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GeneralStoring beach stream bed rolled quartz varieties from dehydrating
17th Jul 2017 18:38 UTCMichael Harwell
I don't want them to dehydrate and darken in color. I'm sure the jasper is good and others but it's all mixed up and there is a lot of quartz varieties. I'd like to ensure they remain in their current state of color.
Could it do any harm? Obviously I would use purified water with no added chemical such as public city water from our faucets.
FYI: Freezing rocks in mineral oil /water. and respecting the process keeps a shine to them. Freeze put in sun for a few weeks back in freezer with more water and oil. Not sure how much to do this as I just did some weird experiments and some of these rocks have kept their shine. Some now for almost a year. Or more.
Doing a mycelium and beach rolled quartz and other beach strewn pebbles currently. Using a mushroom extract from the store. Mycelium invades all parts of the large vase creating a web of something. Then heat ect put it dormant. Curious what comes from it this fall and winter.
17th Jul 2017 18:55 UTCBob Harman
17th Jul 2017 20:44 UTCMichael Harwell
I'm glad you found value in what you collect and I do enjoy your posts. And yes, I would love to find a priceless "something" but I also find the journey just as or more enjoyable than the destination. in certain times. Going out on isolated beaches at the crack of dawn with no one around and walk, take pictures and collect beautiful or " nice looking" rocks is a great morning in my world. And time is precious so that makes my rock collection to be of great value to myself. And I bet you would be surprised at what I've collected from certain beach locations around the state. One has to wonder off the beaten path to find what I have. In the late 1800 "nice looking" pebbles or , stones from nearby this vicinity, where found in almost every single wealthy home in San Fransisco to the point they stripped the beaches clean. it was one of the most popular destinations for bloomer wearing city folk. They flocked there by the thousands on nice weekends. They sat around at night by lantern showing off their " nice looking" stones. 120-130 years later. Are the pebbles where they were. No. Have they returned? Yes.
Again, I estimate that 10-20 percent of my collection could easily sell if I wanted as individual pieces. Semi precious stuff. I don't live near gold country. So, Rough or made into jewelry. This 10-20 percent would be single pieces of jewelry each selling for 100 up. " if". Again I love collecting. And like you said, it's everywhere. My cost...zero. Zip O.
And some of it is a little better than " nice looking". Should I want to or my daughters wanted to they could make hundreds and hundreds of necklaces and or bracelets of very nice semi precious jewelry. The other 80 percent I could tumble and sell. Like you said....it's everywhere and we see them all the time. Is their a market? Looks Like there is. Could I unde cut everyone. If I wanted. Good thing my cost is zero. Actually I could add a positive because it makes me happy.
I just have to bend down and pick it up. Not buying and reselling. Gonna get rich....no. Have an exciting hobby, keep busy and make people happy? Yes. FYI. I'm hoping one of my girls will find enjoyment in making jewelry. Til then.....keep them in water or leave them dry.
Remember a stone that sold 25 years ago for 10 bucks is now around 80. Estimate.....
17th Jul 2017 21:05 UTCJim Robison
I think you have exactly the right philosophy about your collection. They are what they are, and they have been collected at times giving you great pleasure. Indeed, your collecting times are precious, and my family enjoyed a number of these when we used to go down to the Oregon beaches. Always liked to be there after a storm, when fresh gravels were exposed, and the overlying sand removed. Even found a piece of fossil whale bone on time, and have a full coffee can full of tiny to small agates. We are downsizing, and I hate to just throw the things away, so hoping I can find someone who has a use for them.
As far as selling tumbled stones, these usually are seen at rock shows, are cheap, and imported I am sure by the ton. So you may find that your selling opportunities are limited. And there will be a cost, because you have to buy a tumbler (re-usable) and various grinding and polishing grits which are not re-usable, and you may find your selling opportunities limited.
Does that mean you shouldn't do it? Absolutely not, if you have the money and time, and it gives you pleasure. You might consider joining a local rock club, and you might there find access to a machine you can borrow. And if you have opportunities to give away polished stones, say at a rock show, or other venues, you may find pleasure in doing exactly that. I wouldn't count on even making expenses, but only time would tell that.
And if you stick around Mindat you may find mineral specimens interesting in their own right, even if your opportunities to directly collect them are limited. Again, welcome.
In the meantime, welcome to Mindat. This is mostly a site for mineral collectors as opposed to rock hounds, but I say that cautiously because there are large numbers of mineral field collectors among us, and probably not just a few rock hounds. Many of us got our start there, and still do it from time to time.
17th Jul 2017 21:06 UTCBob Harman
I do not mean to offend you in any way and my reply really had nothing to do with monetary value or selling your findings, but colorful beach pebbles and their ilk are all over place and collected by many including me as a youngster. I spent many a summer picking them up on the beaches of Long Island, NY and many other beaches. Displaying them is all about being colorful pebbles in a liquid used to maximally enhanced their luster.
I see these beach findings simply displayed in water or mineral oil very effectively. That was your original question and that was my simple answer. CHEERS.......BOB
17th Jul 2017 21:07 UTCMichael Harwell
17th Jul 2017 21:14 UTCBob Harman
17th Jul 2017 21:31 UTCMichael Harwell
Ps. I know you were not trying to be insulting and I know there is a preconceived notion amongst your profession that if you can't pin point its origin and it's not gold, diamonds ect then it's not worth the time or have any value. But most of us are simpletons just out rockhounding and having fun. We have to do with what's close to us. It's the thrill of the chase. And I rarely show my nice ones. Only particularly strange ones that draw my attention and I want to learn something. I'd say there is value in " interest" as well. I find them fascinating when they have multiple colors , nice clean smooth glassy feel as well as have translucent or transparent characteristics. And chalcedony alone is a marvel to hold and look at.
Great hobby!
Side note: geological report from the 20s or 30s. Stated that this area south of San Fransisco has the greatest variety of colors and beach pebbles in all of California. To be honest bob, that' was the icing on the cake after I found it. Reading that made my day. Other wise it's boring around here in terms of collecting.
17th Jul 2017 21:53 UTCMichael Harwell
I like the idea of Mosaics , vases, and a small stream bed? Tons of ideas on DYI. But tumbling and selling them........nope. I'll sort the top 20 percent and make beautiful art for myself family and friends. Easier to make a stream bed or lots of mosaics than tumble all that. Again I love being in nature and the thrill of the find. Anticipation!
17th Jul 2017 22:07 UTCMichael Harwell
17th Jul 2017 22:58 UTCDon Swenson
18th Jul 2017 14:34 UTCEd Clopton 🌟 Expert
The reason the beach stones that have attracted your attention were still there to be found is that they consist largely of quartz, which in general is very physically tough and chemically resistant. Otherwise they would not have survived in the surf environment. So stones you have found there are likely not to care whether they are stored wet or dry--already they have spent lots of time in both conditions and are none the worse for it.
As for "value", there's market value (what you can get someone to pay you for it) and sentimental value. We all have specimens that are of minimal market value but of great sentimental value: "I always liked the shape of that one . . . this one I picked up at [place] with [person] just before she died in 1971, turned out to be her last field trip . . . that one, Bobby found in the creek when he was 7 and dragged all the way home because he was sure it had gold in it; he's now an exploration geologist . . ." You don't need to explain that to anybody, unless it's important to you that they understand why you value this or that apparently unremarkable rock.
If you find a particular rock attractive or interesting, then that's what counts. If someone else does, too, then that's a bonus, and you can both enjoy sharing that appreciation in common.
18th Jul 2017 15:04 UTCMichael Harwell
Enjoy the day.
18th Jul 2017 23:30 UTCJim Robison
And I think it safe to say that many of us have spouses who don't 'get it' with our interest. And yes, storing them in the house can cause problems. We bought a house with an extra bedroom just to hold my display cabinet, and specimens, and before that a big pile of boxes. My wife is very tolerant within limits, the limit being the areas I can have things. On the other hand, I let her do her thing with decorative tin boxes, ceramic pitchers, etc. It is a balancing act. There are similar stories throughout Mindat threads. Welcome to the club. A shed, in your case, is a good option. Though eventually you will have to deal with your accumulated stuff (we are currently downsizing at the age of 75 and move to a smaller place). Been there, done that.
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