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Chinese siderite and chalcopyrite location

Posted by Anthony Gleckler  
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Anthony Gleckler March 14, 2012 06:03AM
I picked up a nice siderite and chalcopyrite specimen in Tucson this year (see photo), but the location on the specimen card doesn't seem to exist. When I looked around online, I found three other potential locations for what is obviously identical material. Does anyone know where this actually comes out of the ground?

Locations:
1) Huanggang Mine, Hexigten Banner, Ulanhad League (Chifeng Prefecture), Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China
2) Chi Feng Mine, Keshiketeng Qi, ChiFeng city, Inner Mongolia, China
3) DaGuishan mine, Hezhou city, Guangxi province, China
4) GanZiZhou, ShiChuang, China (the location on the specimen card)

Thanks,
Tony
open | download - siderite chalcopyrite tetrahedronite.jpg (147.3 KB)
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Greg Dainty March 14, 2012 07:49AM
Tony
My specimens are labeled,
GANG ZHI ZHOU Mine, SICHUAN, CHINA, this was the local given when they were purchased in China........Greg
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Anthony Gleckler March 16, 2012 06:13AM
Thanks, Greg, I found the following location here on Mindat:

Ganzhizhou Mine, Meigu Co., Liangshan Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan Province, China

No siderite or chalcopyrite noted for that location, though. Do you know if the guy you bought yours from got it from the mine?

Cheers,
Tony
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Trevor Dart March 16, 2012 07:52AM
There is a superb piece on ebay labelled as the Chi Feng Mine, Keshiketeng Qi, ChiFeng city, Inner Mongolia, China, your second choice...
chinese siderite specimen



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/16/2012 07:54AM by Trevor Dart.
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Ibrahim Jameel March 16, 2012 10:58AM
I spoke to a dealer in Tucson who had been buying in Inner Mongolia, he said that they are definitely not from Inner Mongolia, though was unsure from where exactly.

Even if locality information is obtained in China, it could still be wrong unless the specimen was purchased at the mine. It's the same problem in any country that has mineral markets-- specimens get taken to the market and change hands many times in the process... the locality information often gets left behind/ invented/ or distorted to protect sources. In other words, the info may be right but you cant really be sure, yet.

Also, I think your locations #1 and #2 refer to the same location. The "Hexingten Banner" is the old name for Keshiketeng Qi, and I think early on the Huanggang Mines were referred to as the Chifeng Mine... I could be wrong, but I think they are the same place...

ibrahim
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Greg Dainty March 16, 2012 11:35AM
Tony
I think I have made a mistake, in my last post. I saw that the location that your specimen was labeled with, and realized that it was very similar to my siderite chalco ,specimen labels. I must admit that I only very briefly looked at your attached pic.
After having a good look at the ebay pic Trevor posted, I had a good look at your specimen picture. I decided that they are not the same as my specimens, and most likely dont come from the same deposit.
I have attached a couple of pics, and you will see what I mean, the crystal are all sharp chisel shaped, and there is no rounding. Color isn't completely accurate in my pics, they not quiet as green as shown, the crystals are translucent, and the only other mineral on the specimens is chalcopyrite. ....Greg
open | download - SIDERITE1.jpg (78.3 KB)
open | download - SIDERITE2.jpg (75.8 KB)
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Andrea Sansoni June 27, 2012 02:52PM
I submitted a few photos http://www.mindat.org/photo-472980.html of a chinese chalcopyrite/siderite specimen I picked up in S. Marie last week. It is the new material that appeared in Tucson this year and then propagated to other shows. The locality given by the dealer is Ganzizhou, Shichuan, in agreement with previous posts here.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/2013 11:23AM by Andrea Sansoni.
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Peter Haas July 19, 2012 04:09PM
A general note on Chinese localities:
If a "new" locality shows up, you never can be sure about the spelling !!!

For further information, read this:
http://www.mindat.org/mesg-105-246465.html
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Andrea Sansoni October 05, 2012 04:35PM
I see that my chalcopyrite photos have been accepted for the locality Ganzhizhou Mine, Meigu Co., Liangshan Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan Province. On the other hand I have just seen some apparently identical specimen offered online apparently from a completely different locality: DaGuishan mine, Hezhou city, Guangxi prov.
http://www.chenxiaojun.com/CrystalMinerals/SideriteSCXJ1209China.html
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Andrea Sansoni January 15, 2013 11:33AM
The locality for the chinese chalcopyrite on siderite has been confirmed by B. Ottens to be Hezhang Co., Bijie prefecture, Guizhou province, the name of the mine will be disclosed in a few months. I have changed the locality for my photos http://www.mindat.org/photo-472980.html accordingly.
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Andrea Sansoni April 04, 2013 02:49PM
The final locality for the chinese chalcopyrite on siderite has been disclosed by B. Ottens, it is: Kaiwu Mine, Hezhang County, Bijie Prefecture, Guizhou, China
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Peter Haas February 27, 2014 07:33PM
Can somebody provide the Chinese name (not the transliteration) of this locality ?

One possibility to write "Kaiwu Mine" is "开无矿". This is not an actual mine name though. While it transliterates to "Kaiwukuang" and thus may be intepreted as meaning "Kaiwu Mine" (矿 = "Kuang" means "mine", "deposit", "ore" or "mineral"), it really translates to "abandoned mine" ("开无" meaning "not open").

Considering that the references on base metal deposits in the Bijie area date back to at least 1979, and many deposits are of a small to medium size, some of them may be mined out already.
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