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Mineralogical ClassificationIMA 2007-010 = daliranite

7th Sep 2009 10:10 UTCChris Stanley Expert

Monitoring the mineral name on the web via google at last gave a hit on an Iranian website.

The mineral is to be published imminently in Mineralogical Magazine.

As usual I will be happy to supply e-prints.

Chris S

7th Sep 2009 12:55 UTCMarco E. Ciriotti Manager

Thank you Chris. I am interesting in the print.

28th Sep 2009 17:21 UTCChris Stanley Expert


Found this locality for ludlockite on mindat. "Zarehehuran, Takap, Takht-e-Suleiman massif, Azerbaijan" with a rruff website reference.

In the forthcoming paper describing daliranite we refer to material now known to be daliranite and collected in the 1970s as having been described as ludlockite at that time. The type locality for daliranite is Zarshouran, Takab, Province of West Azerbaijan, Iran.

Still awaiting e-print.

Chris S

28th Sep 2009 22:11 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

The only Ludlockite at RRUFF is an unconfirmed Tsumeb sample. So if it was there maybe they pulled it. I looked at the Mindat reference but couldn't copy or paste it. It is to a document and not to a RRUFF sample. Uwe entered it so maybe he can comment.

29th Sep 2009 16:08 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

I didn't enter anything at least as far as I remember (there is a bug assigning entries to wrong managers).

29th Sep 2009 16:53 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Yes there is or at least there was a few years ago. At the time I mentioned it, but thought nothing of it as there were so few of us entering things. Now it is crucial that we keep a good track of things. I'll see if I can track down the RRUFF reference and try to fix this.

29th Sep 2009 17:19 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Cute!!! The Mindat entry was made a year ago and the RRUFF reference was to the 2001-2005 Mineral Data Publishing, version 1 page on Ludlockite. (They missed Ludlockite in the Handbook), So I am assuming that the Two localities are the same and will enter the new name as the type locality for Daliranite with a note to this thread etc.

Chris if you send me a copy of the article I'll add it in with the associates etc. Thanks.

29th Sep 2009 17:55 UTCGunnar Färber


I own one of this "Ludlockite" from Iran. When I receive the specimen two years ago it was clear for me it can be not Ludlockite (and I known since one year it is this new species). Anywhere the old lable beside say "acquire in 1982 from Dr. Wilke". So far I know Dr. Wilke was on collecting trips in Iran.

Best Regards


29th Sep 2009 19:09 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Fixed. Congratulations Gunnar, you are one of the few people who have a Daliranite!!!

1st Oct 2009 19:04 UTCStephan Wolfsried Expert


I have also material from the Wilke Trip to Iran in the 80s.

Found some orange hairy material and also some other looking like Wakabayashilite, all with Orpiment and Getchellite, from Zareshuran.

Can that also be Daliranite?


1st Oct 2009 21:25 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Wakabayashilite should be more yellow, but there are some pretty orange photos, like yours, of Wakabayashilite from Jas Roux and Krygistan posted here.

1st Oct 2009 22:00 UTCFrank Keutsch Expert

Visually mine (I checked chemistry on them) look very much like the first two photographs-very fibrous. I will try taking a photograph but I am pretty terrible at that. EDS will definitely tell what it is...


31st Oct 2009 20:33 UTClaleh

dear sir

Daliranite is made from pb , ag , as

all of these are kind of i right?

now how can find Daliranite ? in which way of geophysic exploration?

can we use magnetomery?


1st Nov 2009 03:57 UTCChester S. Lemanski, Jr.


This mineral occurs in very small amounts. Discovery of new material would be by close observation (chance).

1st Nov 2009 10:12 UTCTimothy Greenland

I have a tiny piece from type material given me by RSW Braithwaite last year. The photos are taken at approx x20 and x100 using my old Beck binocular with an EM-130M scope camera and are stacks from 10 and 5 photos respectively assembled with Combine ZP. They are not as good as I would like, but they give an idea...

Good hunting to all


30th Nov 2009 11:50 UTCChris Stanley Expert

Thanks Stuart.

Anyone not on GSW and wanting an e-print pdf please let me know and I'll be happy to oblige.

Best wishes

Chris S

12th Dec 2009 12:56 UTCStephan Wolfsried Expert


yes please!

My mail adress is stephan.wolfsried at

Thank You so much!


12th Dec 2009 13:47 UTCMarco E. Ciriotti Manager

Done, Stephan.

Ciao. Marco

8th Jan 2010 16:50 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Photo and brief description of daliranite on the German online science magazine "scinexx":

8th Jan 2010 20:35 UTCRobert Meyer Manager


Could you send me a copy too?


Bob Meyer
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