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IMA 2007-010 = daliranite

Posted by Chris Stanley  
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Chris Stanley September 07, 2009 09:10AM
Monitoring the mineral name on the web via google at last gave a hit on an Iranian website.

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:jnzAcSGHqjMJ:www.ngdir.ir/news/NewsDetail.asp%3FPId%3D24427+%22daliranite%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

The mineral is to be published imminently in Mineralogical Magazine.

As usual I will be happy to supply e-prints.

Chris S
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Marco E. Ciriotti September 07, 2009 11:55AM
Thank you Chris. I am interesting in the print.

m.ciriotti@tin.it
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Chris Stanley September 28, 2009 04:21PM
Hmmmm!!!

Found this locality for ludlockite on mindat. "Zarehehuran, Takap, Takht-e-Suleiman massif, Azerbaijan" with a rruff website reference.

In the forthcoming paper describing daliranite we refer to material now known to be daliranite and collected in the 1970s as having been described as ludlockite at that time. The type locality for daliranite is Zarshouran, Takab, Province of West Azerbaijan, Iran.

Still awaiting e-print.

Chris S
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Rob Woodside September 28, 2009 09:11PM
The only Ludlockite at RRUFF is an unconfirmed Tsumeb sample. So if it was there maybe they pulled it. I looked at the Mindat reference but couldn't copy or paste it. It is to a document and not to a RRUFF sample. Uwe entered it so maybe he can comment.
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Uwe Kolitsch September 29, 2009 03:08PM
I didn't enter anything at least as far as I remember (there is a bug assigning entries to wrong managers).
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Rob Woodside September 29, 2009 03:53PM
Yes there is or at least there was a few years ago. At the time I mentioned it, but thought nothing of it as there were so few of us entering things. Now it is crucial that we keep a good track of things. I'll see if I can track down the RRUFF reference and try to fix this.
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Rob Woodside September 29, 2009 04:19PM
Cute!!! The Mindat entry was made a year ago and the RRUFF reference was to the 2001-2005 Mineral Data Publishing, version 1 page on Ludlockite. (They missed Ludlockite in the Handbook), So I am assuming that the Two localities are the same and will enter the new name as the type locality for Daliranite with a note to this thread etc.

Chris if you send me a copy of the article I'll add it in with the associates etc. Thanks.

rwmw@telus.net
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Gunnar Färber September 29, 2009 04:55PM
Hello,

I own one of this "Ludlockite" from Iran. When I receive the specimen two years ago it was clear for me it can be not Ludlockite (and I known since one year it is this new species). Anywhere the old lable beside say "acquire in 1982 from Dr. Wilke". So far I know Dr. Wilke was on collecting trips in Iran.

Best Regards

Gunnar
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Rob Woodside September 29, 2009 06:09PM
Fixed. Congratulations Gunnar, you are one of the few people who have a Daliranite!!!
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Stephan Wolfsried October 01, 2009 06:04PM

I have also material from the Wilke Trip to Iran in the 80s.
Found some orange hairy material and also some other looking like Wakabayashilite, all with Orpiment and Getchellite, from Zareshuran.
Can that also be Daliranite?

Stephan



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2009 06:05PM by Stephan Wolfsried.
open | download - UM ev Daliranit Zareshuran 1 (2).jpg (164.5 KB)
open | download - UM ev Daliranit Zareshuran 2 (2).jpg (243.7 KB)
open | download - UM ev Daliranit Zareshuran 3 (2).jpg (254.6 KB)
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Rob Woodside October 01, 2009 08:25PM
Wakabayashilite should be more yellow, but there are some pretty orange photos, like yours, of Wakabayashilite from Jas Roux and Krygistan posted here.
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Frank Keutsch October 01, 2009 09:00PM
Visually mine (I checked chemistry on them) look very much like the first two photographs-very fibrous. I will try taking a photograph but I am pretty terrible at that. EDS will definitely tell what it is...

Frank
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laleh October 31, 2009 08:33PM
dear sir
Daliranite is made from pb , ag , as
all of these are kind of metal.am i right?
now how can find Daliranite ? in which way of geophysic exploration?
can we use magnetomery?
laleh
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Chester S. Lemanski, Jr. November 01, 2009 03:57AM
Laleh,

This mineral occurs in very small amounts. Discovery of new material would be by close observation (chance).
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Timothy Greenland November 01, 2009 10:12AM
I have a tiny piece from type material given me by RSW Braithwaite last year. The photos are taken at approx x20 and x100 using my old Beck binocular with an EM-130M scope camera and are stacks from 10 and 5 photos respectively assembled with Combine ZP. They are not as good as I would like, but they give an idea...

Good hunting to all

Tim
open | download - Dalstack.jpg (164.6 KB)
open | download - DalHPstack.jpg (114.2 KB)
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Stephan Wolfsried December 12, 2009 12:56PM
Chris,

yes please!
My mail adress is stephan.wolfsried at t-online.de

Thank You so much!


Stephan
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Marco E. Ciriotti December 12, 2009 01:47PM
Done, Stephan.
Ciao. Marco
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Uwe Kolitsch January 08, 2010 04:50PM
Photo and brief description of daliranite on the German online science magazine "scinexx":
http://www.scinexx.de/galerie-374-1.html
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Robert Meyer January 08, 2010 08:35PM
Chris,

Could you send me a copy too?

Thanks,
Bob Meyer
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