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1st Changsha Mineral and Gem Show, China 2013

Last Updated: 27th May 2013

By Jolyon & Katya Ralph

The First CGMS (Changsha Mineral and Gem Show), China 2013



The long-awaited First Changsha Mineral and Gem Show has now been and gone - and Katya and I were there (as paid guests of the show organizers) to witness the launch of China's first truly international major mineral event. I know many of you are curious as to how it went.

This was a highly ambitious event. Changsha, capital of Hunan Province, one of the most mineralogically rich areas in China, wanted to put on a mineral and gem show to rival Tucson and Munich in scale - indeed the organizers are calling it "the Tucson of the East", or the "Oriental Tucson Show". But have they done it? Is it even possible? Read on and find out...

The venue


The five-day event took place on two large floors of the impressive Hunan International Conference and Exhibition Center. A professional modern-built venue, first impressions were certainly good.

The first day started with an opening ceremony on a stage outside the venue:

Dignitaries line up at the opening ceremony


There were quite a lot of Chinese dignitaries at the event - but that's not surprising considering who was involved in organizing the show. According to their website, the organizational structure is as follows:

Approved by:
The State Council of the People's Republic of China

Organized by:
The People’s Government of Hunan Province
Ministry of Land and Resources of the People’s Republic of China

Supported by:
National Development and Reform Commission of the People's Republic of China
Ministry of Finance of the People’s Republic of China
Ministry of Commerce of the People’s Republic of China
Ministry of Culture of the People’s Republic of China
Ministry of Education of the People’s Republic of China
General Administration of Customs of the People’s Republic of China
General Administration of Press and Publication of the People’s Republic of China
China Association of Science and Technology
China Council for the Promotion of International Trade

Undertaken by:
Changsha Municipal People’s Government
Department of Land and Resources of Hunan Province
Department of Commerce of Hunan Province
Department of Culture of Hunan Province
Hunan Development and Investment Group Co., Ltd

Co-organized by:
China Association of Museums
China International Culture Communication Center
China Association of Natural Science Museums
Gems & Jewelry Trade Association of China
View Stone Association of China
Development and Reform Commission of Hunan Province
Department of Finance of Hunan Province
Department of Education Hunan Province
Department of Public Security of Hunan Province
Foreign and Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of Hunan Province P.R.China
Information Office of the People’s Government of Hunan Province
Hunan Provincial Administration for Industry and Commerce
Hunan Provincial Bureau of Geology and Mineral Resources
Changsha Customs District of the People’s Republic of China
Hunan Provincial Office of State Administration of Taxation
Hunan Entry-Exit Inspection and Quarantine of the People's Republic of China
Hunan Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs
Hunan Office of State Administration of Foreign Exchange
Hunan Association for Science and Technology
China Council for the Promotion of International Trade Hunan Sub-Council
Hunan TV Station
Hunan Publishing Investment Holding Group
Hunan Daily Newspaper Group
Chamber of Commerce and Industry of Hunan Province

Business cooperated with:
Tucson Gem and Mineral Show Committee
Sainte Marie aux Mines Mayor & Organizer
International Colored Gemstone Association
UBM
The Geological Museum of China
Houston Museum of Natural Science
China Mineral & Gem Co.,Ltd

So, you can get the idea that this show has major political backing in China - and as such failure was certainly NOT an option.

Back to the ceremony. There are a few things any decent Chinese opening ceremony HAS to have:

Music


Lion Dance


Fireworks


It's 9am and time to enter the show. We look back at the crowds being held back by a line of police to control the mad rush to get in.

Quite some crowd. The building in the background is the Police Headquarters.


Katya and I manage to beat most of the crowd into the show and get a good first glimpse of the show. And yes, it looks impressive!

Inside the show.


Two large escalators carried people up to the second floor of the show - the second floor was primarily gem and jewellery dealers (watch for a report on this part of the event on gemdat.org soon).

Another view


Here I am at the show. Katya Ralph photo


For the first time in China a large number of Western dealers were exhibiting at a major mineral event - and a good number of foreign dealers both large and small were attending. Collector's Edge from Colorado, USA, are already highly experienced in the Chinese market, so it was no great surprise to see Bryan Lees and his team here.

The Collector's Edge booth


China has, as you already know, an incredible amount of great quality fluorite. Of course true collectors know that it's the locality that makes the specimen, so would any Chinese buyer be tempted by this fabulous Fluorite from the Denton Mine, Hardin Co, Illinois, USA?

Fluorite, Hardin Co, Illinois, USA


Or what about this Rhodochrosite from the Sweet Home Mine, Colorado, USA

Rhodochrosite


Ah yes, but the Chinese have great Rhodochrosite too.. (You may have seen this piece before here.)

Rhodochrosite - "Empress of China", Wutong Mine, Guangxi, China


Another Collector's Edge specimen - Kunzite from Nuristan, Afghanistan


International mineral dealing partnership Kristalle and Crystal Classics were represented by Wayne, Dona and Lois from Kristalle. Kristalle were one of the many dealers who had their shipments delayed - their minerals did not arrive until 1am on the opening day of the show! They have documented many of the problems they had at the show on their show reports.

Part of Kristalle's booth


More of Kristalle's specimens


Kristalle had three exceptional gold specimens on display which attracted great attention.

One of Kristalle's significant gold specimens.


The Arkenstone also had a prominent large booth at the front of the show.

Rob Lavinsky outside his booth.


In front of The Arkenstone booth they were displaying the enormous Ausrox gold nugget - the largest gold nugget in private ownership, at 748 troy ounces of gold (23.27kg). At bullion value alone that's over $1 million US alone, but of course specimen value is far higher.

The Ausrox nugget


Guarded at all time by police, it attracted a lot of attention


A closer view of the nugget.


Inside the booth, they had a smaller but significant nugget, this is called "The Camel", and weighs 125 troy ounces (3.89kg)

"The Camel" nugget


Banner advertising "The Camel" in Chinese.


Morganite from Minas Gerias, Brazil. The Arkenstone specimen.


The largest booth by a foreign dealer was Minerama from France.

Minerama, France


Bill and Will Larson of Pala Inc. were roaming the show.


Zheng Fine Minerals were the only Chinese mineral dealer with a large booth at the front of the exhibition hall. And unlike many Chinese dealers they seemed to understand the western interest in well-formed smaller specimens, and accurate locality information!

Zheng Fine Minerals


Nice Fluorite with Cassiterite, etc


Stibnite coated with Stibiconite


Scheelite from Xue Bao Ding mine


One thing we learned very quickly was that Chinese tastes in minerals are very, very different to the west. For most buyers, minerals are just objet d'art - information about localities or even mineral species are not especially important, and the one deciding factor on how good something is how big it is. Micro-mounts don't seem to have a strong future in China.

Typical Chinese dealer with big specimens


Curious Aragonite 'Tree' sculpture.


Invariably, these large specimens come with intricately carved wooden bases.

Another mineral sculpture.


Katya with a large stibnite specimen.


It's obvious that there is a big market for 'sculptures' and art objects created from minerals, in China.

Some on a small scale:

Gem minerals!


And some on a much bigger scale:

This is a dinner service, displayed by Stone Age Gifts, on a traditional Chinese round dining table consisting entirely of dishes made from minerals and rocks.

We've seen things like this before at Tucson (notably in the 2009 'Mineral Oddities' display) but this is the first time I've seen a Chinese petrified feast.

The table always drew a big crowd of admirers.

The artist poses with her table of petrified food.


Another view of the table.


Some close-ups of items on the table:

Stone cucumber


Mmmm tasty?


Fresh ammonites!


Chalcedony soup


Roast pork anyone?


A large display - Chenzhou - "The City of Mineral and Crystals across China" contained not only the typical large Chinese display specimens, but also some cabinets of very high quality Chinese minerals - certainly some of the best in the show.

Chenzhou City display of minerals


Large group of calcite crystals


Calcite with pyrite


Fluorite


Gold


Cinnabar


Helvine ('Moonlight Garnet')


Emerald


Interesting Cinnabar


Zhangjiajie World Geological Park had a large promotional display. This national park is not too far away from Changsha (we will visit it next year after the show).

Zhangjiajie World Geological Park display


Scenes from the park were digitally edited to make the floating rock mountains of Pandora in the movie 'Avatar'


Here's a video giving more information about the park:



Hunan Nonferrous Metals Holding Group Co. Ltd was exhibiting at the show - with information about their mines and minerals found there, we retrieved a lot of useful information that will be added to the mindat.org database soon.

Hunan Nonferrous Metals Holding Group Co. Ltd


A large geological cross-section showing the complex geology of one of their deposits.


A display of mineral specimens from their mines.


This display highlighted information about a number of Chinese mining companies, including Hebei Iron & Steel Group Mining Co., Ltd, Xinjiang los Molybdenum Industry Co. Ltd and Hainan mining co., Ltd

Chinese mining company display


A number of Indian dealers had visited the show - and unlike many of the western dealers, they had a roaring trade and at least one of them sold out completely during the show. But they had probably done their homework better and understood what size specimens the Chinese like. Here are two from Superb Minerals.

Superb Minerals Indian zeolites


Large group of apophyllite and stilbite from India


These Russian meteorite dealers had a large selection of meteorites and meteorite slices.

Mineral and Meteorites from Russia


Of particular interest - several samples from the fall of 15th Feb 2013 in Chelyabinsk, Russia.

Chelyabinsk meteorite pieces.


SAS Eldonia had some amazing large (Chinese-size) fossil groups, including this group of very odd ammonites.

Ammonites gone crazy


Wu Shize runs a private mineral museum in Yunnan province with over 5,000 mineral specimens open to the public for free. He has now published a book (in Chinese) on the Gems and Minerals of Yunnan province (we have purchased a copy for the Mindat Library.)

Wu Shize at his booth.


Two of his favourite specimens were on display (not for sale):

Ruby from Yunnan province


Emerald from Yunnan province


His book on Gems and Minerals of Yunnan


The show added some activities such as this gold panning experience primarily aimed at children. Here are two of the many volunteer helpers trying their luck.

Gold panning


The show was home to the world's smallest McDonalds.

You placed your order here, and someone went off to a real McDonalds to get your food.


Zhe Yuan Mineral Stone Co. Ltd. had this large emerald group on matrix.

Emerald on matrix


Suzanne Ekwall had come from Sweden to share a booth with Pu Tsu of The Uncarved Block.
She had these specimens of Native Lead from Sweden for sale.

Native Lead from Sweden


Czech dealers KARP and Phantom, German dealer Jurgen Trom and Russian dealers Axinite PM combined forces with this booth.

KARP etc.


Rogerley Mine fluorite admired in China


A well-lit Illinois fluorite


Konstantin Buslovich was also here with Dioptase from Kazakstan and more.

Does this piece look familiar? We first saw this piece at Tucson in 2008!

Dioptase from Kazakhstan.


We also met old friend Mikhail Ansonov of Russian Minerals

Mikhail Ansonov


Also from Europe: M. Jentsch Mineralien from Germany

Madagascar Aquamarine, M. Jentsch specimens


Showing another practical use of minerals, Hunan Daqiuni Ceramics Art Co. Ltd. were showing their fine kaolinite and the porcelain made using it. Their promotional materials pointed out the two sources of this high quality material - China and the UK (St Austell Region, Cornwall). Of course, there is a reason this form of kaolinite is known as China Clay.

Hunan Daqiuni Ceramics booth


A ball of "china clay" kaolinite


And the finished product. A fine decorative plate.


Fine Art Minerals, specializing in Pakistani and Afghani minerals, had also made the trip to Changsha, and eventually their minerals joined them. But not in time for the first day when most of their displays were empty.

Fine Art Minerals


But what they did have was great. Such as these new complex apatites

Zoned 'faden-like' Apatite


French dealer Barras-Gautier was also a long way from home, bringing some classic specimens

Barras-Gautier booth


Sicilian Sulphur specimen


One Chinese dealer excelled beyond everyone else in finding the absolute biggest. This particular item was 3.7m x 1.6m x 1.2m in size!

Large calcite specimen!


Closer view


Is that one too big? This one is a mere 1.4m x 0.65m x 1.8m. Note the custom wooden base.

More calcite on matrix


"Palm Trees" of Calcite/Aragonite


Huge hunk of Fluorite


This reminds me of something, can't quite figure out what.


On Friday Morning I went to a press conference at the center where Peter Megaw from the Tucson Gem and Mineral Society, hosts of the annual TGMS Show in Tucson, presented a framed TGMS Show Poster to Xu Yunzhao, deputy Party secretary of the CPPCC Hunan Provincial Committee, and read a letter from Diane Braswell (chair of the TGMS Committee) offering their support and best wishes for the CMGS show.

Peter Megaw presenting the poster


We then met up with fellow Europeans, Johannes Keilman from the Munich Mineral Show and Tobi Weiss of Lapis.

Johannes Keilman, Tobi Weiss and Katya Ralph


Shortly after this, I was pulled aside by Chinese dealer Huang Yushun who wanted to show me some things that were not on display. This happens a lot to me at western shows, but this is the first time one of the Chinese dealers has singled me out to see something special. He had a nice suite of Chinese silver minerals, but especially interesting was this Acanthite.

Acanthite from China - Huang Yushun specimen


Alongside the show, the conference room held two days of special conference events - one day of mineral presentations and a one day Fossil Forum.

Presentations in Conference room


A presentation in the Fossil Forum


Whilst on the subject of fossils, great attention was drawn to a complete Archaeopteryx fossil from Bavaria - of which less than a dozen are known. This is the well-known Thermopolis specimen.

Archaeopteryx fossil


And a huge flying reptile, claimed to be a Quetzalcoatlus.

Quetzalcoatlus had a sharper beak - not sure what this is.


Two specimens that had been promoted on every banner and poster for the show were a large tanzanite crystal, called
"The Heart of the Ocean", and a large Gold specimen from California. Sadly it was difficult to get good photos of either.

Tanzanite


Gold


Downstairs, in a partitioned-off area of the car park, was the Main Show of Excellence.

This way to the Main Show of Excellence


And of course you already know what Excellence means in China - it means big.

The Main Show of Excellence


Amethyst from Uruguay - 400 x 215 x 220 cm


Fluorite from Chenzhou, Hunan province - 140 x 40 x 80 cm


Gypsum from Yunnan province - 100 x 130 x 250 cm


Fluorite from Baryte from Jiangxi province - 130 x 40 x 90 cm


Chrysanthemum Stone from Liuyang, Hunan province - 110 x 45 x 180 cm


Gypsum from Yunnan province - 80 x 80 x 220 cm


Red Jasper from Africa - 110 x 80 x 180 cm


Aragonite from Sichuan province - 180 x 80 x 180 cm


Quartz and Fluorite from Fujian province - 90 x 40 x 150 cm


Gypsum from Yunnan province - 180 x 120 x 180 cm


Pyrite from Guangxi province - 70 x 30 x 170 cm


Aventurine from Africa - 80 x 70 x 100 cm


Calcite from Guangxi province - 90 x 50 x 160 cm


Calcite from Chenzhou, Hunan province - 220 x 80 x 180 cm


Fluorite, Calcite from Fujian province - 110 x 60 x 130 cm


Calcite from Hunan province - 200 x 90 x 200 cm


There were not many Chinese dealers with rare minerals at the show, but Zhou Mingliang had samples of Hsianghualite from the type locality Xianghualing Mine, Chenzhou Prefecture, Hunan Province.

Hsianghualite sample


Azhar Gems and Minerals from Pakistan had some nicely terminated aquamarine crystals.

Aquamarine from Pakistan


Also from Pakistan, M. Jalil and M. Rafeeq who run The Gems Hunters own a specimen mine that has been in the Jalil family for three generations. It is producing superb Morganite crystals.

M. Jalil and his Morganite crystals


Close-up of a Morganite


Bao Lai Mineral had this big Fluorite and Arsenopyrite specimen (400kg weight, 120 x 70 cm) from Inner mongolia.

Fluorite and Arsenopyrite


Lan Yu Crystals had this massive Calcite from Hunan province - 120 x 80 x 70 cm

Calcite, again with a great wooden base


They also had this 1.4m wide plate of Sphalerite crystals


Teng Jianping of Natural Cinnabar had cinnabar specimens, loose crystals, carvings and jewellery, including cinnabar crystals set in resin made into bangles.

Before anyone gets too scared, despite many common misconceptions, cinnabar is essentially non-toxic, as long as you don't eat it every day. The only real danger is when you have native mercury associated with the cinnabar ore, but the sulphide of mercury is chemically pretty stable and inert.

Cinnabar items


Boxes of loose Cinnabar crystals


There was plenty more that could be seen when wandering the show. In some cases I was not able to get the full details, so just enjoy the photos (and if anyone has more details I'll update this report):

Some wood carvings were especially creative


Another small amethyst specimen:

Amethyst with wooden carved base


Of course, there were plenty of carvings made with Jade and other Chinese materials. These were part of a larger display on the 2nd floor gem/jewellery exhibits.

A large carving in "chrystanthemum stone"


A carving in jade


The show would not have worked as well as it did without the huge army of young volunteers who helped to keep things running smoothly, including a contingent of students from the nearby University. English-language students became excellent guides and translators for foreign guests, and we had two excellent helpers during our time.

Some of the many volunteers who helped at the show


Of course, we also got some time to explore Changsha - but not enough time.

Right next to the exhibition venue is a theme park called "Window of the World".
Unfortunately on the day we had free time about 75% of the attractions were out of service, so we decided to take photos from outside only.

Window of the World


One of a number of replicas of worldwide sculptures outside the park.


Next door was the "Ice and Snow World" - basically a refrigerated warehouse filled with ice sculptures and a toboggan ride in an ice chute going around the exhibits. Brightly lit with LED lighting, it was cold, colourful and fun.

Ice and Snow World


Yes! It's really ice


Finally, no visit to Changsha is complete without a visit to Orange Island, a long thin island in the Xiang River that flows through the city. At the southern end of the island is an imposing stone statue of Mao Zedong, who began his political career in the city as a young man.

With our translators Shelly and Yi


After visiting the statue, we went with our translators and guides (Shelly and Yue) by quick boat ride across the river to wait to watch the regular firework display. They have a 20 minute display every Saturday night, and with our guide's help we were able to get a prime position to watch and photograph them.

Changsha fireworks


More Changsha fireworks



At the beginning of this article, I said I would explain whether we thought this show was a success or not.

I must say that overall, it was a very impressive and successful show. Some of the foreign dealers may well be disappointed with the volume of sales they did, but more people told me positive stories of their time at the show than negative. I don't think there has ever been an attempt to host such a grand event as a first mineral/gem show anywhere in the world. Established shows such as the Tucson and Munich shows have grown to their position of strength over many years (The Tucson Show celebrates its 60th anniversary next year).

The show was a grand statement from China that they want to take minerals seriously. They are beginning to understand the importance and value of their mineral resources. They are opening literally hundreds of new mineral museums around the country in the next few years, and the demand for minerals from the growing Chinese middle class is increasing.

What is missing at the moment is education. Chinese collectors seem to equate big with best, and although everyone is entitled to their own view about what truly makes a great mineral specimen, we can't help but feel that many people are losing out on the true breadth and beauty of the mineral kingdom by just concentrating on the largest pieces. While I don't believe we'll ever see a thriving micro-mount collector community in China, once more people in China understand minerals, and mineral collecting, as we do in the West, then this show has the potential of being absolutely massive in scope. At least two major western dealers have now opened offices in China - not just to make it easier to buy Chinese material to sell into the west, but increasingly to sell to Chinese customers.

Every first show will have teething problems, and this show had many. Organization seemed erratic - some things were done perfectly, and some quite haphazardly. Many problems can be solved simply by learning from the mistakes of this year. Other problems, such as the complex tax regime that foreign dealers have to deal with, and problems with customs at import and export, are more fundamentally to do with how the Chinese government bodies work and will not be so easy to overcome.

Mindat.org has launched its chinese homepage to coincide with the Changsha show. We also feel that China has an extremely important place in the future of our hobby, and in the future of mineralogy. We hope both through the mindat website and through direct cooperation with the Changsha show in the future that we can help to encourage and grow interest in mineralogy and knowledge of minerals within China.

We look forward with excitement to how this show develops and grows. We certainly hope to be there to report from the Second Changsha Mineral and Gem Show - set for 15th-19th May 2014 - we hope to see you there!

Jolyon and Katya Ralph 25th May 2013

We would like to thank the CMGS for sponsoring our visit to China for the show and for the great support given to us during this trip. In particular we'd like to thank Jessica who was always available to help sort things out for us. And very special thanks have to go to Shelly and Yi our excellent translators and guides throughout the show.




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Comments

Thanks for intriguing report! I was at the Hong Kong but didn't make this one. Your efforts are greatly appreciated and it was a fun read!

Cheers,

Jim

Jim Houran
26th May 2013 3:21am
I also want to thank for this report. I've also been there, and my impressions were similar to yours. One thing you did not mention, the prices of really "normal" specimens of Chinese dealers were sometimes simply crazy (10 to 100! times more than I paid in China before). 30.000 RMB for a good but not too large cinnabar specimen - one can only shake his head.
BTW, the "small amethyst specimen" is from Daye, Hubei Province. I own a smaller one with nearly 9 kg.

Volkmar

Volkmar Stingl
26th May 2013 4:31am
Very nice and comprehensive report, Jolyon.

As I also went to Changsha, I can only say that my impression is a more-or-less balanced mixture between Jolyon's, Mario Pawels' and Crystal Classics' reports and comments.
In general, I can simply say that it was a good and courageous start.

Nonetheless, I am expecting next year's show to be rather poor of westerns. Most likely, the show will recover only if the organizers figure out serious topics such as sales tax (I have read some unacceptable points on the dealers' contracts!!!!), delivery times of specimens, and so on.

In my opinion, the comparison with Munich and/or Tucson is not even close to be sustainable YET.

There is a great potential for this show, we could all see it when there. But in my opinion it will take a few editions (min 2 or 3) before this show obtains its own character and gets in shape.

Chris Mavris
26th May 2013 10:26pm

Thank you for your report Jolyon!
I posted this reply earlier at the "Mineral Shows" messageboard, but because it is strictly related to your article, I found it good to post it here to.

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It was deffinately a experience, the Changsha Show. Things like a main aisle, who was completely blocked by a Indian dealer his wooden crates and empty boxes during the entire show would be unthinkable at the Tucson or Münich Show. I was also impressed by the extensive security regulations at the Convention Center where the show was held, and by the way how a full army of security personnel "cleared" in no time the huge hall after closing time. The 2014 Changsha Show will already be different and less international as it was this year. Because I can hardly imagine that the many foreign dealers, who received their goods from Chinese customs days after the show opened to the public, that they will return again next year after all there headache.

About the specimens who where offered for sale. Most offered specimens where more those larger "decorator style" specimens. But several dealers offered also the more "western style" specimens from small miniature to cabinet size to. Price settings were in general crazy. And the very few real fine specimens that I have seen for sale on and under the tables, were offered at really tremendous high prices. Yes I know, you can always negotiate, but when you start at a price who is sometimes ten to fifteen times higher then the estimated value, then it has not much sense to start negotiating...

For me the first Changsha Show was still a good experience, and I enjoyed my visit there. There were some beautiful designed dealer booths in a spacious hall, among them many from Chinese dealers. But I will remember also the very poor sanitary conditions in the Convention Center. The opposite can be said from the annex hotel facilities, a very convenient place where most of us stayed, and where also the incredible opening banquet in the ballroom was held. It was nice to meet some unexpected friends at the show, and to meet new ones, like Mindat's Ida Chau. We were also able to visit the new Hunan Museum of Geology, who opened last year. And off course, I was also very happy with that one Chinese specimen that I purchased at the show.

The Changsha Show was announced as the "Oriëntal Tucson". But in my humble opinion that was a little to ambitious. I will give it some time and I will go back in a couple off years, because I believe that in the future this show can become a very good source for Chinese specimens. But the local dealers first have to learn that specimens can have a certain value, but that not everything can be sold at skyrocketing prices...

Best regards,
Mario Pauwels


Mario Pauwels
28th May 2013 7:38am
Thank you Jolyon for such a detailed Report... very interesting for those of us who were unable ti make it to the show.It seems to me remarkable how much the organizers were able to achieve the very first year of the show. However it remains it be seen how the show will fare in future. One problem was that many non-chinese dealers had their minerals arriving late due to customs and other issues.

Now that is show is over the organizers may just relax after the hard work. If they do they they will probably relax too long and eventually not be able to correct the problems. I hope they will make corrections starting now when the glory and fiasco are still fresh in mind. I wish them the Best!

John Attard
7th Jun 2013 4:32am
Thanks Ralph for the interesting report and many pictures. I planned to attend the China show together with a fellow dealer specialized in Larimar rough (so no competing materials in the booth). Unfortunately I got sick before and could not do a thing. At the the show in Sainte-Marie last week of course I interviewed the few European dealers about there experiences and heard a lot about merchandise not coming in, getting screwed by customs, overcharging for services like transport of merchandise from the airport to the show place (said $ 1.50/kg) charging for translators $ 100/day (them getting paid $10/day),crappy show cases and so on.
However some dealers got sold out almost completely as I heard, others did not break even and carried a high loss.
I am shure the organizers will do everything to present a much better service to foreign dealers in 2014 and that the Changsha Show will probably become for the Asian market what Munich and Sainte-Marie are for Europe and Tucson for the USA region.

Udo Behner
2nd Jul 2013 8:02am

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