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Piemontite

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Formula:
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
2
Mn
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
System:MonoclinicColour:Red, red-violet, ...
Hardness:6 - 6½
Member of:Epidote Group
Name:After the Piemonte region of Italy.


Epidote Group.

"Piemontite" has two different uses: Piemontite (sensu stricto) is the mineral species described here, but more commonly "piemontite" refers incorrectly to deep red colored, Mn3+-bearing epidotes that are really varieties of the species epidote, and not strictly speaking the *species* piemontite. "Piemontites" rarely contain more than 40% of the piemontite molecule, so many "piemontites" in collections (and pictured here in Mindat) are really Mn-rich red varieties of epidote. (See for example: Ashley (1984), Kawachi et al. (1983), and Martin & Lombardo (1995).)

Classification of Piemontite

IMA status:Approved
Strunz 8th edition ID:8/C.23-30
Nickel-Strunz 10th (pending) edition ID:9.BG.05

9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
B : Sorosilicates
G : Sorosilicates with mixed SiO4 and Si2O7 groups; cations in octahedral [6] and greater coordination
Dana 8th edition ID:58.2.1a.11

58 : SOROSILICATES Insular, Mixed, Single, and Larger Tetrahedral Groups
2 : Insular, Mixed, Single, and Larger Tetrahedral Groups with cations in [6] and higher coordination; single and double groups (n = 1, 2)
Hey's CIM Ref.:16.16.22

16 : Silicates Containing Aluminum and other Metals
16 : Aluminosilicates of Mn
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Type Occurrence of Piemontite

Type Locality:Prabornaz Mine (ex Praborna Mine), Saint-Marcel, Aosta Valley, Italy
Year of Discovery:1853

Occurrences of Piemontite

Geological Setting:Greenschist to amphibolite grade regional metamorphism, metasomatised manganese deposits, low temperature hydrothermal veins.

Physical Properties of Piemontite

Lustre:Vitreous
Diaphaneity (Transparency):Translucent, Opaque
Colour:Red, red-violet, red-brown to reddish black
Streak:Reddish
Hardness (Mohs):6 - 6½
Tenacity:Brittle
Cleavage:Perfect
Perfect on {001}
Poor on {100}
Fracture:Irregular/Uneven
Density (measured):3.46 - 3.54 g/cm3
Density (calculated):3.45 g/cm3

Crystallography of Piemontite

Crystal System:Monoclinic
Class (H-M):2/m - Prismatic
Space Group:P21/m {P1 1 21/m} {P21/m} {P1 21/m 1}
Cell Parameters:a = 8.878(10) Å, b = 5.692(5) Å, c = 10.201(10) Å
β = 115.25°
Ratio:a:b:c = 1.56 : 1 : 1.792
Unit Cell Volume:V 466.24 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:2
Morphology:Prismatic, bladed or acicular crystals.
Twinning:{100} uncommon, lamellar

Optical Data of Piemontite

Type:Biaxial (+)
RI values: nα = 1.725 - 1.756 nβ = 1.730 - 1.789 nγ = 1.750 - 1.832
2V:Measured: 50° to 86°, Calculated: 54° to 86°
Maximum Birefringence:δ = 0.025 - 0.076

Chart shows birefringence interference colour range (at 30µm thickness) and does not take into account mineral colouration.
Surface Relief:High
Dispersion:r > v strong
Pleochroism:Visible
Comments:X= light yellow, orange to pink
Y= pale violet to deep lavender
Z= pink to deep red

Chemical Properties of Piemontite

Formula:
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
2
Mn
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Essential elements:Al, Ca, H, Mn, O, Si
All elements listed in formula:Al, Ca, H, Mn, O, Si
Common Impurities:Fe,Ti,Na,K,H2O

Relationship of Piemontite to other Species

Member of:Epidote Group
Other Members of Group:

- +
Allanite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Allanite-(La)
{CaLa}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Allanite-(Nd)
{CaNd}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Allanite-(Y)
{CaY}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Åskagenite-(Nd)
{Mn
2+
 
Nd}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O
 
2
Clinozoisite
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
3
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Clinozoisite-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Al
 
3
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Dissakisite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{Al
 
2
Mg}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Dissakisite-(La)
{CaLa}{Al
 
2
Mg}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Dollaseite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{MgAlMg}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)F
Epidote
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Epidote-(Pb)
{CaPb}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Epidote-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Ferriallanite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{Fe
3+
 
AlFe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Ferriallanite-(La)
{CaLa}{Fe
3+
 
AlFe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Khristovite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{MgAlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)F
Manganiandrosite-(Ce)
{(Mn
2+
 
,Ca)(Ce,REE)}{Mn
3+
 
AlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Manganiandrosite-(La)
{Mn
2+
 
La}{Mn
3+
 
AlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Manganipiemontite-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Mn
3+
 
AlMn
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Mukhinite
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
2
V
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Piemontite-(Pb)
CaPbAl
 
2
Mn
3+
 
[Si
 
2
O
 
7
][SiO
 
4
]O(OH)
Piemontite-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Al
 
2
Mn
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Uedaite-(Ce)
{Mn
2+
 
Ce}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Unnamed (Ca-analogue of Manganiandrosite-(La))
{(Ca,(La,REE),Mn
2+
 
)
 
2
}{(Mn
3+
 
,Fe
3+
 
,Al)Al(Mn
2+
 
,Mg)}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)((Si,Al,As)O
 
4
)O(OH)
Unnamed (Mg-analogue of Ferriallanite-(Ce))
{CaCe}{(Fe
3+
 
,Al)Al(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Unnamed (Mn-analogue of Ferriallanite-(Ce))
{CaCe}{Fe
3+
 
AlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Vanadoandrosite-(Ce)
{Mn
2+
 
Ce}{V
3+
 
AlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Zoisite
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
3
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
Related Minerals - Nickel-Strunz Grouping):

- +
9.BG.05bAllanite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bAllanite-(La)
{CaLa}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bAllanite-(Y)
{CaY}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05aClinozoisite
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
3
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bDissakisite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{Al
 
2
Mg}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Dollaseite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{MgAlMg}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)F
9.BG.05aEpidote
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Epidote-(Pb)
{CaPb}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Khristovite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{MgAlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)F
9.BG.05Mukhinite
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
2
V
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Piemontite-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Al
 
2
Mn
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bManganiandrosite-(La)
{Mn
2+
 
La}{Mn
3+
 
AlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Tawmawite
{Ca
 
2
}{(Al,Fe
3+
 
,Cr)
 
3
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Manganipiemontite-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Mn
3+
 
AlMn
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bFerriallanite-(Ce)
{CaCe}{Fe
3+
 
AlFe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Clinozoisite-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Al
 
3
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Manganiandrosite-(Ce)
{(Mn
2+
 
,Ca)(Ce,REE)}{Mn
3+
 
AlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Dissakisite-(La)
{CaLa}{Al
 
2
Mg}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Vanadoandrosite-(Ce)
{Mn
2+
 
Ce}{V
3+
 
AlMn
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Uedaite-(Ce)
{Mn
2+
 
Ce}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05Epidote-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bAllanite-(Nd)
{CaNd}{Al
 
2
Fe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bFerriallanite-(La)
{CaLa}{Fe
3+
 
AlFe
2+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.05bÅskagenite-(Nd)
{Mn
2+
 
Nd}{Al
 
2
Fe
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O
 
2
9.BG.10Zoisite
{Ca
 
2
}{Al
 
3
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
9.BG.15Macfallite
Ca
 
2
(Mn
3+
 
,Al)
 
3
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
3
9.BG.15Sursassite
Mn
2+
2
Al
 
3
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
3
9.BG.20Julgoldite-(Fe2+)
Ca
 
2
(Fe
2+
 
,Mg)(Fe
3+
 
,Al)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Okhotskite
Ca
 
2
(Mn
2+
 
,Mg)(Mn
3+
 
,Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Pumpellyite-(Fe2+)
Ca
 
2
Fe
2+
 
Al
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Pumpellyite-(Fe3+)
Ca
 
2
(Fe
3+
 
,Mg,Fe
2+
 
)(Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH,O)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Pumpellyite-(Mg)
Ca
 
2
MgAl
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Pumpellyite-(Mn2+)
Ca
 
2
(Mn
2+
 
,Mg)(Al,Mn
3+
 
,Fe
3+
 
)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Shuiskite
Ca
 
2
(Mg,Al)(Cr,Al)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · 2H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Julgoldite-(Fe3+)
Ca
 
2
(Fe
3+
 
,Mg)(Fe
3+
 
,Al)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH,O)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Pumpellyite-(Al)
Ca
 
2
(Al,Fe
2+
 
,Mg)Al
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH,O)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Poppiite
Ca
 
2
(V
3+
 
,Fe
3+
 
,Mg)(V
3+
 
,Al)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH,O)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.20Julgoldite-(Mg)
Ca
 
2
(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)(Fe
3+
 
,Al)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
9.BG.25Ganomalite
Pb
 
9
Ca
 
5
Mn(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)
 
4
(SiO
 
4
)O
9.BG.30Rustumite
Ca
 
10
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
Cl
 
2
9.BG.35Vesuvianite
(Ca,Na,☐)
 
19
(Al,Mg,Fe
3+
 
)
 
13
(☐,B,Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
5
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)
 
4
(SiO
 
4
)
 
10
(OH,F,O)
 
10
9.BG.35Wiluite
Ca
 
19
(Al,Mg)
 
13
(B,☐,Al)
 
5
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)
 
4
(SiO
 
4
)
 
10
(O,OH)
 
10
9.BG.35Manganvesuvianite
Ca
 
19
Mn
3+
 
(Al,Mn
3+
 
,Fe
3+
 
)
 
10
(Mg,Mn
2+
 
)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)
 
4
(SiO
 
4
)
 
10
O(OH)
 
9
9.BG.35Fluorvesuvianite
Ca
 
19
(Al,Mg,Fe
2+
 
)
 
13
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)
 
4
(SiO
 
4
)
 
10
O(F,OH)
 
9
9.BG.40Vyuntspakhkite-(Y)
(Y,Yb)
 
4
Al
 
2.5-1.5
(Si,Al)
 
1.5-2.5
(SiO
 
4
)
 
4
O(OH)
 
7
9.BG.45Dellaite
Ca
 
6
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
9.BG.50Gatelite-(Ce)
CaCe
 
3
Al
 
2
(Al,Mg)(Mg,Fe
2+
 
,Al)(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
(O,F)(OH,O)
 
2
9.BG.55Västmanlandite-(Ce)
Ca(Ce,La)
 
3
Al
 
2
Mg
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
(OH)
 
2
F
Related Minerals - Hey's Index Grouping:

- +
16.16.1Kanonaite
Mn
3+
 
Al(SiO
 
4
)O
16.16.2Spessartine
Mn
2+
3
Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
16.16.3Davreuxite
MnAl
 
6
Si
 
4
O
 
17
(OH)
 
2
16.16.4Sursassite
Mn
2+
2
Al
 
3
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
3
16.16.5Carpholite
Mn
2+
 
Al
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
6
)(OH)
 
4
16.16.6Kellyite
Mn
2+
2
Al(AlSiO
 
5
)(OH)
 
4
16.16.7Pennantite
Mn
2+
5
Al(AlSi
 
3
O
 
10
)(OH)
 
8
16.16.8Akatoreite
(Mn
2+
 
,Fe
2+
 
)
 
9
Al
 
2
(HSi
 
4
O
 
13
)
 
2
(OH)
 
6
16.16.9Ganophyllite
(K,Na,Ca)
 
2
Mn
 
8
(Si,Al)
 
12
(O,OH)
 
32
 · 8H
 
2
O
16.16.10Mangano-arfvedsonite
[Na][Na
 
2
][Mn
2+
4
(Fe
3+
 
)]Si
 
8
O
 
22
(OH)
 
2
16.16.11Masutomilite
(K,Rb)(Li,Mn
3+
 
,Al)
 
3
(AlSi
 
3
O
 
10
)(F,OH)
 
2
16.16.13Howieite
Na(Fe,Mn)
 
10
(Fe,Al)
 
2
Si
 
12
O
 
31
(OH)
 
13
16.16.14Eggletonite
(Na,K,Ca)
 
2
(Mn,Fe)
 
8
(Si,Al)
 
12
O
 
29
(OH)
 
7
 · 11H
 
2
O
16.16.15Bannisterite
Ca
 
0.5
(K,Na)
 
0.5
(Mn,Fe,Zn)
 
10
(Si,Al)
 
16
O
 
38
(OH)
 
8
 · 5.5H
 
2
O
16.16.16Taneyamalite
(Na,Ca)(Mn,Mg,Fe)
 
12
Si
 
12
(O,OH)
 
44
16.16.17Zussmanite
K(Fe,Mg,Mn)
 
13
(Si,Al)
 
18
O
 
42
(OH)
 
14
16.16.18Coombsite
K(Mn,Fe,Mg)
 
13
(Si,Al)
 
18
O
 
42
(OH)
 
14
16.16.19Henritermierite
Ca
 
3
(Mn
3+
 
,Al)
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)
 
2
(OH)
 
4
16.16.20Macfallite
Ca
 
2
(Mn
3+
 
,Al)
 
3
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
3
16.16.21Ottrélite
(Mn
2+
 
,Fe
2+
 
,Mg)Al
 
2
(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)
 
2
16.16.23Okhotskite
Ca
 
2
(Mn
2+
 
,Mg)(Mn
3+
 
,Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
16.16.24Pumpellyite-(Mn2+)
Ca
 
2
(Mn
2+
 
,Mg)(Al,Mn
3+
 
,Fe
3+
 
)
 
2
(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)(OH)
 
2
 · H
 
2
O
16.16.25Piemontite-(Sr)
{CaSr}{Al
 
2
Mn
3+
 
}(Si
 
2
O
 
7
)(SiO
 
4
)O(OH)

Other Names for Piemontite

Synonyms:
Piedmontite
Other Languages:
French:Epidote Manganèsifère
German:Piedmontit
Piemontit
Russian:Пьемонтит
Simplified Chinese:红帘石
Spanish:Piedmontita
Piemontita
Varieties:
Strontian Piemontite

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References for Piemontite

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Short, Allan McIlroy (1933), A chemical and optical study of Piedmontite from Shadow Lake, Madera County, California: American Mineralogist: 18: 493-500.

American Mineralogist (1969): 54: 710-717.

Kawachi et al (1983) Journal of Metamorphic Geology, 1, 353-371.

Ashley, P.M. (1984) Australian Journal of Earth Sciences, 31, 203-216.

Bonazzi, P., Garbarino, C., and Menchetti, S. (1992) Crystal chemistry of piemontites: REE-bearing piemontite from Monte Brugiana, Alpi Apuane, Italy. European Journal of Mineralogy: 4: 23.

Bermanec, V., Armbruster, T., Oberhänsli, R., and Zebec, V. (1994) Crystal chemistry of Pb- and REE-rich piemontite from Nezilovo, macedonia. Schweizerische mineralogische und petrographische Mitteilungen (1994): 74: 321-328.

Bonazzi, P. and Menchetti, S. (1994) Structural variations induced by heat treatment in allanite and REE-bearing piemontite. American Mineralogist: 79: 1176-1184.

Martin & Lombardo (1995) Museo Regionale Di Scienze Naturali, 13, 103-126.

Bonazzi, P., Menchetti, S., and Reinecke, T. (1996) Solid solution between piemontite and androsite-(La), a new mineral of the epidote group from Andros Island, Greece. American Mineralogist: 81: 735-742.

Langer, K., Tillmanns, E., Kersten, M., Almen, H., and Arni, R.K. (2002) The crystal chemistry of Mn3+ in the clino- and orthozoisite structure types, Ca2M3 3+[OH|O|SiO4|Si2O7]: A structural and spectroscopic study of some natural piemontites and "thulites" and their synthetic equivalents. Zeitschrift für Kristallographie: 217: 563-580.

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