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Pyant Gyi mine (Pyan Gyi), Pein-Pyit (Painpyit; Pyan Pyit), Mogok Township, Pyin-Oo-Lwin District, Mandalay Division, Burma (Myanmar)
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Formula:
KNa
 
2
B
 
3
Si
 
12
O
 
30
System:HexagonalColour:Colourless, very pale ...
Hardness:5


Osumilite Group.

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Classification of Poudretteite

IMA status:Approved
Strunz 8th edition ID:8/E.22-10
Nickel-Strunz 10th (pending) edition ID:9.CM.05

9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
C : Cyclosilicates
M : [Si6O18]12- 6-membered double rings (sechser-Doppelringe)
Dana 8th edition ID:63.2.1a.8

63 : CYCLOSILICATES Condensed Rings
2 : Condensed Rings (Milarite - Osumilite group)
Hey's CIM Ref.:17.5.8

17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
5 : Borosilicates
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Type Occurrence of Poudretteite

Type Locality:Poudrette quarry (Demix quarry; Uni-Mix quarry; Desourdy quarry; Carrière Mont Saint-Hilaire), Mont Saint-Hilaire, Rouville RCM, Montérégie, Québec, Canada
Year of Discovery:1987

Physical Properties of Poudretteite

Lustre:Vitreous
Diaphaneity (Transparency):Transparent
Colour:Colourless, very pale pink
Hardness (Mohs):5

Crystallography of Poudretteite

Crystal System:Hexagonal
Cell Parameters:a = 10.23Å, c = 13.48Å
Ratio:a:c = 1 : 1.318
Unit Cell Volume:V 1,221.72 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)

Chemical Properties of Poudretteite

Formula:
KNa
 
2
B
 
3
Si
 
12
O
 
30
Essential elements:B, K, Na, O, Si
All elements listed in formula:B, K, Na, O, Si

Relationship of Poudretteite to other Species

Related Minerals - Nickel-Strunz Grouping):

- +
9.CM.05Armenite
BaCa
 
2
Al
 
6
Si
 
9
O
 
30
 · 2H
 
2
O
9.CM.05Brannockite
(K,Na)□
 
2
Li
 
3
(Sn,Zr,Ti)
 
2
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Chayesite
K(Mg,Fe)
 
4
FeSi
 
12
O
 
30
9.CM.05Darapiosite
KNa
 
2
(Zn,Li)
 
3
(Mn,Zr)
 
2
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Eifelite
KNa
 
3
Mg
 
4
Si
 
12
O
 
30
9.CM.05Merrihueite
(K,Na)
 
2
(Fe,Mg)
 
5
Si
 
12
O
 
30
9.CM.05Milarite
K
 
2
Ca
 
4
Al
 
2
Be
 
4
Si
 
24
O
 
60
 · H
 
2
O
9.CM.05Osumilite-(Mg)
KMg
 
2
Al
 
3
(Al
 
2
Si
 
10
)O
 
30
9.CM.05Osumilite
(K,Na)(Fe
2+
 
,Mg)
 
2
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
3
(Si,Al)
 
12
O
 
30
9.CM.05Roedderite
(Na,K)
 
2
(Mg,Fe)
 
5
Si
 
12
O
 
30
9.CM.05Sogdianite
K(□,Na)
 
2
Li
 
3
(Zr,Fe,Ti)
 
2
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Sugilite
K(Na,□)
 
2
Li
 
3
(Fe,Mn,Al,Zr)
 
2
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Yagiite
(Na,K)
 
3
Mg
 
4
(Al,Mg)
 
6
(Si,Al)
 
24
O
 
60
9.CM.05Berezanskite
K□
 
2
Li
 
3
(Ti,Zr,Sn)
 
2
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Dusmatovite
K(Na,□)
 
2
(Zn,Li)
 
3
(Mn
2+
 
,Y,Zr)
 
2
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Shibkovite
K(□,K,Na)
 
2
Zn
 
3
Ca
 
2
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Almarudite
K(□,Na)
 
2
(Mn
2+
 
,Fe
2+
 
,Mg)
 
2
(Be,Al)
 
3
[Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.05Trattnerite
□(Fe
3+
 
,Mg,Fe
2+
 
)
 
2
(Mg,Fe
2+
 
,Fe
3+
 
)
 
3
(Si
 
12
O
 
30
)
9.CM.05Oftedalite
(Sc,Ca,Mn
2+
 
)
 
2
K[(Be,Al)
 
3
Si
 
12
O
 
30
]
9.CM.10Faizievite
K
 
2
Na(Ca
 
6
Na)Ti
 
4
Li
 
6
[F
 
2
|Si
 
24
O
 
66
]
Related Minerals - Hey's Index Grouping:

- +
17.5.1Manandonite
LiAl
 
4
(BSi
 
3
O
 
10
)(OH)
 
6
17.5.2Reedmergnerite
Na[BSi
 
3
O
 
8
]
17.5.3Searlesite
Na(H
 
2
BSi
 
2
O
 
7
)
17.5.4Olenite
Na(Al
 
3
)Al
 
6
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
O
 
3
(OH)
17.5.5Elbaite
Na(Li
 
1.5
Al
 
1.5
)Al
 
6
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(OH)
 
3
(OH)
17.5.6Kalborsite
K
 
6
Al
 
4
BSi
 
6
O
 
20
(OH)
 
4
Cl
17.5.7Boromuscovite
KAl
 
2
(BSi
 
3
O
 
10
)(OH)
 
2
17.5.9Liddicoatite
Ca(Li
 
2
Al)Al
 
6
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(OH)
 
3
(OH)
17.5.10Datolite
Ca(HBSiO
 
5
)
17.5.11Danburite
CaB
 
2
Si
 
2
O
 
8
17.5.12Howlite
Ca
 
2
B
 
5
SiO
 
9
(OH)
 
5
17.5.13Bakerite
Ca
 
4
(H
 
5
B
 
5
Si
 
3
O
 
20
)
17.5.14Oyelite
Ca
 
10
Si
 
8
B
 
2
O
 
29
 · 12.5H
 
2
O
17.5.15Kornerupine
Mg
 
3
Al
 
6
(Si,Al,B)
 
5
O
 
21
(OH)
17.5.16Harkerite
Ca
 
12
Mg
 
4
Al(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(SiO
 
4
)
 
4
(CO
 
3
)
 
5
 · H
 
2
O
17.5.17Serendibite
(Ca,Na)
 
2
(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)
 
3
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
3
[O
 
2
|(Si,Al,B)
 
6
O
 
18
]
17.5.18Stillwellite-(Ce)
(Ce,La,Ca)BSiO
 
5
17.5.19Tadzhikite-(Ce)
(Ca,Ce)
 
4
(Ce,Y)
 
2
(Ti
4+
 
,Fe
3+
 
,Al)[B
 
4
Si
 
4
O
 
22
](OH)
 
2
17.5.20Melanocerite-(Ce)
(Ce,Ca)
 
5
(Si,B)
 
3
O
 
12
(OH,F) · nH
 
2
O
17.5.21Okanoganite-(Y)
(Na,Ca)
 
3
(Y,Ce)
 
12
Si
 
6
B
 
2
O
 
27
F
 
14
17.5.22Tritomite-(Ce)
(Ce,La,Y,Th)
 
5
(Si,B)
 
3
(O,OH,F)
 
13
17.5.23Tritomite-(Y)
(Y,Ca,La,Fe)
 
5
(Si,B,Al)
 
3
(O,OH,F)
 
13
17.5.24Cappelenite-(Y)
Ba(Y,Ce)
 
6
Si
 
3
B
 
6
O
 
24
F
 
2
17.5.25Dumortierite
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
7
(SiO
 
4
)
 
3
(BO
 
3
)O
 
3
17.5.26Holtite
Al
 
6
(Al,Ta)(SiO
 
4
,SbO
 
4
,AsO
 
4
)
 
3
(BO
 
3
)O
 
3
17.5.27Dravite
Na(Mg
 
3
)Al
 
6
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(OH)
 
3
(OH)
17.5.28 Ferridravite
17.5.29Axinite-(Mg)
Ca
 
2
MgAl
 
2
BSi
 
4
O
 
15
OH
17.5.30Uvite
Ca(Mg
 
3
)MgAl
 
5
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(OH)
 
3
(F/OH)
17.5.31Garrelsite
Ba
 
3
NaSi
 
2
B
 
7
O
 
16
(OH)
 
4
17.5.32Tienshanite
KNa
 
3
Na
 
6
Ca
 
2
Ba
 
6
Mn
 
6
(Ti
4+
 
,Nb)
 
6
B
 
12
Si
 
36
O
 
114
(O,OH,F)
 
11
17.5.33Leucosphenite
BaNa
 
4
Ti
 
2
B
 
2
Si
 
10
O
 
30
17.5.34Taramellite
Ba
 
4
(Fe
3+
 
,Ti,Fe
2+
 
,Mg)
 
4
(B
 
2
Si
 
8
O
 
27
)O
 
2
Cl
 
x
17.5.35Titantaramellite
Ba
 
4
(Ti,Fe
3+
 
,Fe
2+
 
,Mg)
 
4
(B
 
2
Si
 
8
O
 
27
)O
 
2
Cl
 
x
17.5.36Nagashimalite
Ba
 
4
(V,Ti)
 
4
B
 
2
Si
 
8
O
 
27
(O,OH)
 
2
Cl
17.5.37Chromium-dravite
Na(Mg
 
3
)Cr
3+
6
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(OH)
 
3
(OH)
17.5.38Wawayandaite
Ca
 
6
Mn
 
2
BBe
 
9
Si
 
6
O
 
23
(OH,Cl)
 
15
17.5.39Werdingite
(Mg,Fe)
 
2
Al
 
14
Si
 
4
B
 
4
O
 
37
17.5.40Axinite-(Mn)
Ca
 
2
Mn
2+
 
Al
 
2
BSi
 
4
O
 
15
(OH)
17.5.41Axinite
17.5.42Tinzenite
(CaMn
2+
 
)
 
2
Mn
2+
 
Al
 
2
BSi
 
4
O
 
15
(OH)
17.5.44Schorl
Na(Fe
2+
3
)Al
 
6
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(OH)
 
3
(OH)
17.5.45Fluor-buergerite
Na(Fe
3+
3
)Al
 
6
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
O
 
3
F
17.5.46Feruvite
Ca(Fe
2+
 
)
 
3
MgAl
 
5
(Si
 
6
O
 
18
)(BO
 
3
)
 
3
(OH)
 
3
(OH)
17.5.47Axinite-(Fe)
Ca
 
2
Fe
2+
 
Al
 
2
BSi
 
4
O
 
15
OH
17.5.48Homilite
Ca
 
2
(Fe
2+
 
,Mg)B
 
2
Si
 
2
O
 
10
17.5.49Grandidierite
(Mg,Fe
2+
 
)(Al,Fe
3+
 
)
 
3
(SiO
 
4
)(BO
 
3
)O
 
2
17.5.50Hyalotekite
(Ba,Pb,Ca,K)
 
6
(B,Si,Al)
 
2
(Si,Be)
 
10
O
 
28
(F,Cl)
17.5.51Hellandite-(Y)
(Ca,Y)
 
6
(Al,Fe
3+
 
)Si
 
4
B
 
4
O
 
20
(OH)
 
4

Other Names for Poudretteite

Synonyms:
IMA1986-028
Other Languages:
German:Poudretteit
Russian:Пудреттит
Simplified Chinese:硼碱大隅石
Spanish:Poudretteita

Other Information

Health Warning:No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

References for Poudretteite

Reference List:

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GRICE, J.D., ERCIT, T.S., VAN VELTHUIZEN, J., and DUNN, P.J. (1987) Poudretteite KNa2B3Si12O30, a new member of the osumilite group from Mont Saint Hilaire, Quebec. Canadian Mineralogist, 25, 763 766.
SMITH, C.P., BOSSHART, G., GRAESER, S., HÄNNI, H., GÜNTHER, D., HAMETNER, K., and GÜBELIN, E.J. (2003) Poudretteite: a rare gem species from the Mogok Valley. Gems & Gemology, Spring 2003, 24-31.
Grew, E.S., and Anovitz, L.M. (1996) BORON: Mineralogy, Petrology and Geochemistry, second edition, as revised (2002).

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    • Localities for Poudretteite

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    Burma (Myanmar)
     
    • Mandalay Division
      • Pyin-Oo-Lwin District
    		Gems & Gemology, Spring 2003: 24-31.; SXRD and EDS-analysed, Franz Neuhold, Vienna
          • Kyatpyin North
    		Ted Themelis (2008) Gems & mines of Mogok
          • Mogok Valley
    		Themelis, Ted, 2008, Gems and Mines of Mogok.; Ted Themelis (2008) Gems & mines of Mogok
          • Pein-Pyit (Painpyit; Pyan Pyit)
    		California Institute of Technology collection
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    • Québec
      • Montérégie
        • Rouville RCM
          • Mont Saint-Hilaire
    		Grice, J.D., Ercit, T.S., VanVelthuizen, J. and Dunn, P.J. (1987), Poudretteite KNaB3Si12O30, a new member of the osumilite group from Mont Saint-Hilaire, Quebec. Canadian Mineralogist: 25: 763-766.
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