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21st Oct 2013 02:31 UTCStephanie Martin

It is real quartz. It has not been proven that Lemurians existed. Much like Atlantis, these are myths, therefore calling it Lemurian is merely wishful thinking. These mythical and metaphysical ideas do not have much credence on a science fact site such as this. Be warned that others may not be tolerant of these beliefs.


regards,

stephanie :-)

21st Oct 2013 02:45 UTCDennis Li

I dont know if it is true for others, but I can only define this as an empirical knowledge. Recently I bought 7 lemurian quartz from ebay, I placed them on my computer desk and really notice at their strait and shapes. It really feels like energy and concentration is rushing towards me, the effect is really strong. Even though I can feel the heated sensation in my ears, the heated minor goosebump in the back and cold hand. My intuition had experience that these pieces had remarkable stimuli inside them.

21st Oct 2013 02:56 UTCStephanie Martin

Dennis,


What you are reporting is subjective, not empirical results. These energies have not been proven to exist by empirical data. If you enjoy your quartz this way that is good for you, but you will have a tough time convincing those who want proof with repeatable, quantifiable, hard empirical data, which the good folks here would like to see.


regards,

stephanie :-)

21st Oct 2013 05:03 UTCDan R. Lynch

Couldn't have said it better myself, Stephanie.

21st Oct 2013 10:16 UTCRock Currier Expert

As far as I know there is no firm definition of what a Lemurian seed crystal is. The only thing they seem to have in common is that the people selling them claim that they are real Lemurian seed crystals and are worth a lot of money. You should ask the sellers for a definition of what a lemurian seed crystal and where did he get his definition of it.

21st Oct 2013 12:18 UTCSpencer Ivan Mather

Lemurian seed crystal, what a load of rubbish, as it is just a normal quartz crystal, and those who pay over the odds for such rubbish names should get a life....


Spencer.

21st Oct 2013 15:06 UTCChester S. Lemanski, Jr.

A quartz crystal of similar size and quality sells for between $1.75 to $5.95; however, if it is a "Lemurian seed crystal" then it sells for $19.95 or more! Ergo, they are sold as "Lemurian seed crystals." I have never planted one so I don't know what they are seeds of. The only special powers they have are whatever a true believer imparts to them.

21st Oct 2013 15:09 UTCSteve Hardinger 🌟 Expert

"Lemurian seed crystals" are what we sell to Lemurs.

21st Oct 2013 15:53 UTCMark Gottlieb

I thought you planted them to grow Lemurs

21st Oct 2013 16:14 UTCDave Owen

To really have this feeling tested blindfold your self have another person ad and remove the crystals. Do it numerous times and record your feeling then compare the results.

21st Oct 2013 16:34 UTCKeith Wood

Unless they are from Madagascar I don't think Lemurs had anything to do with them. However, if you can grow lemurs from them I'd say they're worth $19. Who wouldn't want a pet lemur for under twenty bucks?


Then there are Chia Pets, that aren't really pets, but grow from seeds!

21st Oct 2013 16:43 UTCDoug Daniels

The power inherent in Lemurian seed crystals is the power to increase income to the seller.

21st Oct 2013 16:49 UTCDennis Li

-- moved topic --

21st Oct 2013 21:20 UTCEvan Johnson

As was mentioned, there was a simple experiment mentioned. In the absence of trying to be mocking, do get some "regular" quartz crystals, and lemurian crystals, and have an impartial person randomly switch them. Since this is a "channeling" effect and not direct contact, if you literally put a blind on, it will be half-blinded (not double-blinded as I'd like, but easier to organise). Now, as the crystals are changed, record the measurements of whatever you feel. If you're feeling especially daring, try with other minerals as well. I respect your beliefs, but there is virtually no possibility that they are reconcilable with science.

21st Oct 2013 22:55 UTCSteve Hardinger 🌟 Expert

Evan, as a single-blind experiment, it's still faulty, due to potential basis (even unintentional) from the nonblindfolded participant. To avoid this basis a double blind experiment -- one in which both the 'channeler' (gawd, did I actually type that?) and the crystal scrambler are blindfolded.

22nd Oct 2013 10:49 UTCEvan Johnson

Steve- undoubtedly better, though I did try to account for placebo, Itried to suggest something a bit more practical for the masses. I think collectively we could think of many flavours of this to discredit it from a scientific standpoint.

EMJ

22nd Oct 2013 14:21 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert

Actually why bother with another study to yet again disprove this absurdity?


It has long been debunked and an open forum still exist to prove otherwise. All you need is the willingness to show up. James Randi the founder of the James Randi Educational Foundation, has spent more than 30 years studying claims of the paranormal and pseudo new age science. His foundation still offers it's famed "million dollar challenge": anyone who produces evidence of a supernatural, paranormal or occult power or event will win US $1,000,000. Year after year, the mystics come banging on his door and year after year they fail to produce any evidence of the paranormal.


James Randi invited a Crystal Healer into a TV studio (it's on YouTube, entitled: James Randi Tests Crystal Power and Applied Kinesiology). He set up a test, for the specific purpose of the demonstration of the crystal healers powers. The ‘healer’ failed miserably, to no ones surprise. We all know any perceived "effect" from crystals and the like are self imposed i.e. self-deluded experiences. It is a common effect for us humans and it's seen in any and all our belief systems across the board and across the globe.


Religion . . . it's just another religion. If we insist on treating such things as sacrosanct, above the sharp criticism that this subject really does merit (since despite it's debunking, believers continually refuse to respect these finding) then it has NO place in the realm of scientific discussion or debate, period. It is simply put, NOT a welcome subject here.


MRH

22nd Oct 2013 19:26 UTCKelly Nash 🌟 Expert

I don't know why these discussions so often start out cordial, and then reach a point where someone states that all religion deserves sharp criticism, as if it is absolutely impossible for any scientist to have any religious beliefs. I'm not about to defend crystal healing, but the broad lumping and put-downs, bordering on fundamentalism, sometimes get annoying.

22nd Oct 2013 23:52 UTCDebbie Woolf Manager

Enough said, I think the question has been answered.
 
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