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Taylor Pit (Lot 13; Con. XIV), Madoc, Huntingdon Township, Hastings Co., Ontario, Canada
© 2008, J. Weissman

Formula:
Pb
 
2
(Sb,As)
 
2
S
 
5
System:OrthorhombicColour:Steel-gray
Hardness:3½ - 4
Name:Named after R.W. van der Veen, metallographer.


Sartorite Group

Classification of Veenite

IMA status:Approved 1966
Strunz 8th edition ID:2/E.18-20
Nickel-Strunz 10th (pending) edition ID:2.HC.05d

2 : SULFIDES and SULFOSALTS (sulfides, selenides, tellurides; arsenides, antimonides, bismuthides; sulfarsenites, sulfantimonites, sulfbismuthites, etc.)
H : Sulfosalts of SnS archetype
C : With only Pb
Dana 8th edition ID:3.5.9.2

3 : SULFOSALTS
5 : 2.5 < ø < 3
Hey's CIM Ref.:5.6.20

5 : Sulphosalts - Sulpharsenites and Sulphobismuthites (those containing Sn, Ge,or V are in Section 6)
6 : Sulpharsenites etc. of Pb alone
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Type Occurrence of Veenite

Type Locality:Taylor Pit (Lot 13; Con. XIV), Madoc, Huntingdon Township, Hastings Co., Ontario, Canada
Year of Discovery:1967

Physical Properties of Veenite

Lustre:Metallic
Diaphaneity (Transparency):Opaque
Colour:Steel-gray
Streak:Black with weak brown tint
Hardness (Mohs):3½ - 4

Crystallography of Veenite

Crystal System:Orthorhombic
Cell Parameters:a = 4.22Å, b = 26.2Å, c = 7.9Å
Ratio:a:b:c = 0.161 : 1 : 0.302
Unit Cell Volume:V 873.46 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)

Chemical Properties of Veenite

Formula:
Pb
 
2
(Sb,As)
 
2
S
 
5
Essential elements:Pb, S, Sb
All elements listed in formula:As, Pb, S, Sb

Relationship of Veenite to other Species

Related Minerals - Nickel-Strunz Grouping):

- +
2.HC.05bBaumhauerite-2a
Pb
 
11
Ag(As,Sb)
 
18
S
 
36
2.HC.05bBaumhauerite
Pb
 
3
As
 
4
S
 
9
2.HC.05eChabournéite
Tl
 
21-x
Pb
 
2x
(Sb,As)
 
91-x
S
 
147
 (x = 0-17.5)
2.HC.05dDufrénoysite
Pb
 
2
As
 
2
S
 
5
2.HC.05aGuettardite
Pb(Sb,As)
 
2
S
 
4
2.HC.05cLiveingite
Pb
 
9
As
 
13
S
 
28
2.HC.05fParapierrotite
Tl(Sb,As)
 
5
S
 
8
2.HC.05fPierrotite
Tl
 
2
Sb
 
6
As
 
4
S
 
16
2.HC.05dRathite
Pb
 
8
Pb
 
4-x
(Tl
 
2
As
 
2
)
 
x
(Ag
 
2
As
 
2
)As
 
16
S
 
40
2.HC.05aSartorite
PbAs
 
2
S
 
4
2.HC.05aTwinnite
Pb(Sb,As)
 
2
S
 
4
2.HC.05gMarumoite
Pb
 
32
As
 
40
S
 
92
2.HC.10aFülöppite
Pb
 
3
Sb
 
8
S
 
15
2.HC.10cHeteromorphite
Pb
 
7
Sb
 
8
S
 
19
2.HC.10bPlagionite
Pb
 
5
Sb
 
8
S
 
17
2.HC.10dRayite
Pb
 
8
(Ag,Tl)
 
2
Sb
 
8
S
 
21
2.HC.10dSemseyite
Pb
 
9
Sb
 
8
S
 
21
2.HC.15Boulangerite
Pb
 
5
Sb
 
4
S
 
11
2.HC.15Falkmanite
Pb
 
5.4
Sb
 
3.6
S
 
11
2.HC.15Plumosite
2.HC.20Robinsonite
Pb
 
4
Sb
 
6
S
 
13
2.HC.25Moëloite
Pb
 
6
Sb
 
6
S
 
14
(S
 
3
)
2.HC.30Dadsonite
Pb
 
23
Sb
 
25
S
 
60
Cl
2.HC.35Owyheeite
Ag
 
3+x
Pb
 
10-2x
Sb
 
11+x
S
 
28
, -0.13 < x > +0.20
2.HC.35Zoubekite
AgPb
 
4
Sb
 
4
S
 
10
Related Minerals - Hey's Index Grouping:

- +
5.6.1Sartorite
PbAs
 
2
S
 
4
5.6.2Dufrénoysite
Pb
 
2
As
 
2
S
 
5
5.6.3Liveingite
Pb
 
9
As
 
13
S
 
28
5.6.4Baumhauerite
Pb
 
3
As
 
4
S
 
9
5.6.5Gratonite
Pb
 
9
As
 
4
S
 
15
5.6.6Jordanite
Pb
 
14
(As,Sb)
 
6
S
 
23
5.6.7Fülöppite
Pb
 
3
Sb
 
8
S
 
15
5.6.8Zinkenite
Pb
 
9
Sb
 
22
S
 
42
5.6.9Plagionite
Pb
 
5
Sb
 
8
S
 
17
5.6.10Heteromorphite
Pb
 
7
Sb
 
8
S
 
19
5.6.11Launayite
Pb
 
22
Sb
 
26
S
 
61
5.6.12Playfairite
Pb
 
16
Sb
 
18
S
 
43
5.6.13Semseyite
Pb
 
9
Sb
 
8
S
 
21
5.6.14Madocite
Pb
 
17
Sb
 
16
S
 
41
5.6.15Boulangerite
Pb
 
5
Sb
 
4
S
 
11
5.6.17Robinsonite
Pb
 
4
Sb
 
6
S
 
13
5.6.18Guettardite
Pb(Sb,As)
 
2
S
 
4
5.6.19Twinnite
Pb(Sb,As)
 
2
S
 
4
5.6.21Sorbyite
Pb
 
19
(Sb,As)
 
20
S
 
49
5.6.22Geocronite
Pb
 
14
(Sb,As)
 
6
S
 
23
5.6.23Galenobismutite
PbBi
 
2
S
 
4
5.6.24Cosalite
Pb
 
2
Bi
 
2
S
 
5
5.6.25Cannizzarite
Pb
 
4
Bi
 
6
S
 
13
5.6.26Lillianite
Pb
 
3
Bi
 
2
S
 
6
5.6.27Giessenite
Pb
 
27
Cu
 
2
(Bi,Sb)
 
19
S
 
57
5.6.28 Platynite
5.6.29Xilingolite
Pb
 
3
Bi
 
2
S
 
6
5.6.30Weibullite
Pb
 
5
Bi
 
8
Se
 
7
S
 
11
5.6.31Wittite
Pb
 
9
Bi
 
12
(S,Se)
 
27
5.6.32Kirkiite
Pb
 
10
Bi
 
3
As
 
3
S
 
19
5.6.33Ustarasite
Pb(Bi,Sb)
 
6
S
 
10
 (?)

Other Names for Veenite

Synonyms:
IMA1966-016Stibiodufrenoysite
Other Languages:
German:Stibiodufrenoysit
Veenit
Spanish:Stibiodufrenoysita
Veenita

Other Information

Health Warning:No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

References for Veenite

Reference List:Canadian Mineralogist (1967): 9: 7-24 and 191-213.

American Mineralogist (1968): 53: 1422.

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    Localities for Veenite

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    Bolivia
     
    • Potosí Department
      • Antonio Quijarro Province
    		Econ Geol (1997) 92:623-632
    Canada
     
    • Ontario
      • Hastings Co.
        • Huntingdon Township
          • Madoc
    		http://www.ontariominerals.com; Jambor (1967a) Can. Min. 9, 7-24
    Germany
     
    • Rhineland-Palatinate
      • Eifel Mts
        • Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler
          • Ahrbrück
            • Martinsknipp hill
    		Beyer, H. (1978): Über Haldenfunde aus den Antimonitgängen von Ahrbrück (Eifel)..., Der Aufschluß, 29, 401-408
    Mexico
     
    • Mexico
      • Mun. de Temascaltepec
        • Temascaltepec de González (Temascaltepec)
    		Camprubi, A., Canals, A., Cardellach, E., Prol-Ledesma, R.M., Rivera, R., 2001, The La Guitarra Ag-Au low-sulfidation epithermal deposit, Temascaltepec district, Mexico: vein structure, mineralogy, and sulfide-sulfosalt chemistry. Society of Economic Geologists Special Publication, v. 8, p. 133-158.
    Peru
     
    • Huancavelica Department
      • Tayacaja Province
    		Anthony, Bideaux, Bladh, Nichols: "Handbook of Mineralogy", Vol. 1, 1990
    Romania
     
    • Maramures Co.
      • Baia Mare (Nagybánya)
    		Cook N.J., Damian Gh., New data on "Plumosite" and Other Sulfosalt Minerals from the Herja Vein Deposit, Baia Mare Dist., Romania, Geologica Carphathica, (1997)
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