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Techniques for CollectorsTumbling sapphires

7th Jul 2008 15:44 UTCMartin Hall

I have a number (some 500g) of rough sapphires that I'd like to tumble polish, and I'd love to get some advice.


The stones range in size from 1g to 15g. They aren't gem quality (of course!) but they are attractive and crystalline, and I think they would look terrific once polished. I attach an example photo.


I'd like to keep their basic shape, so I suppose a vibratory tumbler would be best? I don't have a tumbler of any kind at the moment, so I would appreciate help in choosing a model. Of course I'll practise on other stones first.


My big question is, what to use as grit? Carborundum's not hard enough; what about boron nitride (borazon)? Where would I get a supply of the stuff in various grades?


For what it's worth, I'm in the UK.


Thanks for any help


Martin

8th Jul 2008 20:59 UTCJohnny

Only thing is harder then sapphire is diamond. Maybe you can try diamond powder may do it.

12th Jul 2008 15:49 UTCTC Reg

Hi Martin,


Borazon would definitely work, your choice would be based on availability and price as compared to diamond. I have no idea what's available in the UK (I'm in the US), but I'm guessing you could easily order either from an online lapidary, tumbling hobby, or jewelry supplier (or even ebay). A tools or machine shop might carry the borazon cheaper than a jewelry store, tho.


As for tumbling, I like to tumble emerald pieces for the same reason you're interested in the sapphires. Certainly not gem quality, but my nieces & nephews think it's the coolest thing in the world to own a real emerald anyway. Unlike most people who tumble stones, tho, I only use the coarsest shaping grits for a day or so. As you mentioned, many of the pieces have a great shape, and the course grits will smooth them out to look like river stones if you leave them running for long. I just leave them in the course grits long enough to remove the bits of matrix and burred edges. On the other hand, I like to run the polishing grits for a very long time, up to three weeks, I find the extra time gives the best polish for the very hard stones.


"The best tumbler" discussion can take on religious fervor, so I'm not going to start that argument again. :) I suggest you search thru the MinDat archives, and check out a site like Rock Tumblers Hobby (www.rocktumblinghobby.com) and read their guides on how to pick a tumbler. (My experience is that cheap ones aren't worth the lower cost.) RTH also has some very good instructions to get you started.


Good luck, let us know how it works out!


TC

12th Jul 2008 17:05 UTCMatt Neuzil Expert

carborundum worked enough to get mine rounded and ready for polish the problem was i only had cerium oxide for polish and it didnt work so right now i got rounded corundums that need polished. I would say that carborundum is fine until you get to finer grits or polish stage.

13th Jul 2008 11:00 UTCRay Hill Expert

doing corundum in a tumbler is a hard thing both on the tumbler and on person doing it , since most media take so very long to make any real grinding and polishing effects on the crystals.. I personally liked the rough xls all the way they looked in the pic...so I wouldn't have tried to change them, but that's just me..if you can afford diamond for the polishing, then it is probably the most effective, but the earlier stages might require a more economical man-made boron nitride or something else that is really hard and take the beating that the corundum will give it. If the diamond polishing stages can be done, then you might want some other items put in the mix to carry the diamond grits to the corundums,like rubber blanks or whatever else the tumbler books recommend .

13th Jul 2008 21:17 UTCTim Jokela Jr

Not many people tumble corundum. If you really want to do it, expect to spend months at it. Why not polish them by hand on a regular cabbing machine or flat lap? Or are they too small?

11th Jan 2020 10:11 UTCmakrant khanna

i also want to tumbling polish my rough diamonds but cant find more details can any buddy help

11th Jan 2020 11:09 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Martin

If this is a serious request then you should enquire from jewellers that send their uncut sapphires to places like Thailand and other Asian countries for cutting and polishing. 

You can find such cutters on the internet - then simply email / phone for costs etc. Some even have downloadable carat prices. For tumbled stones, I'm sure you could get a reasonable deal.

11th Jan 2020 20:21 UTCTravis Hetsler

Tumble-polishing sapphire is a very time consuming and expensive process.  I have done it before using the following rough guide, developed through much trial and error, that you will need to adjust to suit your quantity and size of sapphire stones.

1.  You need a rotary tumbler.  A vibratory tumbler is not aggressive enough to effectively grind sapphire.  You will need a rough grinding barrel and a finish grinding barrel.   Google "Kingsley North rotary tumblers" to see examples.  You would need the three pound tumbler for the 500g you mentioned.

2.  You need to either buy ceramic tumbling media or add more sapphire to get your barrel to 2/3 full for a proper grind. 

3. To prep the sapphire tumble them for one day with clean water filled to just above the level of the stones.  This will remove any attached iron oxides and other minerals, and also lightly round the stones.  Cleaving and chipping are to be expected from weaker stones.  Wash the barrel out and cull any stones that look like they are friable (easily chipped, will have a 'cleaved' appearance around the edges).  These will never polish properly and risk marring the final finish.

4.Tumble with 1/2 cup of ~220# silicon carbide grit for 1-2 weeks. Check the carbide in the bath to make sure it is all ground to a very fine consistency, if not then keep grinding. Your stones will be slightly more rounded but will retain their hexagonal shape. Rinse the stones completely then look for friable stones to discard.

5.  Tumble with 2/3 cup of ~600# silicon carbide grit for 1-2 weeks.  Check the carbide in the bath to make sure it is all ground to a very fine consistency, if not then keep grinding.  Your stones will be slightly more rounded but will retain their hexagonal shape.  Add ceramic tumbling media to get the barrel to 2/3 full. 

6.  Tumble with 1 cup of ~1000# silicon carbide grit for 1-2 weeks. Check the carbide in the bath to make sure it is all ground to a very fine consistency, if not then keep grinding.  Add ceramic tumbling media to get the barrel to 2/3 full.

7.  Here is where the process gets even more expensive.  You need to buy diamond power.  100 carats per pound will be necessary for each of the next grit stages: 1,200#, 3,000#, 8,000#, 14,000#, 50,000#, and 100,000#. 

8.  Thoroughly wash the sapphire and set aside any previously used tumbling media.  You must now add fresh tumbling media to each of the following stages.  Between each diamond grinding stage you must repeat this step.  Diamond does not break down like carbide so it will contaminate each batch of added ceramic media and contaminate the next stage.  Set aside the rough grind barrel and now start using the unused barrel.

9.  Tumble with 300 carat of 1200# diamond powder for three days.  Check the grind to see how quickly the diamond is grinding.  If stones do not have a slightly satiny appearance then keep going.  Usually this stage takes 3-7 days depending on the ratio of diamond to sapphire.

10.  Repeat the above with 3,000#, 8,000#, 14,000#, 50,000# and 100,000#.  After each step the stones should be getting progressively shinier. 

11.  Burnish the stones by adding one shredded bar of dove soap to the barrel full of washed stones and hot water.  Tumble this way for a few hours.  Rinse off and enjoy!

Tips:  

-Never wash the barrel out in a sink between grinds or you will cement your drain lines. 

-Never keep the sapphire sediment under 1/2mm in size as this may be contaminated with diamond grit.  I use a 1/2mm mesh kitchen strainer to place the stones in and thoroughly rinse between each stage of grinding. 

-Thoroughly clean the barrel between grinds.  Use a medium-hard bristle to dislodge any grit between baths.

- After straining the sapphire and washing the barrels, place a dab of soap, the stones, and hot water in the barrel.  Run this for one hour to dislodge any remaining grit.  Even a few grains of diamond will ruin the polish in successive stages.

- Practice, practice, practice, and practice some more.  Knowing how long to keep each grinding stage going, based on your observed level of polish after each step, only comes from running many batches of stones. 

-Only grind stones of the same hardness.  The harder stones will continuously grind down the softer stones and the softer will never polish.

-No stone should ever be larger than 1/3 the width of the barrel and an array of stone sizes ensures proper contact with the stones and grits.

Best of luck in your endeavor.  Feel free to PM me for hints and tips if you do decide to tumble your own sapphire. 


regards,
travis.

 



 
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