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Identity HelpPossible Barlow Diamond Specimen?
14th May 2017 18:45 UTCAurum Williamson
I need some help from the great contributors and experts on this board. I have a few questions about a specimen I just purchased. Here's what I have.
1. A diamond in matrix specimen. The diamond is 8mm X 5mm and the matrix is 64mm X 37mm X 29mm. I did get the diamond tested and it is real. I can even see a carbon cloud under magnification.
2. A mineral tag from F John Barlow that says Diamond, Irkutsk, Siberia, near Lake Baikal, USSR
Now the questions.
1. I tried doing a search for diamonds in this region and I don't see any listed. (I might not be the best researcher though)
2. I looked on the Mineralogical Record website and check on mineral labels from Barlow. They have two listed there and this one looks somewhat like the second one he used in the later years. Is the label authentic?
3. When I look at the diamond under magnification I can see is not perfect. It might be cleaved or just a rough form. Why would a prestigious mineral collector have a reference specimen like this in his collection?
4. Being renowned mineral collector would he ever give such a vague description and location for specimen?
Sorry for asking so much. I hope this is a valid specimen from his collection. I paid $150 for the specimen. The listing for it wasn’t the best so it didn't get the exposure it should have from collectors. If it's not from the Barlow collection at least I have a decent diamond specimen.
Thank you for all your help.
Take care, Keith
14th May 2017 23:06 UTCKelly Nash 🌟 Expert
14th May 2017 23:34 UTCAurum Williamson
That makes sense about the flats. I guess he would only print info that is provided to him.
Thanks for the reply, Keith
14th May 2017 23:55 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager
15th May 2017 01:18 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager
That is one of his labels, but he did sell specimens at some local shows around his home area. I have some of the Sanco lables and I believe they were a bit later then the Barlow Collection ones.
15th May 2017 03:14 UTCGregg Little 🌟
I have two similar diamond in matrix specimens as well but they came from the Mir Pipe about 1,200 km NNE of your local. I did a quick search in the Irkutsk area and there was diamond exploration carried out in the late 40's and 1950's with alluvial diamonds found but no production from any kimberlite. Possibly your sample was from that era of surface exploration. The price you paid seems in line compared to the quality and what I paid for mine at the time from Ward's Scientific. Enjoy them as diamonds in matrix samples are not that common.
16th May 2017 12:50 UTCAurum Williamson
I guess I have a authentic Barlow label with Incorrect info on it. In the trash it goes. Well at least I have a nice specimen.
16th May 2017 13:57 UTCPaul Brandes 🌟 Manager
Even though it has incorrect locality information, it still signifies that it came from John Barlow and may even enhance the value of the specimen in the future, albeit ever so slightly.
16th May 2017 17:47 UTCGregg Little 🌟
I am with Paul so please, definitely do not throw out the label. All this information even if incorrect is important, forensically speaking. Any dealer label is of some value monetarily as well as for the information. IF it is erroneous then it should be cataloged as such and a relabeling done to correct the error. The location information for the Mir Pipe and its mine can be found on the internet by searching for the Mir Mine, aka Mirny Mine.
16th May 2017 18:23 UTCTõnu Pani
And so are as exact as it was given for foreigners. See also Sir Philip Oppenheimer visit to Mir in 1976...
16th May 2017 22:44 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager
16th May 2017 22:50 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager
(sorry, just joking)
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