-magnesio-arfvedsonite
[(K,Na)][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Fe
3+
 
][(F,OH)
 
2
|[Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Sodic-ferri-ferropedrizite
[Na][Li
 
2
][Fe
2+
2
Fe
3+
2
Li][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]
9.DE.25Potassic-magnesio-arfvedsonite
[K][Na
 
2
][Mg
 
4
Fe
3+
 
][(OH)
 
2
|Si
 
8
O
 
22
]

Other Names for Obertiite

Synonyms:
IMA1998-046

Other Information

Fluorescence in UV light:None
Health Warning:No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

References for Obertiite

Reference List:Hawthorne, F. C., Cooper, M.A. Grice, J.D., Ottolini, L., (2000): A new anhydrous amphibole from the Eifel region, Germany: Description and crystal structure of obertiite, NaNa2(Mg3,Fe,Ti)Si8O28O2: American Mineralogist: 85: 236-241.

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    Localities for Obertiite

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    Germany
     
    • Rhineland-Palatinate
      • Eifel Mts
        • Andernach
          • Eich
    		Blass, G., Graf , HW., Neue Mineralienfunde aus der Vulkaneifel, Mineralien-Welt 1/2001
        • Daun
          • Üdersdorf
    		Blass, G.; Graf, H.W., Neue Mineralienfunde aus der Vulkaneifel, Mineralien-Welt 1/2001
        • Mayen
          • Ettringen
    		Am Min 85:235-241 Hawthorne, F. C., Cooper, M.A., Grice, J.D., Ottolini, l. (2000): A new anhydrous amphibole from the Eifel region, Germany: Description and crystal structure of obertiite, Na Na2(Mg3,Fe,Ti)Si8O28O2, American Mineralogist 85, 236-241
        • Niederzissen
          • Burgbrohl
    		Blass, G., Graf, H.W., Kolitsch, U., Neue Funde aus der Vulkaneifel - ein Rückblick auf die Sammelsaison 2002, Mineralien-Welt 13/5, 2003
        • Polch
          • Ochtendung
    		Blass, G., Graf, HW., Kolitsch, U., Sebold, D., Über neue Mineralfunde aus der Vulkaneifel, MW 6/2005
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