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Improving Mindat.orgSame Specimen, Different minID

20th Dec 2018 04:37 GMTWilliam W. Besse Expert

These appear to be the same specimen with different minIDs:

G3T-QXW - https://www.mindat.org/photo-350204.html

UC4-JWL - https://www.mindat.org/photo-197427.html


20th Dec 2018 10:23 GMTPaul De Bondt Manager

Thanks, done.

20th Dec 2018 13:12 GMTRolf Luetcke Expert

I looked at the two links and this has happened a number of times when a specimen changes hands the new owner takes a photo and adds it. I don't know what the rule is on mindat about this but I did see the two photos are done by different people so probably not noticed that the photo was of a specimen was already on mindat. Would be interesting to hear what the rules are here.

20th Dec 2018 13:51 GMTDavid Von Bargen Manager

Photos of the same specimen should just have one minID (the first one on mindat). That is sort of the whole idea behind minIDs - to follow the provenance of the specimen.

26th Dec 2018 20:21 GMTRolf Luetcke Expert

David and Bill,

I was just looking at the spangolite photos on the Bisbee page and the first photo, posted by Jolyon is the same specimen as the photo by Rock Currier a bit farther down. So, what does one do when the one who started mindat has the same specimen as someone else, same piece but two mindat ID numbers. I don't think it is that serious an issue, just different ownership.

26th Dec 2018 22:00 GMTKeith Compton Manager


The minIDs are now the same - looks like someone fixed it


26th Dec 2018 22:06 GMTKnut Eldjarn Manager

David and Paul,

This is not just a problem of specimens changing hands. There are also pictures of the same specimen in museum displays photographed and uploaded by different members - i.e. photos of a large specimen with Onganja Cuprites in the Smithsonian. I have also stumbled on others.

See: https://www.mindat.org/photo-277078.html and https://www.mindat.org/photo-190239.html . To make it extra confusing the last picture includes two different cuprite specimens assigned one minID...


26th Dec 2018 22:21 GMTFrank K. Mazdab Manager

I feel minerals in photos taken from museum or dealer display cases shouldn't even be assigned minIDs, unless it's the museum curator or the dealer (specimen owner) who's doing the uploading. Maybe there needs to be a separate category for those types of photos?

6th Jan 2019 20:54 GMTMichel Gadoury

I believe they are the same specimen with different minIDs:




6th Jan 2019 21:14 GMTMichel Gadoury

And here:



Sorry to add work for managers but I believe this is important.


17th Jan 2019 19:44 GMTKnut Edvard Larsen Manager

Thanks Michael!

All 3Fixed!
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