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General2019 Tucson show observations

18th Feb 2019 22:43 UTCTony Albini

This year at the Tucson shows there were many wonderful specimens with high prices as we saw last year. However, if you had a smaller budget and were willing to attend multiple venues, there were many surprises with reasonable prices. I saw many species in my price range. So there something to be had by everyone. Also, meeting people like Erin Delventhal added to the social gathering at the shows.

18th Feb 2019 22:59 UTCDonald B Peck Expert

Tony, I agree completely.

19th Feb 2019 00:29 UTCErin Delventhal Manager

It was an absolute delight to meet you both!


I’ve argued before (and I’ll keep arguing) that there are ALWAYS reasonable specimens to be found at shows - it just requires some looking! I came home with a number of things I am absolutely delighted with and I am a terribly cheap collector.

19th Feb 2019 01:18 UTCPaul Brandes Manager

One of these days.......

19th Feb 2019 04:52 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

I'm very happy to see this thread, because it's a refreshing change from previous years. For many years, around mid-February, someone starts a thread on Mindat complaining about how greedy capitalist dealers are driving prices to astronomical heights, making Tucson completely unaffordable for normal collectors, discouraging youngsters from entering hobby mineralogy, and basically killing mineral collecting. Sound familiar? Of course, because we see such comments every year at this time of year.


But there is truly nothing new under the sun. Such commentary started around 200 years ago, when Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, famous German writer, lawyer, scientist, mining district administrator, mineral collector, the man in honor of whom goethite is named, complained that mineral dealers were raising their prices so much that they were killing mineralogy!


So it gives me pleasure to read that Tony, Erin, and Donald were all thrilled with the inexpensive specimens they got. Me too - I got several great pieces for 2-figure prices, like a sharp TN steenstrupine crystal from Greenland for $20, and even 1-figure prices, like a miniature of pale blue-green fluorite from Spain that has the most blindingly bright fluorescence I've ever seen in fluorite, for the majestic price of $8.


Yes, there are specimens targeted at billionaire buyers, with prices that look like the dealer's phone number, but there was also plenty of interesting stuff for beginners, and for advanced species or locality collectors with modest budgets. If you are on a budget, don't act like a moth, heading straight for the most brightly lit glass cases. Too many collectors are like moths. High wattage lights don't usually shine on the bargains. Bring your flashlight and poke around in the more dimly lit venues.

19th Feb 2019 10:47 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

It would certainly be nice to have a diagram showing the average income vs. the "average" price (range) of a good display specimen (thumbnail in US and fist-sized in Europe) ...

19th Feb 2019 16:02 UTCAlex Homenuke Expert

One thing I noticed on several occasions was mediocre thumbnail specimens at around double the price of a display quality miniature from the same dealer.

19th Feb 2019 16:54 UTCTony Albini

Alfredo, you are right. The fancy shows at the high end venues with beautifully lit cases and wonderful specimens are for the collectors with an ample budget. These dealers have to recover their costs for this quality of showing their pieces. Nothing wrong with this. If any of us came into a pile of money, we would buy higher priced minerals. I go to these venues to enjoy the beautiful high end pieces. It is the same as going to the museums and it costs nothing to look! I bring a flashlight and 10x lens with me to find the sleepers. Seeing you, Erin and other collector friends of mine at the show is priceless. I hope sometime I get to meet Donald Peck. I had Kevin Czaja of Harvard's Mineralogical and Geological Museum visit this year at my home. Erin, if you have time next year, maybe you can visit.


It is still worth attending the shows. i am happy with what I found and the thrill is in the hunt!


Uwe, regading thumbnail sized specimens, I saw ranges from as low as $10 to a hgh of $2,600 US on one specimen.

The $10 pieces include a cuprite xl from Russia and native iron slice from there to add to my native slements species and a Native Bismuth from Schlema, Germany, #38 mine. Also, found a TN of Turquoise xls from Lynch Station, VA for $35 at the Westward Look. This turquoise has the highest Cu content of any turquoise tested.

Going to multiple venues and "digging for the sleepers" is like field collecting. You never know what you will find.

19th Feb 2019 17:21 UTCBrent Thorne Expert

I spent a good deal of time in the micromineral room set up by the TGMS club. Surprisingly, there were a lot of give-away minerals in the room. A lot of members of the club bring flats of minerals, to the room, for anyone to look at under a microscope, and take with them if they like what they see. They also had several drawers of microminerals for sale at reasonable prices between $1 to $25. I know a lot of you are not into microminerals, but if your budget is restricted, this is really the best option for acquiring some specimens for you collection.

19th Feb 2019 18:13 UTCMichael Sommers

I agree completely, but then again I feel like this every year. More importantly, I always leave without the feeling that I now "have everything I need, so I don't have to come back next year." I was certainly happy that Alfredo had one last box of cherry blossom stones left over from last year! There are several things on my list to look for in 2020. Only ~348 days left to wait.

19th Feb 2019 20:13 UTCGreg Simmons

Well here is a perspective from a first timer... for what it's worth. I was fortunate to have a great guide, Mr. Eric Fritsch, to help me get my bearings, introduce me to some folks, and provide insight into show etiquette. I spent the bulk of my time at the HTCC venue. I found great bargains, some "ok" deals, some "yeah that's a fair price" and some "you must be drunk!" prices. More than anything I think you need to know what you want, at what quality, and at what price. Then hunt, negotiate, and be willing to walk if you must.


I had a long list of the things I wanted to find. I collect mostly cabinet size. I had a budget of $1400. (Need more next year

19th Feb 2019 20:16 UTCGreg Simmons

Shoot... it deleted half my post..

20th Feb 2019 03:03 UTCJim Allen

It's like fishing--every year after the show, I spend the next month thinking about the ones that got away!

21st Feb 2019 18:02 UTCHolger Hartmaier

I came to Tucson at the end of January after having already spent a couple of weeks in Quartzsite. This year, I came with a specific list of minerals I was hoping to find to broaden out my collection and that helped focus the search. I love looking at the high end stuff, just to gain a perspective of what the range of quality is on various minerals, but my budget limits me to seek out the sleepers. As everyone has noted so far, there were definitely bargains and reasonably priced specimens to be found, so don't let anyone discourage you from attending Tucson shows in the future by scaring you about high prices. Having almost 3 weeks to check out out all of the 40 plus shows gave me lots of time to check out what was available as well as meet my FitBit goal of more than 10,000 steps per day! I made a point of attending as many talks as as I could. The Tsumeb forum was great as were the talks at the TGMS. I was impressed by the work being done by amateur collectors regarding specimen mineralogy at various localities. I met a lot of Mindaters at the Mindat gathering organized by Ray Hill (thank you Ray and Jolyon). Nothing like talking about minerals around a crackling fire sipping a glass of wine or a cold beer. It was nice to meet some of the individuals who frequently post on Mindat and put faces to the names. One of my highlights was helping Jolyon, Nathan and Robyn at the Mindat silent auction during the Saturday night TGMS dinner and meeting other members of the TGMS organizing committee. For me, this trip was less about minerals and more about meeting and talking with other collectors. The Tucson show is a world class event, with something for everyone and I think everyone feels welcome there regardless of the size of their wallet.

21st Feb 2019 22:31 UTCLarry Maltby Expert

I thought that I would add a little “flavor” to these comments.


Just like you, Virginia and I often attended the Tucson Show except it was back in the 80’s and 90’s. Being a rather notorious “chow hound”, I always took Virginia to Li'l Abner's Steakhouse out on Silver Bell Road for some mesquite grilled chicken and steak. The last time that we were there was 1997. We sat at the picnic tables outside listening to the Cowboy Singers. In the night sky the Hale – Bopp Comet was putting on a show. As I recall, I went home with four or five new minerals. Hard to forget that one!

23rd Feb 2019 22:51 UTCTony Albini

The first time I went to Tucson when I was on the East Coast was 1995. I did go to Li'l Abner's.

24th Feb 2019 14:46 UTCCourtenay Smale

In 1982 I was a guest exhibitor, with a selection from the Philip Rashleigh mineral collection, at the Tucson Show, during which time I was superbly hosted by Bob Jones and the late Dick Bideaux. I vividly remember two vastly differing and enjoyable dining experiences. The first was at the formal Charles Restaurant in Tucson, hosted by Charles Key, comprising a 7 course meal finishing with sweetbreads. A few days later we ate at Li'l Abners Steakhouse where the menu was somewhat different. Steaks were available at 16 oz., 24 oz., and 32 oz. Dick asked me if I had ever eaten a 32 oz. steak to which I replied 'no'. He promptly ordered one each for us, which were grilled outside on the mesquite barbeque, the meal complemented with Mexican beans and a large pitcher of Tequila Margarita. This experience showed the ends of the spectrum of dining in Tucson, and I have fond memories of enjoying each in equal measure.

24th Feb 2019 17:49 UTCSusan Robinson

We attended the Tucson Show for a few years as dealers, and then as buyers, since my husband's job was now as a museum curator. Tucson was where we were introduced to spicy Szechuan food, L'il Abner's, where the steaks were fabulous, and Scordato's Italian restaurant, where you could watch the javelinas munch on vegetable scraps just outside the windows. Those were fun times, and the prices on minerals were much lower, so much so, that we literally bought the entire stock of dark orange stalactitic calcites from Carter Co., MT, in a room at the Desert Inn, which was the "hub" of most dealers. Harvey Gordon at the Travelodge (just across the street) had a room crammed with pyromorphites from the Bunker Hill mine, Kellogg, Idaho, and opened up at 1 am so we could buy some. A flat of very good specimens was only $300. and at that time, we wished our bank account was larger so we could have purchased more.

The main show was in the Convention Center, but on a lower level beneath the building, and accessed by a long escalator. Upstairs was the "wholesale" room, and the queue for it before opening would stretch out of the building. When the doors opened, it was a frenzy of looking through stacks of flats and making fast decisions on what to purchase, and then having to lug it all to the car.


We have fond memories of those days.

24th Feb 2019 19:16 UTCBob Harman

Several fond memories of my first few years attending Tucson about 20 years ago.


My first memory is roaming thru the tents and comparing those tent specimens to the examples of recent years. Back then, roaming thru the tents with a careful eye, you could find some real quality/bargains, even by those prices and quality, let alone by today's prices.

I distinctly remember a tent of Brazilian amethyst "cathedrals". Besides the many usual examples, there were several with hi quality calcites and several stunning examples with all manner of unusual amethyst quartz formations. Pricier than the others, but still accessible and real bargains.

Then, from the Madagascar tents were many hi quality celestine geodes. I took home a 25kg example with perfect crystals including a 9.5 cm doubly terminated crystal (previously pictured on this website). That is still the largest doubly terminated Madagascar celestine crystal I have ever seen. Several years later, when the blue barite from Morocco first appeared, there were many in the tents. You could pick out large plates, trim off the lesser areas and be left with undamaged hi quality examples.

Today, it seems, that everything in these tents has been hi graded, with only ordinary examples seen; few if any bargains remain.


My other memory, continuing thru to the current years is that many very very highly collectible specimens including tourmalines, azurites etc etc are readily available in all sizes, qualities and price ranges from many dealers, while my focused examples from the State of Indiana are virtually never seen in quality examples. In all my years at Tucson, only once, have I seen a quality Meshberger Quarry calcite, only twice have I seen truly hi quality May Sand and Stone Quarry Ft. Wayne fluorites, and only a handful of quality Berry Materials Quarry North Vernon calcites have been available. What I prefer to collect, and would be willing to pay for, is just rarely available at the show....... Truly few quality examples exist.


My final thought is that Tucson has grown in both scope and timeframe. What used to be a 2 week show, lasts more than a month now, with some storehouses open all year. Business, business, business; today it is hard to get a good idea of true attendance and sales. There are soooo many venues that, for me, successfully getting around to see all of those of interest has become a real chore. CHEERS......BOB

25th Feb 2019 21:51 UTCAl Thompson

Two things can be equally true. I found reasonably priced stuff, and was happy with my purchases, AND prices on some pieces are just ridiculous. One opinion is not mutually exclusive of the other. Certainly it is possible to find almost anything within almost anyone's budget, but it's just as true to say prices are (generally speaking) insanely high, for specimens that do not deserve such sticker prices. My feeling is that if a high end dealer can make a deal on a few very high end pieces, there is less motivation to price other pieces reasonably. Let's not pretend there are dealers out there whose entire inventory is "overpriced". Obviously these folks have to be good business people, or else they would not succeed, or have the inventory they do. I would just say that mineral collecting is not an inexpensive hobby. Again, of course it is possible to put together a wide ranging collection on a modest budget, but let's not gloss over that many specimen prices are ludicrous. I don't wish to start a back and forth argument, I am just stating my opinion, cheers!

26th Feb 2019 16:34 UTCTony Albini

Al et. al.,


One new trend I saw this year is that some high end dealers were offering inexpensive items. I bought and saw thumbnail specimens at reasonable prices. I had not seen this before and I think that the marketplace is responding to collectors with modest budgets. A friend of mine also remarked at the quality and reasonable prices he saw at some high end dealers. Overall, I believe that collectors still find coming to Tucson a lot of fun.

28th Feb 2019 17:05 UTCKelly Nash Expert

When I'm unable to go to Tucson, I get my mineral fix by getting on Mindat and pointing out problems with the database. It gives the managers something to do when they get home:-)

28th Feb 2019 17:21 UTCPaul Brandes Manager

Like we don't have enough work already, Kelly...... :P

1st Mar 2019 16:10 UTCTony Albini

Kelly, if you come to Tucson next year, let me know. I was lucky to meet Erin Delventhal this year and would like to meet other people from Mindat.

4th Mar 2019 01:04 UTCChristine Iacobuzio-Donahue

I went to Tucson for the first time this year. Spent two days at the Main Show. I took my time, looked at everything, was cautious and didn’t buy on impulse. Essentially there for the hunt. Happy to say that I found many treasures for my collection (27!) all at very reasonable prices. I am relatively new to the hobby and admit I’ve made the newbie mistakes of thinking bigger is better, more expensive means better quality, etc. I cringe to think of how much I spent in the past three years but I didn’t know any better. Guess it’s the cost of learning?

4th Mar 2019 02:27 UTCKevin Conroy Expert

I think you'll find that it's the ones that you didn't buy are the ones that you'll really regret.

4th Mar 2019 18:32 UTCAl Thompson

Kevin Conroy Wrote:

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> I think you'll find that it's the ones that you

> didn't buy are the ones that you'll really regret.



Haha, I wish that were true. I've bought plenty that I regretted later on! Thankfully the ones I buy are generally quite popular, and can recoup costs (and then some, in cases) when I sell it!

4th Mar 2019 20:15 UTCChristine Iacobuzio-Donahue

So far I don't regret anything I didn't buy, certainly some of the ones I did because I later came to find them for 1/10th the price. Ouch. I don't blame the dealers I bought from (I keep receipts and notes on EVERYTHING), they are trying to make a living and I willingly paid. In fact some of the great purchases I made at Tucson this year were from those very same dealers. While I don't know them personally I don't think they are dishonest (if anything kudos to them!). And I am a big supporter of small businesses in general.


How to recoup costs seems impossible to me if not a dealer. Kevin would love to hear tips! Actually now that I see there is a Forum here on Mindat to swap minerals I will likely go that route.

4th Mar 2019 20:15 UTCChristine Iacobuzio-Donahue

Sorry think that was Al, not Kevin....

4th Mar 2019 20:43 UTCKevin Conroy Expert

Yes, it definitely is worth the time to comparison shop. Often at the same show (especially at one of the major shows!) there are dealers with the same minerals with vastly different prices.


As to getting some of your money back, or getting something different for yourself, there are options open to you. As you've found there are online swaps, or you can go to a local swap with the pieces you no longer desire.


If you would rather go the "sales" route you can post them to something like ebay. To protect yourself you can either set the opening bid at the minimun that you would accept for the specimen, or have a low opening bid and place a reserve price (which are pretty much the same things). Be aware that there are fees involved which will effect what you end up with. I've never tried using Craig's list or classified ads but those are also options. Good luck!

4th Mar 2019 20:50 UTCKevin Conroy Expert

Al, I suppose the specimen that haunts me the most was a cerussite "snowflake" (reticulated twin) from Tsumeb that I didn't immediately grab. It was about 15 cm (6 inches) across, and in perfect condition. Yes it was pricey, but after only a few minutes after I left the dealer's room in Denver, I went back and the specimen had been sold! Sadness....

4th Mar 2019 20:55 UTCChristine Iacobuzio-Donahue

That even hurts me....

4th Mar 2019 20:57 UTCBob Harman

From your previous statements about buying at Tucson only to consider reselling to make money back, and KEVIN's response, the discussion of selling a collection or individual midrange specimens from a collection has been previously discussed here on Mindat in several threads.


The answers are complex with varying opinions, but from my few first hand observations and dealing with several of these situations, results generally are not too great. See the other threads for more specifics and options or start another thread about selling unwanted mineral specimens to recoup purchase prices. CHEERS.....BOB

4th Mar 2019 21:01 UTCChristine Iacobuzio-Donahue

Thank you all! Will check out if only to learn more.

4th Mar 2019 23:52 UTCNiels Brouwer

I noticed that Tony Nikischer recently wrote an article on more or less the same topic, you might be interested to read that:

https://www.mindat.org/article.php/2943/How+Not+to+Disperse+a+Collection

5th Mar 2019 15:47 UTCTony Albini

We all remember the specimens that got away. However, if we look at our collections, we will notice that most of the specimens did not get away and are in our collections. As for the comments of selling parts of a collection, Tony Nikischer is spot on. Recouping money is one thing but even you don't recoup some of your money one has to look at the fun of the collection while you possess it. You can't put a dollar value on that. We may spend money on specimens but as I have said before the fun is in the hunt.

5th Mar 2019 16:12 UTCHolger Hartmaier

It was my overall impression that the number of mineral dealers has decreased and there was a higher proportion of gem and finished jewelry dealers at the TGMS as well as the 22nd Street show. Also, at the HTCC, there were entire floors with no dealers, where there were dealers in the past. I went up to the Executive Inn and there were only a few dealers left- the place looked like a mortuary. The show guidebook indicated that there were supposed to be tent dealers in the parking lot, but none existed. I remember there being more mineral dealers in the rooms at the Pueblo Inn and others along the I-10 strip. Now there seems to be a preponderance of rug merchants and other bric-a-brac sellers. Since I only make it to Tucson every 3-5 years, I was wondering if anyone else made these same observations.

5th Mar 2019 22:19 UTCAl Thompson

Apparently 2020 is the last year of the HTCC, so that show is probably dying, at least in its current venue. The 22nd St show was by far and away the most busy show we attended, and as you wrote, there are very few specimen dealers there. From my observations, the younger generation (generally speaking) is more into the "metaphysical" aspect of crystals, not for the same reasons many "hardcore" mineral specimen collectors are. Of course there is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a shift in the types of "mineralia" that is sought. The other aspect of this is that many dealers cater toward those with fat wallets. After a while, I didn't even bother looking at obviously high-end cases, though the specimens are nice, frankly, even these are fairly common, but the prices are not! I know talking about price is a sore subject for many here, but that's my observation. The strictly-mineral places were not nearly as crowded as the crystal hippie / crystal trinket venues (for lack better terms!). A perfect example of this was the Pueblo show, which has a lot of the trinket /jewelry dealers, as well as an entire wing for specimen collectors. It was a shocking contrast between the super busy jewelry side vs the specimen side. Almost nobody walking around the grounds where the specimen dealers were, whereas it was completely jam packed on the other side.

6th Mar 2019 00:25 UTCTony Albini

Holger, there were less dealers at the HTCC. On West Lester Street there is now a group of dealers with a brand new venue with several dealers that has sprung up making this area a new hotbed for minerals. Dealers have been switching venues from HTCC to this site and the Westward Look show in the last two years. However, there were lots of affordable specimens at the HTCC this year. I still saw plenty of specimens of interest.

6th Mar 2019 00:28 UTCChristine Iacobuzio-Donahue

What is HTCC?

6th Mar 2019 00:41 UTCRuss Rizzo Expert

Hi Christine,


HTTC is an acronym for Hotel Tucson City Center aka Inn Suites (old name).

6th Mar 2019 00:45 UTCChristine Iacobuzio-Donahue

Thank you

6th Mar 2019 01:10 UTCHolger Hartmaier

I did check out the new dealers along West Lester, as well as the "New Mineral Show" at The Slaughterhouse and the "Hidden Mineral Show", all with a mineral collector focus. As already noted, regardless of your budget, one could find something affordable at most of the venues. Thanks to Jolyon's live Tucson report during the show I picked up a few cheap specimens that I had missed on my initial pass. Another comment, it was the coolest and wettest Tucson show that I have ever experienced, although there were some sunny warm days where it was nice to just sit back and have a cold beer in the courtyard of the HTCC and observe the crowd.

6th Mar 2019 02:34 UTCFrank K. Mazdab Manager

It's a shame to hear that the HTCC show may be coming to an end. It's a great venue, and indeed on warm sunny days the whole open courtyard buzzes with activity and has an almost festival vibe to it with the BBQ and adjacent bar. Apparently one problematic issue is the new U-Haul dealership that doesn't want to share their parking lot, made even more ridiculous in that apparently the dealership is even closed on the weekends when the HTCC would have the most traffic and the most use for space, and so the expansive parking lot sits empty. The city should eminent domain the parking lot for the two weeks of the show... U-Haul be damned.

6th Mar 2019 07:37 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

I heard THREE contradictory rumors!!!


One is that the HTCC owners want the show out after 2020 because they can make just as much money running it as a normal hotel during show season (without all the disruption/damage) and another is that they want to try to run their own show there from 2021, and finally is that they want to demolish the rear parts of the hotel (the two-storey parts) and leave just the four storey tower for the hotel) - either to rebuild or to sell off the land.

6th Mar 2019 09:31 UTCFrank K. Mazdab Manager

Intriguing set of rumors, but all of them still seem to point to no Arizona Mineral and Fossil Show at the HTCC in 2021. That's too bad. Great venue aside, I also hope all the best dealers aren't too widely dispersed across town.

6th Mar 2019 13:52 UTCDominic Robertson

I've really enjoyed the HTCC show the couple of times I've been there. The layout of the hotel allows many dealers to be present at once. I've also found that some of the dealers tended to be off my radar so it's a good opportunity for me to meet new dealers who are always friendly.

6th Mar 2019 18:38 UTCMichael Sommers

Interesting news about HTCC. While in general most of me hopes it is not true, part of me thinks it has been eclipsed by other locations/venues. Talking with dealers that are not there any longer, I was shocked at the amount they say they had to pay to be there. Expenses like that translate to what we all pay for specimens. While I can't claim any special knowledge of overall dealer charges at various locations, I do know that 22nd street is significantly less than HTCC even when considering the apples-vs-oranges differences b/w the two. And the access this year at HTCC was terrible, with the newest American Great Lake forming in the driveway/parking lot in front of the place during the first week. I had to park at one of the satellite lots and walk in, and short of Moses showing up (which he didn't) I had to walk all the way around to FMI and then wait in line to walk across a speed bump that was only 2 inches under water.


Since I've been going to the Tucson show ('98) there have been at least 3 hotel venues that have closed down, not including Holidome that retains that name but is no longer in the actual hotel. Not to mention several other smaller locations that no longer exist. But the trend of "hard locations" opening up recently at the Oracle cluster that are there year-round and then the various new shows mentioned above seem to indicate the environment is flexible and adaptive, and if HTCC closes down I'm sure something will eagerly replace it, hopefully with that new and invigorated vibe.

7th Mar 2019 15:55 UTCTony Albini

Michael,


Venues have changed across the country. Years ago, the largest show in New England was held in downtown Springfield, MA. Due to parking and other issues, it was moved to the Eastern States Exposition fairgrounds in West Springfield, MA where it is held now for many years. Other, smaller shows in the New England area have also changed locations. A few years ago, there have been changes at the Denver, CO show. So as with the HTCC, there may be more changes or we see an invigoration of the venue. Marketing does come up with new solutions.

7th Mar 2019 18:58 UTCFrank K. Mazdab Manager

true, but nothing beats finding that sunny open space in the courtyard at the HTCC, plopping down in the luxurious grass (a bit of a novelty for Tucson, as most landscaping around the city is dirt and cactus), and then hand-lensing your newest purchases for hidden crystals, before deciding which wing of the hotel will be the next to explore.

8th Mar 2019 00:16 UTCTony Albini

Frank, there is a street in Tucson with oak trees and other vegetation! I also hope the HTCC show continues. A good place to meet other collectors.

11th Mar 2019 15:47 UTCTony Albini

Several people have noted specimens that were modestly priced this year. I spent $110.00 for 4 thumbnail and one miniature-sized specimens. There were many bargains this year and I expect the same next year. For those of us who do not come to Tucson, check out your local shows. I think this is a trend everywhere. Jolyon noted good 5 euro specimens at the Bologna show.

12th Mar 2019 02:40 UTCSteve Hardinger Expert

There has been much speculation concerning the fate of the HTCC show. Here is what Regina Aumente (Assistant Show Manager) and Laura Delano (show owner) have asked me to pass on to the group: "Thank you for coming to us to get the straight story. The 2020 Arizona Mineral & Fossil Show will be the last at Hotel Tucson City Center.

We are currently ironing out details on a contract with the Hilton El Conquistador, that is north on Oracle Road in Oro Valley. Laura has spent many hours working with them on their 30-page contract and is close to signing. The hotel is just a few miles north of Westward Look, and is a beautiful resort. We will have a load of ballroom space, beautiful rooms and casitas, and plenty of parking. We will make a formal announcement when the contract is signed."

12th Mar 2019 15:23 UTCTony Albini

Steve, thanks for passing on this information to everyone.

28th Apr 2019 19:44 UTCvictor rzonca

As some of you know, the 2020 HTCC / Arizona Mineral and Fossil Show will spend it's last year at the present location.The contracts have been signed and we are moving 13 miles North of the Tucson Convention Center, to the El Conquistador Hotel, in 2021. Conditions at the present location were going down hill, and have been so for a while, as you know if you've attended. A great many loyal dealers find value in the change and are moving with the show. Hope to see you all at our new venue in 2021. The Arizona Mineral and fossil Show is not ending and this is not a rumor. We think this move will improve the show for dealers and customers alike. As Alexander Graham Bell said, "When one door closes, another door opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for us.”

29th Apr 2019 02:22 UTCTony Albini

Victor, thank you for the update.
 
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