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Field CollectingDiamond Point, Arizona
19th Feb 2009 01:46 UTCMark & Linda Mahlum
Mark Mahlum
19th Feb 2009 16:36 UTCJoe D.
I believe this area is now private land which the developers swapped other land for this federal land. They were building lots of houses there the last time I was there. The swap took place officially in 2004. There was a nice cow elk that came out on the dirt road infront of me when we were there. It didn't want to leave but finally wondered off. I'm not familiar with teh access to the ridge since they built all the houses. These same Herkimer type Diamonds are available back where the Payson Geodes erode out. Just not as plentiful.
Joe D.
20th Feb 2009 03:30 UTCJim Bean 🌟
I cannot tell you how extensive the area is, nor do I know exactly what area you pinpointed, but I've been shown areas outside the main area that have produced very nice stuff (lots of hard work and not as prolific as what I'm calling the main area). Not sure whether these areas are out of bounds now by FS decree, but I believe they are. Locals I'm sure still pull out decent stuff, and I enjoy what comes out of there enough to revisit the area whenever I get a chance to as an aside to other AZ adventures, even if I end up skunked.
Curiously to this day there are no images here on Mindat of the wonderful quartz from this locality (unless I missed them). I must assume at least some responsibility for that. 8-)
To answer your methodology question, cleaning the tough clayey soil out around any outcrops MIGHT be productive, if you can flip over and/or break up any virgin ledge you can find MAY be productive, there seems to be a certain horizon there but even that is spotty. Also a local with way more experience than me would quite likely laugh at my advice here, but experienced locals don't normally post their secrets on a public forum such as this. ;)
I'll also have to advise against wandering off in the woods there in search of fertile ground unless you're very well experienced in outdoor navigation skills, I know of two instances with people well familiar with the area wandering away just far enough to get lost, one managed to find the road without much issue, the other stumbled into the SAR deploy area after about 5 hrs missing just before SAR began working.
13th Sep 2011 06:10 UTCDK
I spent upwards to a year or a little more hiking miles through the woods finding alot of seperate outcroppings, with fair quality to the crystals and a few crystals that were of some size before finding the place I really wanted to dig! This spot has been a lucky find for me as I have stumbled upon clusters as well as amethysted specimens. What a small area though! You can see why some great spots can be missed when some deposits are only a speck in a large national forest area and that forest ground is covered in dead plant material! I get the feeling that there is alot hidden in those woods and it takes effort to find that place that hasn't been found yet. I also feel that when these quartz were initially found, they were mined to a very large extent and many of the huge specimens have been removed from the land. I saw one beautiful specimen in a crystal store in Sedona that was double terminated and over a foot long! It makes me wonder where they have been taken and why these diamond quartz have been left somewhat unknown to the public as well as crystal and metaphysical book authors and energy workers. It looks like many of the Herkimers have been left overall undisturbed throughout all those millions of years and the Payson diamonds have undergone terrific earthquakes, and earth shifting that crushed them and left them under the ocean a couple times which is apparent by the coral, clams, and other sea fossils there. I also stand to think that these Payson diamonds were not completly done growing when earth changes struck. by looking at the incomplete crystals that are found there it seems some more time was needed to bring alot of the crystals to full size and sharpness in detail and clarity. I have found many incredible crystals, and many still that are out there so know that they are not all gone! If you go and you just want to find something LOOK IN THE DRY WASHES. Its a good place to start. Will you find any worth selling on your trip there? That may take some time and alot of work but you might just want to go for your own pleasure.
16th Jun 2013 19:28 UTCShain
I personally collect as float but have several areas where with the right patience and a slow hammer/chisel. I have worked out goonie pockets with fine crystals still attached to the host.
The unique aspect of the area right around Diamond point is the quartz found there can display a slight Amethyst hue on one or both Terminations. I have only ever seen this from crystals collected near the actual published site near the Lookout tower. Contact the Payson Tonto Ranger station for more details about digging dates at Diamond Point.
Payson Ranger District
1009 E. Hwy 260
Payson, Arizona 85541
(928) 474-7900
16th Jun 2013 21:16 UTCTim Jokela Jr
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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17th Jun 2013 00:39 UTCMatt Neuzil Expert
Tim Jokela Jr Wrote:
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> FOR GODS SAKE WATCH OUT FOR THE VORTEX
> ENERGIES!!!!
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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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17th Jun 2013 00:57 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert
Thanks so much for further clarification on what the area still has (and had) to offer, good stuff to know!
Always appropriate to reopen a thread to add more good information, thanks much!
To Matt,
Tim's response is to the much older post made in 2011 by DK (typical irrelevant "crystal healing" drivel). I also hope Shain doesn't assume it's pointed at him!
MRH
20th Aug 2013 16:26 UTCSarahrose
Theses are some I found just the other day at diamond point outside the actual digging area....I did not dig to find these at all, they were on the surface under the pine needles..:-)) are they actually IN the rock and cone out? Or are they in the clay? I'm just wondering where they originate from?? I read about an area not far from the main digging site that I may go try and find, and I will be bringing someone with and a GPS to ensure nobody gets lost..:-)) it does not show in the photos, but these all are sparkling clear with many rainbows!!! Very beautiful!! Better t ht gold IMO..:-))
20th Aug 2013 23:22 UTCStephen Pegler
I'm in Silverton, Colorado right now and headed for Ouray. Does anybody have any good collecting advice for the San Juans?
Steve
11th May 2014 15:29 UTCRalban
19th Mar 2015 03:49 UTCKaryn
3rd Oct 2015 17:37 UTCJanet
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