A) High quality travenite question. B) And weathering of quartz and chalcedony
3rd Mar 2017 14:55 UTCMichael Harwell
These past rains really did a number on some ugly green or yellow rocks. Red shades. Ect....
I've noticed that the heat will change the colors quickly in the deck.
However, these I left out around Jan 12. It's march 4.
A few frosty nights. But lots lots lots a rain. Temps no higher than 70
It's more the clay type rocks that don't keep a shine. I'm very new to all this but I'm venturing to say the rocks with more silica or higher concentrations don't weather away like this. May fade in color but the ones with less silica seem to weather rather quickly. We do have a higher content if mercury in our air/fog.
Acid rains this past month?
I'm leaving these and a few others out. I won't move them and take pictures somewhat daily.
I love the color of this one when wet and lit up in the sun. Pretty boring dry. porous clay mixture in quartz? Not a lot , if any silica. . (Ameture remember).
I'll put it out and we can watch this one melt away pretty quickly. ( I'm guessing). Light rains hitting now with a cold front passing. and passing showers tomorrow. Probably get an inch plus by tomorrow night. Not the 29 inches we received in January alone. And in a week or two or month we shall see.
Ps. I started noticing stones change color and shape when I first started rock hounding and was collecting big sur jade at willow creek. I found some nice pieces and enjoyed keeping my best one in my pocket. Low and behold it changed lighter. The darker green gave way to a more luminous milky white green. I've done all sorts of experiments with freezing it and putting it in the sun. Then freezing it with different watery concoctions while submerged. I still have a baking glass in my other freezer with a stash of jade and other rocks I put in there about 5 months ago.
I'll put it out and we can watch this one melt away pretty quickly. ( I'm guessing). Light rains hitting now with a cold front passing. and passing showers tomorrow. Probably get an inch plus by tomorrow night. Not the 29 inches we received in January alone. And in a week or two or month we shall see.
Ps. I started noticing stones change color and shape when I first started rock hounding and was collecting big sur jade at willow creek. I found some nice pieces and enjoyed keeping my best one in my pocket. Low and behold it changed lighter. The darker green gave way to a more luminous milky white green. I've done all sorts of experiments with freezing it and putting it in the sun. Then freezing it with different watery concoctions while submerged. I still have a baking glass in my other freezer with a stash of jade and other rocks I put in there about 5 months ago.
Wayne and Ralph, the pieces fall from a bluff. But over time many are buried. as Ralph said, one wet and dry cycle will erode the sandstone. And or leisegang rings.
But just outer layers. One could scrape the surface looking for interesting rings. They are heavy. The longer piece weighs about 35 pounds. So, what and which ones. Then one breaks.
I'm guessing the better pieces are buried. Sealed in from the harsh environment and tightly held together.
However, the pieces I'm showing here where found close to the top of the bluff. I haven't seen a wall of them. But I can find a lot of the grey materiel that is not sandstone. Overtime the sandstone weathers and leaves behind strips and pieces of it. Very Small fragments of ringed sandstone are present along with it. Someone said it was high quality something. What is the grey materiel?
Ralph, I'm sure what I've found is very similar to what you referenced. When I put the pictures on beach and stream colllecting it was correctly identified as "wonderstone".
However, can you explain leisegang rings and there connection to sandstone.
Why did I post it in beach and stream collecting? It is the outer edge of an ancient sea bed . Sand hills are left and the area is quite diverse. Very fine sand used in glass making is quarryed in another section of the sand hills. And, it's the kiddy section of this site. Lol. The daycare center......
So, is this leisegang ringed sandstone part of the sand and the processes of 12 million years ? Or is it coming from from the walls "holding" the sand hills.
One can find megdaolon teeth. I'm sure to find one soon.....:)
Recent record breaking rains have completely altered the land revealing walls of sand dollars. Massive block. I guess I found the right elevation where they were left. But up behind or in the sand itself is the wonderstone?
But just outer layers. One could scrape the surface looking for interesting rings. They are heavy. The longer piece weighs about 35 pounds. So, what and which ones. Then one breaks.
I'm guessing the better pieces are buried. Sealed in from the harsh environment and tightly held together.
However, the pieces I'm showing here where found close to the top of the bluff. I haven't seen a wall of them. But I can find a lot of the grey materiel that is not sandstone. Overtime the sandstone weathers and leaves behind strips and pieces of it. Very Small fragments of ringed sandstone are present along with it. Someone said it was high quality something. What is the grey materiel?
Ralph, I'm sure what I've found is very similar to what you referenced. When I put the pictures on beach and stream colllecting it was correctly identified as "wonderstone".
However, can you explain leisegang rings and there connection to sandstone.
Why did I post it in beach and stream collecting? It is the outer edge of an ancient sea bed . Sand hills are left and the area is quite diverse. Very fine sand used in glass making is quarryed in another section of the sand hills. And, it's the kiddy section of this site. Lol. The daycare center......
So, is this leisegang ringed sandstone part of the sand and the processes of 12 million years ? Or is it coming from from the walls "holding" the sand hills.
One can find megdaolon teeth. I'm sure to find one soon.....:)
Recent record breaking rains have completely altered the land revealing walls of sand dollars. Massive block. I guess I found the right elevation where they were left. But up behind or in the sand itself is the wonderstone?
More woberstone and or leisegang rings with sandstone. Weighs about 100 pounds. I got it down about 600 feet and one mile before 30 percent of the end broke. Big bummer. But I still managed to get the rest back anther 3.5 miles to my car. Lots of sand dollars too.
Do leisegang rings have anything to do with the process of agate formation or the banding that occurs with agates and others?
Any leisegang experts out there? Ps......I found the source. But even with that I can see the eons and eons of tiny fragmented remains all over. So??? Let's say I found fresh - er stones.
Do leisegang rings have anything to do with the process of agate formation or the banding that occurs with agates and others?
Any leisegang experts out there? Ps......I found the source. But even with that I can see the eons and eons of tiny fragmented remains all over. So??? Let's say I found fresh - er stones.
Erik, I believe you are are right on, the cement ect...will weather faster. In my case it's weathering in months sometimes weeks.
From my observations. Weathering occurs at different rates. Initially when a stone lime these is finally exposed to air cold heat sun ect...the cement ect will weather quickly. Some of these cements hav color. After the initial weathering the rest of the material like quartz and silica take your millions of years ect....
I have a picture with me...not at home but vacation. Most of the rocks weather into this. It could be completely translucent or transparent. Yellow or white. Could have a white frosting covers the clear translucency. I'll post those pics later. But I'm finding all sorts of partially weathered stones and then the ones I have at home are doing it. I'll show the pics of rocks I laid out a few weeks ago. They have " melted". Revealing shells and one is revealing a pink rock/ mineral.
But, what is the core of these.
Silica?
I thought when I collected these early on the were a moonstone of sorts. Then quartz but now it's a silica of sorts........? How can I tell what kind of silica or concentrations.
I'll try seeing if it scratches later. On vacation with wife and I can since her frustration with my " rock hounding" time away from her.........til later.
From my observations. Weathering occurs at different rates. Initially when a stone lime these is finally exposed to air cold heat sun ect...the cement ect will weather quickly. Some of these cements hav color. After the initial weathering the rest of the material like quartz and silica take your millions of years ect....
I have a picture with me...not at home but vacation. Most of the rocks weather into this. It could be completely translucent or transparent. Yellow or white. Could have a white frosting covers the clear translucency. I'll post those pics later. But I'm finding all sorts of partially weathered stones and then the ones I have at home are doing it. I'll show the pics of rocks I laid out a few weeks ago. They have " melted". Revealing shells and one is revealing a pink rock/ mineral.
But, what is the core of these.
Silica?
I thought when I collected these early on the were a moonstone of sorts. Then quartz but now it's a silica of sorts........? How can I tell what kind of silica or concentrations.
I'll try seeing if it scratches later. On vacation with wife and I can since her frustration with my " rock hounding" time away from her.........til later.
