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PhotosPetrified Wood - Blue Forest, Eden Valley, Sweetwater Co., Wyoming, USA

12th May 2019 21:17 UTCŁukasz Kruszewski Expert

Opalised Wood

Blue Forest, Eden Valley, Sweetwater County, Wyoming, USA

This image is completely out of focus...............

12th May 2019 22:15 UTCAlix Julien

Hello Łukasz

Yes it is rather out of focus, but for once (it is very rarely the case ^ ^), I do not feel that it is too serious compared to the subject of the photo. It illustrates pretty well what it is.

We must see if it's the only picture or if there is better.

On the other hand if I had not read the legend of the photo I would not have understood what it was.

I confess that I will never think to say that because I hate the blurry photos. As if people did not see it (That's to wonder !?) .. And only god know as there are often ... Whether on Mindat or Ebay or other sites.

I imagine it is due to lack of knowledge and insufficient material. But personally i will take never waste anyone's time with fuzzy photos, surely because I am already aware of that.

See you soon

Alix JULIEN

12th May 2019 23:09 UTCKuba Kornaga

... my pictures often have to show / present what on mindat (in individual pages) what has not been here yet … not everyone stops over the pictures admires them (and God knows what else is doing over them), many people using the site simply need to compare their findings with others ... and they are still missing here !!!

... there is a gallery where the best pictures land - not all of them, there are regular galleries and these user

... and if you like do not like it, do not watch ......

Łukasz ... if you already do such actions / air raids ... it's best to remove half of the photos from mindat (because they are not sharp) and you put only yours in their place …

Too bad nerves, the service went to the dogs.

13th May 2019 00:03 UTCAlix Julien

I understand Kura and I even agree with you.

I myself use Mindat for comparison (and educational). And without all his photos there will be nothing.

I do not have the highest level in photography but there are some photos that are really unreadable times. This is a reality (I do not say that this is the case for yours, I say as a rule). And best is to do what Łukasz did, that is to say, talk about it on the forum and present our opinions.

After, if the photo was validated by Admin is that there is a reason (even if the errors happen :)

See you soon

Alix JULIEN

13th May 2019 01:04 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Not necessarily specifically here but indeed across the site, if a photo is out of focus or poorly composed, and the possibility exists that an improved version can be re-taken (i.e. if the specimen is still in the photographer's possession; if one's equipment, technique or aesthetic has improved... whatever), it is always suggested, although not necessarily required, that the effort is made to upgrade to a better image.

As I noted on another thread recently, the photos people upload here are more than just inventories of their collections... they are pieces of potential scientific value to the greater collector and professional community. That scientific value is markedly increased if the photo is of the best possible quality the photographer can do with the resources he or she has available. Sharp, well-composed photos need not require thousands of dollars of equipment or a degree in photography; they can and indeed are taken by even by amateurs with just a cellphone camera.

13th May 2019 01:49 UTCAlix Julien

Exact Frank,

I have already combine my camera with a simple magnifying glass to have beautiful macro: D

It helps out well and it allows, with a little patience, to do better now :)

I do not have too much money (which in my head was a big problem) but I found a lot of tricks that allow me to do what I envisioned while I thought it was impossible .

Alix JULIEN

13th May 2019 02:34 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert

The real interest of material from this locality is in how well the original organic structure has been visually preserved. I don't actually see other images that really focus on or exemplify this characteristic, so I also see no problem with including that image in the gallery.

13th May 2019 05:24 UTCKuba Kornaga

But this is not just about the picture, and whether or not the specimen in the picture is rare or rarity.

The person claiming to be Łukasz Kruszewski, is notoriously obstructing me from using the Mindat website. It blocks my account after almost every photo thrown. Earlier, without informing me. In this case, it was just that I was correcting my old-yet unacceptable photos-until at some point my access to Mindat was over. I can't even read my private messages from the Mindat mailbox. He got caught up with me. On pages Mindat gives different information than in reality ... To the already existing threads, he adds his only things, to be him and not from other people ... even then he gives the wrong data ... not being ever in place in any concrete location, think that he is right too ... it is paranoia after all

and it can not be that one person would make me such a CHAOS

13th May 2019 06:19 UTCKuba Kornaga

... other pictures are of course also, but I want to show what is most important in the specimen …

13th May 2019 10:28 UTCŁukasz Kruszewski Expert

Ok, great. I agree with you.

13th May 2019 18:15 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Kuba: Łukasz is not a manager and he cannot block your account.

13th May 2019 22:16 UTCŁukasz Kruszewski Expert

Thanks, Uwe. I tried to explain it...

15th May 2019 18:25 UTCGregg Little 🌟

I am not sure why a poor photo attracts so much argument when as stated the photo has to be good (in focus, colour balanced, well lit, adequately described, etc., etc.) to show the important characteristics. Mr. Kornaga's photos clearly are not good (poor focus and reflective glare). Black and white also is a negative as that is even harder to pull-off, but not objectionable if done well. After all colour is one and often the first of the identification characteristics.

As stated above good photos can be made with inexpensive equipment but one has to practice with the subject and the equipment. One of the other critical and less appreciated factors is lighting. I am no professional by any means but, a poor photo is obvious to virtually everyone and useless to a researcher, scientific publication and lay person looking for identification help. This can obviously be seen comparing Mark's image to Kuba's pictures; which one would you put in your publication?

Poor photos cannot be taken as a personal insult. This is a serious mineral site and you have to rise to the occasion. I'll finish my rant with a quote, "Doing the average keeps the average down.".

16th May 2019 05:10 UTCDoug Daniels

Me thinks we need to calm down on this thread.... There was a photo posted, taken by a member (but posted here by another?), that was not a super-quality photo. Some comments after. And other comments by/about another poster. And.... Going back to the first post - brought in by a member of a photo (yes, not great) taken by another member. Did this really have to happen? This is almost like what some of us used to do with posts by the metaphysical folk. The man took a photo (again, not great), and posted it to his site. Why bring it to the messageboard to denigrate it? Heck, I haven't posted any photos, mainly 'cause my digital camera died years ago, and can't afford a new one (even a cheapie), and I don't even have a smart phone to take photos.

Got my flak jacket on.....

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