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GeneralHave you ever heard of the “bone wars”?
22nd Aug 2018 17:00 UTCLarry Maltby Expert
They used every means possible to defeat each other in the quest for bones just short of crimes that would land them in jail. The universities evidently didn’t have the funds to pay for all of their expeditions so each of them funded their projects from their personal fortunes. In the end they were both penniless and discredited for their tactics; however, together they identified 136 new species of dinosaurs.
Below is a photo of Othniel Charles Marsh and his group of assistants taken in 1872 (courtesy of Wikipedia). Marsh is standing at the center with his rock hammer. His assistants also have a lot of hardware none of which is used for digging. All of this gives insight into what field collecting and prospecting was like in the late 1800’s.
22nd Aug 2018 18:56 UTCDana Slaughter 🌟 Expert
22nd Aug 2018 19:25 UTCAndrew Debnam 🌟
Interesting photos Larry
22nd Aug 2018 19:46 UTCDana Slaughter 🌟 Expert
22nd Aug 2018 19:55 UTCLarry Maltby Expert
22nd Aug 2018 20:14 UTCTom Tucker
22nd Aug 2018 20:45 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager
(and there are still a lot of jacketed specimens in the museums basements)
22nd Aug 2018 21:41 UTCBob Harman
23rd Aug 2018 04:40 UTCPeter Megaw 🌟 Manager
Today's academics cant get funding to exacavate (realistically...or anything else,) so they take a Dog in the Manger stance to prevent others from doing so.
Significant discoveries are made regularly in those old jacketed specimens. Given the advances in understanding dinos since C&Ms time...and how tens of new species emerge fromnthe Gobi annually, isn't it time to dig smart...again?
23rd Aug 2018 15:33 UTCTony Albini
In my younger days, my parents brought me to see these magnificent fossils at Yale's Peabody Museum. If you have not done so, the visit is well worth a plane ticket.
23rd Aug 2018 15:59 UTCLarry Maltby Expert
There are still adversarial relationships between paleontologists and also between paleontologists and amateurs. The same thing exists in the field of archeology. The situation is complicated and strong arguments can be made on both sides. Amateurs have made many important discoveries that would have otherwise eroded away. There are many instances where professionals and amateurs have worked well together.
The Larsons were treated badly during the 10 year battle over Tyrannosaurs Sue. Neal Larson’s version of the story can be read starting here:
https://www.bhigr.com/pages/info/info_sue.htm
The good news is that the relationship between professional geologists and mineralogists and amateurs is very good. This is demonstrated over and over again on the Mindat forum where professionals treat amateurs with respect and encourage their participation. Professional geologists and mineralogists also recognize that the commercial collecting of minerals results in the preservation of exquisite specimens that would otherwise be lost. Fortunately there is a legal structure to accomplish this.
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