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23rd Jul 2008 13:38 BSTMartin Stevko Expert

Hello everyone,

I have one old rhodochrosite specimen with Krantz label from Oligerzug, Siegerland, Germany.

I try to found some reference about this locality, but I cannot found any information. Does

anyone know something about this occurence?

Thank you very much!

Best wishes


23rd Jul 2008 14:50 BSTBill Gordon

Could it be Ohligerzug mine (Ohliger Zug mine) ref can be found there.

23rd Jul 2008 14:59 BSTKarel Bal

Hello Martin,

Krantz label is misspelled, it must be: Grube Ohligerzug.

Look at Mindat: Ohligerzug Mine (Ohliger Zug Mine), Biersdorf, Herdorf, Siegerland, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany.

Problem has been solved !



23rd Jul 2008 15:22 BSTMartin Stevko Expert

Thank you very much guys for help and information!!

On one web site I found scheelite with old label

which say: Fünstenberg, Saxony, Germany, but

no reference exist. Have you some idea about

this occurence?

Best wishes


23rd Jul 2008 16:20 BSTBill Gordon

There is a Festenburg Mine

If you cannot find a locality with the first word, ie "Fünstenberg", try the second one, Saxony, and look down the alphabetical list for the nearest spelling and go from there.

23rd Jul 2008 17:46 BSTUwe Kolitsch Manager


23rd Jul 2008 18:20 BSTMartin Stevko Expert


Specimen is labeled as Fünstenberg, Saxony, Germany and is from Philadelphia Academy

collection, but specimen looks like as material from Obri dul in Czech Republic. Here is web

link with specimen:

Best wishes


23rd Jul 2008 20:47 BSTKarel Bal

Hi Martin,

Lets say that Fünstenberg is misspelled and must be Fürstenberg then you can find:

Fürstenberg old historical mining district (polymettalic deposit), Oswaldbachtal by Beierfeld, Erzgebirge, Landkreis Schwarzenberg(District),Sachsen, Germany.

Beierfeld = 50° 33' 33.68" N / 12° 47' 18.11" E Google Earth.

For more information google to: Fürstenberg+Oswaldbachtal and Schaubergwerk"Herkules-Frisch-Glück",Am Fürstenberg (German page).

So I assume that your problem has been solved.



23rd Jul 2008 23:34 BSTPeter Haas Expert


As for administrative divisions, "district" refers to the German "Regierungsbezirk", and "Landkreis" translates to "county" (see also:

Insofar as German localities in the database are concerned, "district" always refers to a mining district (for the mining districts in the Erzgebirge, see the book by Baumann, Kuschka and Seifert).

24th Jul 2008 00:04 BSTKarel Bal

Thanks for the info Peter.



24th Jul 2008 10:35 BSTMartin Stevko Expert

Thank you very much again!

Best wishes


24th Jul 2008 11:00 BSTKarel Bal

No problem at all, you're welcome.


24th Jul 2008 12:29 BSTUwe Kolitsch Manager

The (updated) locality:

24th Jul 2008 13:25 BSTSebastian Möller Expert


Fürstenberg is right for the scheelite specimen, but it's not the locality referred to by Uwe. The scheelite locality often referred to as Fürstenberg is west of that hill and called Kalkschacht (lime shaft), Gelbe Birke Mine, Waschleithe near Schwarzenberg. This locality is quite famous for Fluorite octahedra, Scheelite in xls about 1 cm, Epistilbite and Hemimorphite with Aurichalcite and some Descloizite.


Sebastian Möller

24th Jul 2008 13:56 BSTMartin Stevko Expert

Hello Sebastian,

Thank you very much for your precise information!

Best wishes


24th Jul 2008 20:24 BSTUwe Kolitsch Manager

Kalkschacht added (we only had Gelbe Birke mine so far).
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